Coronavirus 2019

@irwin posted:

So explain this:  8 members of the NY Yankee organization have tested positive. All of them had the JNJ shot.  See, https://sports.yahoo.com/yanke...-week-205224275.html

1) Was the vaccine batch adulterated? 2) Did they not really get the vaccine? 3) What is the explanation for this?

Even after vaccination, your body has to build the appropriate defense cells to attack the virus in your system.

If you were doing something like ... going on a heavy binging streak, drugs, lack of sleep and your immune system is weakened, your body might not produce enough defense cells to attack the virus infection leading you to get infected.

I'd imagine highly paid sports individuals are probably the kind that don't particularly care as much in terms of staying away from places where they might have a high chance of catching covid.

Vaccinated.  Will continue to wear mask

@irwin posted:

So explain this:  8 members of the NY Yankee organization have tested positive. All of them had the JNJ shot.  See, https://sports.yahoo.com/yanke...-week-205224275.html

1) Was the vaccine batch adulterated? 2) Did they not really get the vaccine? 3) What is the explanation for this?

I think the only logical conclusion is that even the Coronavirus hates the Yankees.

@jcocktosten posted:

Vaccinated.  Will continue to wear mask

Smart. Why not be as safe as possible?

@csm posted:

I think the only logical conclusion is that even the Coronavirus hates the Yankees.

Makes sense!

@jcocktosten posted:

Vaccinated.  Will continue to wear mask

Plus 1   and my honey make it Plus 2

@bman posted:

Smart. Why not be as safe as possible?

As we know masks are mostly worn to protect others. I don't wear a mask when around other vaccinated people.

Then there's this from Yahoo: "This week's taping of Real Time With Bill Maher has been canceled after its eponymous host tested positive for COVID-19. Bill Maher, who is fully vaccinated and currently asymptomatic, tested positive during weekly staff testing, according to an announcement from the HBO talk show. Maher 'feels fine,' the show said, and no other staff or crew members have tested positive at this time."

Interesting.  Wonder which shot he got and the time between full coverage and infection.

@csm posted:

Interesting.  Wonder which shot he got and the time between full coverage and infection.

Yes there's no information, yet, on what vaccine he had.

I was just listening to the radio and the doctor who was talking said that the vaccines are about 97% effective against symptomatic Covid and about 86% effective against asymptomatic Covid.  If correct, there are a lot of people who are vaccinated and can get asymptomatic Covid.  I don't know what the transmission rate is amongst such vaccinated folks.

But it's another reason to get the shot.  If you are unvaccinated and hanging out with a group of vaccinated people, there is still a chance that one of the vaccinated people might actually have Covid.  And might be able to pass it along to you, an unvaccinated (and thus easily infectible) person.  The risks to the other vaccinated people is very very low.

@Rothko posted:

I was just listening to the radio and the doctor who was talking said that the vaccines are about 97% effective against symptomatic Covid and about 86% effective against asymptomatic Covid.  If correct, there are a lot of people who are vaccinated and can get asymptomatic Covid.  I don't know what the transmission rate is amongst such vaccinated folks.

But it's another reason to get the shot.  If you are unvaccinated and hanging out with a group of vaccinated people, there is still a chance that one of the vaccinated people might actually have Covid.  And might be able to pass it along to you, an unvaccinated (and thus easily infectible) person.  The risks to the other vaccinated people is very very low.

i'd be curious to read what doctor said that, as if he knew there's a difference between teh covid strains?  It sounds very scientifically awkward to make such distinction.

Taking our 13 year old son to get the Pfizer this week.  Only our 10 year old won't have it in our household. 

This new mask policy sucks, stupid etc.  The anti-maskers, anti-vax folks must be happy.  Only 38% of folks totally vaccinated

Travel to Florida...... We're supposed to visit on Father's Day weekend.  About 83% of Marylanders 65 and over have had at least one shot.  Slightly over 2/3 of all adult Marylanders have had at least one shot.  We heard that in Florida, next to no one wears a mask, vaccination rates are low, and people are oblivious to social distancing.  Not crazy about this upcoming trip.

Stay outside!   Will be better

I don't care about the unvaccinated anymore and I don't worry being around them. I know no vaccine is 100% but I feel confident to go anywhere from now on. Those that choose to not get it will reap the deaths and sickness they deserve and the rest of us will go on with our lives.

@irwin posted:

Travel to Florida...... We're supposed to visit on Father's Day weekend.  About 83% of Marylanders 65 and over have had at least one shot.  Slightly over 2/3 of all adult Marylanders have had at least one shot.  We heard that in Florida, next to no one wears a mask, vaccination rates are low, and people are oblivious to social distancing.  Not crazy about this upcoming trip.

I just got back from Clearwater Beach Florida and I can say without a single doubt in my mind that little to none are wearing masks in Florida.  Little to no social distancing.  For all intents and purposes the pandemic is over in Florida.

@wineismylife posted:

I just got back from Clearwater Beach Florida and I can say without a single doubt in my mind that little to none are wearing masks in Florida.  Little to no social distancing.  For all intents and purposes the pandemic is over in Florida.

Depends where in Florida to some extent - although I doubt anywhere is great

So is Covid over?   It seems like anyone 12 years or older can get the vaccine at the drop of a hat (I feel terrible for other countries who are where we were at in December/January re: access to vaccines). 

The numbers are going down and are expected to continue to decline.

@Rothko posted:

So is Covid over?   It seems like anyone 12 years or older can get the vaccine at the drop of a hat (I feel terrible for other countries who are where we were at in December/January re: access to vaccines).

The numbers are going down and are expected to continue to decline.

If only 50% have a first shot it ain't over. And if a third refuse to take any shots it ain't gonna be over any time soon.

Is it for all intents and purposes over here in the U.S.?  Yep, it's a done pandemic.  Stick a fork in it.

Is it really over here in the U.S.?  Not by a long shot.

What is wrong with you people?  If X percent have contracted Covid, they do not need the vaccine.  The elderly and people with co-morbidity should get vaccinated. People who have previously had Covid and the young do not need it.  You will still arrive at herd immunity.  You would arrive at herd immunity without a vaccine eventually.  The mortality rate for Covid is less than 2%.  And that is for everyone.  Mortality rate for healthy people is way less.  We have $34M positive cases in the U.S.  Around 10% of the population...and we upended everything and have wasted a tremendous amount of $.  Just a tragedy.  Fuaci's staff is only 60% vaccinated along with the same percentage or so for the CDC staff. Not everyone needs it. 

Who turned over the rock and freed the maggot? That’s one of his more idiotic posts - which is really saying something.

Since the 9/11 attacks only had a mortality rate of .000009, I guess we really overreacted to that event. Fucking worthless moron.

@billhike posted:

Who turned over the rock and freed the maggot? That’s one of his more idiotic posts - which is really saying something.

Since the 9/11 attacks only had a mortality rate of .000009, I guess we really overreacted to that event. Fucking worthless moron.

I believe that maggots live in rotting flesh rather than under rocks.  But I take your point.....

Obviously the not been in a hospital in the last 14 months, seen the bodies and people on respirators, doesn't know anyone who does, has no relatives or friends who have died, or has any clue about anything. 

Perhaps shut up and donate to Drumpf's defense fund. 

@jcocktosten posted:

Depends where in Florida to some extent - although I doubt anywhere is great

I think the pandemic isn't over. A good bit of the reaction to it, including masks, etc. is over.  I intend to wear a mask for awhile.  I have gotten used to it.  Frankly, I probably look better with a mask, as it draws attention to my beautiful eyes.

When I go for a long walk in Florida, I'll not need to wear it.  But, if I should go into a store, for sure, I will wear it.  And, for the most part, I'll be avoiding the shopping mall, a part of the visit which I will not miss in any event.

Fully vaccinated for 3 months, Still wear masks, even at Publix where they say you don't need to.  The honor system here, just say you had the shots and then infect everyone.  Never saw an area with so many liars.  Looks like one lives 65 miles south of me

A number of stored and restaurants here still require masks.  Went to Ace Hardware yesterday (owned by an acquaintance of mine) and happily every employee and customer was masked

I  will not engage with this imbecile except to say he calls attention to the horrifying fact that there are millions of ignorant people out there just like him.

33 year old Colorado sheriff deputy who was anti-vax and proclaimed he had "an immune system" dies from Covid.

Anti-vaxxer sheriff's deputy dies from COVID-19 complications shortly after mocking the vaccine on Facebook (yahoo.com)

@Rothko posted:

33 year old Colorado sheriff deputy who was anti-vax and proclaimed he had "an immune system" dies from Covid.

Anti-vaxxer sheriff's deputy dies from COVID-19 complications shortly after mocking the vaccine on Facebook (yahoo.com)

Good riddance.

I find it amusing that these same people who argue anti mask, would certainly wear a mask if they were travelling to parts of the world where the air quality isn't safe to breathe.

There is a logical disconnect just because they can't see a virus.

I'd imagine these same idiots make the same illogical statement when being in space and saying they don't need to wear a spacesuit because, you know, it doesn't protect from all forms of space radiation.

@g-man posted:

I'd imagine these same idiots make the same illogical statement when being in space and saying they don't need to wear a spacesuit because, you know, it doesn't protect from all forms of space radiation.

Not to mention the vacuum of space. Don't give in to the tyranny of oxygen!

70% of Maryland's adults now have had at least one shot.  just under 50% in Florida.

93% of the residents of Palm Beach have received their shots.  Last week there were no cases in the Town.

@Rothko posted:

93% of the residents of Palm Beach have received their shots.  Last week there were no cases in the Town.

weird how vaccines work right?

it's like.. what is small pox?

@Rothko posted:

93% of the residents of Palm Beach have received their shots.  Last week there were no cases in the Town.

Many went north!

Speakin of, what is this obsession with lower intelligent creatures "and their emails"

The CDC loosened international travel guidelines recently.  Things are still heading towards a new normal.  I wish there was a way to get more vaccines to developing countries faster; it would really help dampen this pandemic.