plenty of world class winemakers, pundits, restauranteurs, commonsewers and drinkers smoke

does it make a difference in what you like if you smoke?

big, heavy

if you are a non-smoker what would you do if you were drinking a great bottle at someone's house and they unexpectedly lit up

delicate, subtle

what about cities where you can smoke in restaurants?

do you go to smoking eateries and sit in the non-smoking section? or only to 100% non-smoke

i don't smoke cigarettes and think they stink

but, i will smoke a cuban if it smells good
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Originally posted by sydthesquid:
Life's too short to get all nuts about someone smoking somewhere.


As long as that "somewhere" is somewhere away from me, I could care less.

My dad has smoked a pipe for years. He can't tell the difference between a glass of grape juice and a glass of wine. Yes it makes a difference.
Smoking while drinking wine - of course it effects it.

I used to smoke some (still enjoy cigars), but if I had a cigarette at 1:00 in the afternoon, it did not effect my wine 5 hours later. I never ever smoked anything while drinking wine. A candy mint 30 minutes before you drink wine will effect your palate more than a cigarette will IMO. Of course a mint won't kill you Razz

I do not get the port/cigar thing. A cigarette isn't good, but a cigar just destroys wine. I never understood the deal there. Especially when I hear about someone drinking a classic 77 Vintage Port with a stogie! Eek My god, how do you even taste the beauty of the wine, as it was intended?

Suckling did that and posted it a few moths back. He writes that they had a 77 Fonseca and cigars....and he rated the wine 100 points off of this tasting!!! Confused Personally, I think he was drunk.

I do enjoy a cigar with a cognac or brandy (not a scotch guy)
Absolutely it affects your palate. It's like trying to watch a sunset through a set of fogged glasses. There's no way you're going to capture the true beauty of the moment.

I can see no tangible way hot smoke being pounded on your tongue every thirty seconds can be good for anything besides getting a fix.
I quit smoking cigarettes a few months ago after smoking for more than 20 years and IMO smoking cigarettes does NOT alter or affect the palate when tasting wine. Many wine journalists, winemakers and chateau owners smoke and I'm sure many will agree.

Cigar smoking is a completely different story. I can barely even taste a red or white wine after or during smoking a cigar. Port may be an exception, but I prefer a cognac or scotch with a good cigar.
I smoked a pack+/day for about 10 years. About 4 days after I quit, I couldn't believe at how much more intense everything smelled - flowers, bakeries, everything.

Any smoker can tell you that alcohol and cigarettes seem to go together (I'll still have an occasional smoke if I'm drinking at a bar), but properly enjoying wine is tough when your nose (and tastebuds) are working at 50%.
Smoking has a detrimental effect on the gustatory and olfactory neurons. Since wine appreciation relies so much on these senses, the total experience can’t be as enjoyable for smokers. Because of this, I believe that wine critics and reviewers should make their smoking habits known to their readers. It’s quite conceivable that a nonsmoking critic would rate a wine higher than a critic that smokes. WS critics, what are your smoking habits?

Smoking is an absolutely disgusting habit. I used to think that cigars were OK but I even find them to be offensive now. California has it right in that they do not allow smoking in restaurants. The state that I reside in, Ohio, is having the restaurant smoking issue on the ballot this upcoming fall. Hopefully, it will be banned. However, Ohio is in close proximity to Kentucky which is very reliant on the tobacco industry. The tobacco lobby is quite strong in Ohio.
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Originally posted by Alta Skier:
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Originally posted by sydthesquid:
Life's too short to get all nuts about someone smoking somewhere.

Life is too short for the person that is smoking. They don't have to shorten my life as well by smoking near me.


Gimmee a break.

Everyone thinks that if they ever smell smoke, they are gonna die earlier.

Horsehockey.
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Originally posted by sydthesquid:
Gimmee a break.

Everyone thinks that if they ever smell smoke, they are gonna die earlier.

Horsehockey.

If you smoke near me I will give you a break - right in the chops. Every time a person breathes in second-hand smoke, he/she consumes over 100 harmful chemical agents - carcinogens and toxins.
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Originally posted by Alta Skier:
If you smoke near me I will give you a break - right in the chops.


I'll drink to that. I can't count the number of times I've had confrontations with smokers. The worst of which was when a smoker decided to put his cigarette out on my chest after I confronted him. I guarantee you that he wasn't able to smoke another cigarette for weeks after that.

Why is it that the majority of smokers hang their cigarette out their window while driving? They can't even stand their own smoke, why should they try to force us to.
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If you smoke near me I will give you a break - right in the chops. Every time a person breathes in second-hand smoke, he/she consumes over 100 harmful chemical agents - carcinogens and toxins.


So does breathing in your lady's hairspray and nail polish remover. I hope you go easy on her.
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Originally posted by Cal-Duck:
Hillarious! Smoking is bad for my health... so I confront smokers and beat them up. LMAO! Good thinking.


I never said anything about health. Cigarette smoke is about the most disgusting smelling thing on this planet. If they can blow smoke in my face, I guess I can pee on their leg. They don't like that much more than I like smoke.

Hey CalDuck, let me know the next time someone puts a cigarette out on your chest. Sometimes it takes a good beating to get some sense into them.
i just had to paste this in:

speakeasyforum.com > Science, Journalism, and Public Policy > Smokers breath worst than car exhaust

John L Posted Sat 8 05 2006 12:46 AM

Friday, August 4, 2006

"Smog technician not just blowing smoke: A smoker, he compares his breath to a car's emissions. Which is dirtier?"

By COURTNEY PERKES The Orange County Register

"COSTA MESA – Smog technician Christopher Delo pulls a long, coiled probe out of the exhaust pipe of a late-model Volvo. The car passed smog certification, so it's time for his smoke break.

Delo lights a Marlboro, still holding the pollution-measuring nozzle. He takes a drag and puffs directly into the end of the probe to "smog" himself.

Flashing across the computer screen at Newport Smog are readings for air-polluting molecules from partially burned fuel, including hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide. The 1997 Volvo measured 50 parts per million of hydrocarbon emissions. Delo's breath reads 351.

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Bruce Posted Sat August 05 2006 09:46 AM

I would say the smoking researcher stands a better chance of survival than the non-smoker in the air of California.

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Gabz Posted Sat August 05 2006 12:59 PM

Good grief...........it is unreal how these people just lie with
impunity.

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Originally posted by sydthesquid:
Wow. What awesome manly-men we have here.


This thread kinda reminds me of Jerry Seinfeld saying "I feel tough in this crowd" while standing outside during intermission at a Poliacci (the Tragic Clown) performance. Big Grin
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Originally posted by louzarius:


If they can blow smoke in my face, I guess I can pee on their leg.



You will get arrested for exposing yourself in public, it is a sex crime and your a sex offender. How do you like them nutcakes.


I smoke and will smoke forever. My smoke bother you and you complain? I suggest you move away from me, 'cause I have no patience for clowns who whine about me smoking and I can tell you my fist is more damaging to your health than my smoke.
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Originally posted by Alta Skier:
quote:
Originally posted by sydthesquid:
Gimmee a break.

Everyone thinks that if they ever smell smoke, they are gonna die earlier.

Horsehockey.

If you smoke near me I will give you a break - right in the chops. Every time a person breathes in second-hand smoke, he/she consumes over 100 harmful chemical agents - carcinogens and toxins.
I used to leave the room to fart. Not anymore because of people like you.

Enjoy.
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Originally posted by Alta Skier:
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Originally posted by Gigond Ass:
Pack a lunch. Or bring friends.

Never mind. You can probably only meet the first piece of advice.

And since you're such an a$$ I'm sure you can meet the 2nd.
Don't need them. I can handle my action. LOL.
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Originally posted by Opus Two:
My smoke bother you and you complain? I suggest you move away from me, 'cause I have no patience for clowns who whine about me smoking and I can tell you my fist is more damaging to your health than my smoke.


This is the problem I have found with probably 98% of smokers. No consideration for anyone other than themselves, obstinate to no end, and the smoke has obviously gone to their brain.

If you don't want me spitting on you, then "I suggest you move away from me, 'cause I have no patience for clowns who whine about me" spitting on them.

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