@napacat posted:Mostly great replies (except for Gman). Thanks all. CSM truly sorry for your friend. I just cannot fathom making a person take a vaccine when they have already had COVID. That just goes against all prior scientific certainty.
I remember the many knuckleheads who claimed COVID-19 was just like the flu.
So do people who’ve gotten the flu never need to bother getting a flu shot?
Yet again you prove to all of us you are dumber than you look.
@napacat posted:I just cannot fathom making a person take a vaccine when they have already had COVID. That just goes against all prior scientific certainty.
bman posted:
No, it doesn't. The vaccine increases the immunity in those with prior infections. Two much-beloved long time posters here not only had Covid but continue to suffer from long Covid. One is a doctor who got it early and almost died. Twice. Both got the vaccine, twice, and one has received a third booster shot. The more immunity, the better!
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Exactly, bman. I know several people (family and friends) who had COVID. With some, their antibody titre was fairly low, suggesting they had a mild infection. Thus, vaccination was more than warranted. Others have had COVID but don't know it. Again, vaccination warranted. And, for many even with a severe case, the antibody levels decline more than in those who have had two jabs, and are even lower yet compared to those who have had a third jab/booster. Thus, there is SO much variation in those that have had COVID that it is nonsense to lump them all together as some here are doing.
@Insight posted:I remember the many knuckleheads who claimed COVID-19 was just like the flu.
So do people who’ve gotten the flu never need to bother getting a flu shot?
Yet again you prove to all of us you are dumber than you look.
Another class act. You make no distinction from a young, healthy person with no co-morbidities whose already had COVID do you? In this instance and many others the vaccine is not needed, especially considering a potential adverse reaction (albeit very low). Way to jump in with a thoughtless comment….and allowing this feckless admin just mandate a vaccine across the board.
@napacat posted:CSM truly sorry for your friend.
Thanks napacat. Truly awful situation. Can’t even begin to fathom what his wife and kids are going through.
@napacat posted:Another class act. You make no distinction from a young, healthy person with no co-morbidities whose already had COVID do you? In this instance and many others the vaccine is not needed, especially considering a potential adverse reaction (albeit very low). Way to jump in with a thoughtless comment….and allowing this feckless admin just mandate a vaccine across the board.
"I just cannot fathom making a person take a vaccine when they have already had COVID. That just goes against all prior scientific certainty."
This was your statement; it's simply not true. As always, your transparent technique, is to then try to add in things you didn't say at first. This is why no one should bother with you.
And even this statement is wrong, "In this instance and many others the vaccine is not needed, especially considering a potential adverse reaction (albeit very low)."
You are making these claims. You are the one that needs to back them up with citations.
@The Old Man posted:"I just cannot fathom making a person take a vaccine when they have already had COVID. That just goes against all prior scientific certainty."
This was your statement; it's simply not true. As always, your transparent technique, is to then try to add in things you didn't say at first. This is why no one should bother with you.
And even this statement is wrong, "In this instance and many others the vaccine is not needed, especially considering a potential adverse reaction (albeit very low)."
You are making these claims. You are the one that needs to back them up with citations.
lol, wait till he copy pastes "my own research" from various youtube links.
not that copycat there cares
but it's obvious as more research start coming out, the anti vax stance is just nothing but self serving for those looking to make a quick buck off of the fears of others.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/heal...APlAXV?ocid=msedgntp
Should i even post the study where you're 6x more likely to get heart issues from covid than you are from the covid vaccine?
@irwin posted:Dr. T: What are your thoughts about Moderna boosters. It seems logical to me to wait until the boosters are approved, but, on the other hand, that seems inevitable. I got my 2nd of the two shots in mid-March. No real significant co-morbidities except for having a hyperactive fork and being 68 yrs. old.
Moderna has a higher dose of spike protein that might account for slightly higher reaction rates than Pfizer. I prefer Pfizer simply for that. But the vaccine essentials very similar In any event , I would get a mRNA booster as soon as you can at the closest facility offering either. The purpose of the booster is to reinvigorate the memory B cells that make antibody against the spike protein. Natural immunity makes lesser degree antibodies against a variety of different viral antigens which may account for lesser more variable response by the previously infected. Boosters are just that, inciting extra antibodies when you might need them
Thanks very much. Will do.
The first oral antiviral drug for Covid appears poised for FDA emergency approval. Sounds a like like Tamiflu: you take it right after you have symptoms and it drops the risk of a serious Covid infection by about 50%.
I'm glad to hear that several effective treatments are now becoming available: Monoclonal antibody therapy, Regeneron, this new Antiviral drug.
I suppose some folks will stick with hydroxychloroquine and horse dewormers. Best of luck with that.
@Rothko posted:The first oral antiviral drug for Covid appears poised for FDA emergency approval. Sounds a like like Tamiflu: you take it right after you have symptoms and it drops the risk of a serious Covid infection by about 50%.
I'm glad to hear that several effective treatments are now becoming available: Monoclonal antibody therapy, Regeneron, this new Antiviral drug.
I suppose some folks will stick with hydroxychloroquine and horse dewormers. Best of luck with that.
Don’t forget disinfectant in the lungs and UV lights up the ass. Some folks are creative.
The FDA has recommended the Moderna booster, at 1/2 strength. Looks like Moderna booster shots are going to be available soon.
US to reopen land border as of 11/8 and is going to recognize those of us with the Arnold Pharma AZ/Moderna mix as vaccinated.
Getting my Moderna booster tomorrow
"The US Food and Drug Administration advisory committee recommended Friday that all adults who received the single-dose J&J shot should get a second vaccine at least two months after their first dose."
Get going bill.
@The Old Man posted:"The US Food and Drug Administration advisory committee recommended Friday that all adults who received the single-dose J&J shot should get a second vaccine at least two months after their first dose."
Get going bill.
Planning to.
@jcocktosten posted:Getting my Moderna booster tomorrow
Me too.
meanwhile, just over 85% of Marylanders have had at least one shot. Slightly over 60% of all Marylanders have been fully vaccinated.
My efforts to get the booster were a failure. Will try again this week. Scr** Publix
@jcocktosten posted:Getting my Moderna booster tomorrow
Got mine at the end of August. I guess, technically, it was a "third shot" rather than a booster. I don't quite understand the difference, but Mrs. H and I feel better having being jabbed again.
@jcocktosten posted:My efforts to get the booster were a failure. Will try again this week. Scr** Publix
Mine too. Set up the appointment. Got multiple texts and emails confirming. Then two hrs before, a phone call telling me the pharmacy wasn’t doing boosters yet. Crap
Weird. Everything is easily available here at CVS in Walgreens. Appointments can be made on their sites and they usually have them within 1 to 2 days.
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TOKYO (AP) — Almost overnight, Japan has become a stunning, and somewhat mysterious, coronavirus success story.
Daily new COVID-19 cases have plummeted from a mid-August peak of nearly 6,000 in Tokyo, with caseloads in the densely populated capital now routinely below 100, an 11-month low.
The bars are packed, the trains are crowded, and the mood is celebratory, despite a general bafflement over what, exactly, is behind the sharp drop.
Japan, unlike other places in Europe and Asia, has never had anything close to a lockdown, just a series of relatively toothless states of emergency.
Some possible factors in Japan's success include a belated but remarkably rapid vaccination campaign, an emptying out of many nightlife areas as fears spread during the recent surge in cases, a widespread practice, well before the pandemic, of wearing masks and bad weather in late August that kept people home.
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Nearly 70 percent of the population is fully vaccinated."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...APDWTd?ocid=msedgntp
I too, dream for the return to normalcy if only folks werent so self serving assholes and do simple things like get a free effective vaccine and wear a 10 cent mask.
But no, 30k monoclonal treatments with hospital stays mixed in with clogging up ICU and intubation is definitely the way to go
@The Old Man posted:Weird. Everything is easily available here at CVS in Walgreens. Appointments can be made on their sites and they usually have them within 1 to 2 days.
Same here (NYS). Both PFE and MRNA have been available as boosters/3rd shots since mid-August.
Maryland now up to 85% vaccinated. But in Montgomery County (home of Purple Haze and Gentleman Farmer, among others), they are up to 99%. NIH is located in Montgomery County. It's a Washington DC suburb.
@irwin posted:Maryland now up to 85% vaccinated. But in Montgomery County (home of Purple Haze and Gentleman Farmer, among others), they are up to 99%. NIH is located in Montgomery County. It's a Washington DC suburb.
As does my dad - who does work with the NIH
Got my Pfizer booster last night from a local grocery store pharmacy. No questions asked.
More people are apparently getting boosters now than first shots. The Moderna booster is on the cusp of approval, and there will probably be a rush for those boosters.
In the meantime, the Covid virus just keeps plugging along. There's a new mutation on the Delta variant making the rounds in the UK, which has seen increases once again in their Covid infections.
Even worse
"Today, Idiot Governor DeSantis announced that he’s calling a special session to pass a ban on vaccine mandates put in place by private employers.
And that begs the question — with everything going on in our state, why the hell is he calling a special session on this?
I think I know the answer. Because he’s running for President as Donald Trump Jr. Junior.
Instead of helping Florida workers and families, DeSantis is going to make it harder for private businesses to keep their employees and customers safe. "
@flwino posted:Even worse
"Today, Idiot Governor DeSantis announced that he’s calling a special session to pass a ban on vaccine mandates put in place by private employers.
And that begs the question — with everything going on in our state, why the hell is he calling a special session on this?
I think I know the answer. Because he’s running for President as Donald Trump Jr. Junior.
Instead of helping Florida workers and families, DeSantis is going to make it harder for private businesses to keep their employees and customers safe. "
You sir are not the brightest. DeSantis is one of the best governors in the US.
We t@napacat posted:. DeSantis is one of the best governors in the US.
You’ve piqued my curiosity, napacat: what criteria do you use to declare him “one of the best governors”?
My wife and I got Moderna boosters this afternoon, 7 months after getting the JJ. Walked into a local grocery/pharmacy chain with only a short wait of about 10 minutes.
@billhike posted:My wife and I got Moderna boosters this afternoon, 7 months after getting the JJ. Walked into a local grocery/pharmacy chain with only a short wait of about 10 minutes.
Perfect timing as I have a concert at House of Blues two weeks from tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how people follow the regulations for this one, which includes wearing a mask when not eating or drinking.
@seaquam posted:You’ve piqued my curiosity, napacat: what criteria do you use to declare him “one of the best governors”?
Good evening Seaquam,
For starters the man does stand up for the constitution, allow for the freedoms America is built on. Will defend our borders(like the law says we need to do) and has handled the COVID crisis quite well…balancing opening the state and allowing people to have a semi-normal life.
He took unpopular steps and succeeded! A stark contrast to every other Democratic governor. Good on him! FL sucks in general but our leadership at the state level is good.
Got my moderna booster yesterday at public vaccination event. Took an hour as it was quite crowded- 50 or so people before and behind. All getting boosters according to staff with the exception of 1 person who I overheard was getting a first dose
We have appointments at a local pharmacy for Saturday. Many appointments available, but I have a very busy week at work upcoming.
I got a Moderna booster shot. Had a sore arm for a few days, and felt fatigued for one day after.
I've been vaxxed to the max. 2 and a 1/2 weeks ago Pfizer booster. Last week flu shot. Wednesday, pneumonia in one arm, shingles in the other. If you haven't had the shingle shot, there's a shot that really hurts going in. Of course it requires a second shot a few months later!
@napacat posted:Good evening Seaquam,
For starters the man does stand up for the constitution, allow for the freedoms America is built on. Will defend our borders(like the law says we need to do) and has handled the COVID crisis quite well…balancing opening the state and allowing people to have a semi-normal life.
He took unpopular steps and succeeded! A stark contrast to every other Democratic governor. Good on him! FL sucks in general but our leadership at the state level is good.
Which border is DeSantis defending? Georgia or Alabama?
