I am sick of this shit.
Now the President and a friend who sells pillows are touting "oleandrin" as the next Covid-19 cure. The pillow guy is on the board of directors of some company that sells the stuff.
I wonder if it mixes well with chloroxyquin (or however that is spelled).
@irwin posted:Now the President and a friend who sells pillows are touting "oleandrin" as the next Covid-19 cure. The pillow guy is on the board of directors of some company that sells the stuff.
I wonder if it mixes well with chloroxyquin (or however that is spelled).
Anderson Cooper just took him apart an hour or so ago. All the guy could do was interrupt and talk over Cooper as he had no answer for his questions about how he's meeting Trump to push something with zero medical approval or evidence that it works.
I saw in the newspaper that this clown says the 1st amendment gives him the right to promote his phony product and to say that it cures Covid-19. Well, actually, the first amendment doesn't say that. One is not permitted to falsely advertise a product as a cure for a disease. We call that "fraud".
Why don't they just call it "snake oil" and be done with it?
It's interesting that the number of reported cases down here in Florida are dropping off. Just in time for schools to reopen.
@bman posted:Anderson Cooper just took him apart an hour or so ago. All the guy could do was interrupt and talk over Cooper as he had no answer for his questions about how he's meeting Trump to push something with zero medical approval or evidence that it works.
Just watched that clip. Wow.
@Rothko posted:It's interesting that the number of reported cases down here in Florida are dropping off. Just in time for schools to reopen.
Well that should help to bring it back up.
So China started general vaccinations a few weeks ago: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...-BB18j82t?li=BBnb7Kz
Hmm, a Chinese vaccine and a Russian vaccine. How to choose?
south korea just had a cluster from star bucks.
all of the patrons sitting inside caught cv19 due to a symptomatic individual sitting under the AC duct, talking and spreading it to everyone.
All of the employees wearing masks though, tested negative.
@irwin posted:Now the President and a friend who sells pillows are touting "oleandrin" as the next Covid-19 cure. The pillow guy is on the board of directors of some company that sells the stuff.
I wonder if it mixes well with chloroxyquin (or however that is spelled).
Gotta love this country! The Canadians are trying to see if Cannabis can help and Americans try and peddle some unproven foreign substance. Needless to say, I'm gonna go with Canada on this one - as even if it doesn't work, I won't have any anxiety over it
@g-man posted:south korea just had a cluster from star bucks.
all of the patrons sitting inside caught cv19 due to a symptomatic individual sitting under the AC duct, talking and spreading it to everyone.
All of the employees wearing masks though, tested negative.
Would be interesting to get TPE's take on this story...
I think we can pretty much assume that the Trump administration is going to strong-arm the FDA to approve a vaccine prior to the election. I also think that many Americans are not going to want to take such a vaccine, for various reasons. It may be interesting to see a Covid vaccine come on the market and there be a general lack of demand because no one wants to be a guinea pig.
You either get it, or you don't.
@Rothko posted:You either get it, or you don't.
@The Old Man posted:
You have to have tasted Beverly soda to understand.
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Interesting report today that the Sturgis bike festival in South Dakota was indeed a "superspreader" event and has resulted in over 250,000 Covid cases across the country.
@Rothko posted:Interesting report today that the Sturgis bike festival in South Dakota was indeed a "superspreader" event and has resulted in over 250,000 Covid cases across the country.
As Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C would say, "Surprise! Surprise!"
Looks like there's a speed bump in the vaccine trials - the Oxford trial is on hold as a result of a patient having a possible severe side effect.
It adds a wrinkle to the Trump Administration's plans to have a roll-out of a vaccine by Election Day.
Reading an article on CNN's website about the possibility of Covid and flu this fall/winter:
"In the Southern Hemisphere, which is just ending its winter months and flu season, several countries have reported astonishingly low flu numbers as people wear masks and social distance.
In Australia, for example, the number of lab-confirmed flu cases plummeted from 61,000 in August 2019 to 107 cases this August."
If we would all just wear masks, social distance, and get our flu shots, I don't think the flu will stand a chance this winter. If we don't, we are in for a terrible double-whammy.
Really great opinion piece about the moral failure of Bob Woodward with a nod to the wonderful Mike Royko:
Mike Royko’s lasting lesson — and Bob Woodward’s repugnant decision
"As the legendary Sun-Times columnist told us nearly 40 years ago, a journalist has to be a human being first. Bob Woodward, in failing to reveal until now Donald Trump’s true attitude toward COVID-19, has failed that test."
Another Covid Rally last night for 45, this time inside. His cult continues to not wear masks. They continue to make excuses for him covering up the severity back in Feb. What kind of world are we living in?
@patespo1 posted:Another Covid Rally last night for 45, this time inside. His cult continues to not wear masks. They continue to make excuses for him covering up the severity back in Feb. What kind of world are we living in?
One that will restore some degree of sanity after November 3.....
@patespo1 posted:Another Covid Rally last night for 45, this time inside. His cult continues to not wear masks. They continue to make excuses for him covering up the severity back in Feb. What kind of world are we living in?
The participants knowingly and willfully go to the Rally, assuming the risks that come with it. I wouldn't care much if the people who went to the Rally come down with Covid. It's when they go back to their homes and communities and spread it to innocent people - that's the problem.
If someone wants to use a tanning bed, knowing that it increases their risks of melanoma, that's their decision. But if that person using the tanning bed could walk around afterwards and infect innocent people, in addition to themselves, with melanoma, we'd ban tanning beds really quick, I hope.
200,000 dead Americans from Covid. A terrible tragedy, and I'm afraid it's going to get worse again before it gets better.
India looks poised to become the #1 country for Covid cases in the next month or two. Their cases are increasing at a rate almost double to ours.
But I'm sure that there are plenty of American idiots that will try to keep us at #1.
@Rothko posted:India looks poised to become the #1 country for Covid cases in the next month or two. Their cases are increasing at a rate almost double to ours.
But I'm sure that there are plenty of American idiots that will try to keep us at #1.
Well there are maybe four times as many Indians as Americans. And almost none have decent health care. And most live in small apartments or houses with extended families. And and and.....
Yet their deaths are considerably lower than ours:
US: 6.8 million cases and 200,000 dead
India: 5.5 million cases and 89,000 dead
@Rothko posted:Yet their deaths are considerably lower than ours:
US: 6.8 million cases and 200,000 dead
India: 5.5 million cases and 89,000 dead
I bet their deaths are much higher. There seem to be many ways of counting. We lived there for six years and while much worked well, often much better than expected, that was rarely true in health care. Especially for those in slums and villages, which is most Indians.
Yes, I could certainly envision that both their infections and death counts are higher than reported. I always wondered what would happen when the virus took off in the third world countries where you have lots of people packed together, often in slum areas, without access to testing or healthcare or even facilities for self-isolating and quarantining.
Do I have this right that Trump, who lied and said anyone who wants a test can get a test 7 months ago, and has been downplaying the necessity of testing, is now announcing 150 million rapid tests and wants some kind of credit?
@The Old Man posted:Do I have this right that Trump, who lied and said anyone who wants a test can get a test 7 months ago, and has been downplaying the necessity of testing, is now announcing 150 million rapid tests and wants some kind of credit?
Not really. Joe said he would do it on day 1. Now the jerk it trying to one-up Joe. Won't work
"Like a miracle one day it will just go away."
Irony.
Fox News isn't even covering it.
Wow. It has happened. The great virus denying, and mask denying, boob denying boob has the Coronavirus.