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@haggis posted:

Mrs. H and I got our second Moderna shots yesterday.  She is doing fine.  I, however, spend last night with chills, screaming headache, tinnitus, and aching everywhere.  Things are calming down, but it was brutal for a while.  Of course, my Taiwanese wife things Scots are not as tough as we pretend 

hope you feel better soon, Haggis.

Apparently there is no Covid anymore in Palm Beach.  I went to an Easter brunch at our in-laws' club on the island.  Almost 900 people in multiple rooms.  Huge buffet lines (waiters serving) with virtually no social distancing.  Most people wore masks walking around and waiting to get food, but everyone sitting certainly wasn't wearing them.  If I hadn't gotten my second vaccine shot a week ago I wouldn't have stayed.  I guess I'm going to find out if the vaccine worked - almost like a challenge trial!

Looking around, I suspect that most of the older patrons were vaccinated, but there were lots of multi-generational families with young people and kids.  I don't know if I'd call it hubris, but it certainly felt like pre-Covid times. 

@Rothko posted:

Apparently there is no Covid anymore in Palm Beach.  I went to an Easter brunch at our in-laws' club on the island.  Almost 900 people in multiple rooms.  Huge buffet lines (waiters serving) with virtually no social distancing.  Most people wore masks walking around and waiting to get food, but everyone sitting certainly wasn't wearing them.  If I hadn't gotten my second vaccine shot a week ago I wouldn't have stayed.  I guess I'm going to find out if the vaccine worked - almost like a challenge trial!

Looking around, I suspect that most of the older patrons were vaccinated, but there were lots of multi-generational families with young people and kids.  I don't know if I'd call it hubris, but it certainly felt like pre-Covid times.

Did you see the 60 Minutes piece last night on how most of the vaccines in your county went to rich white folk and the well connected while poor folk got none?

@bman posted:

Did you see the 60 Minutes piece last night on how most of the vaccines in your county went to rich white folk and the well connected while poor folk got none?

No, I didn't see it, but I am not shocked.  To get a vaccine for the last few months in Florida, you either had to know someone (well-connected) or you had to have the time, abilities, computer-savvy and equipment, to log on and get a vaccine (rich white folk).

@Rothko posted:

No, I didn't see it, but I am not shocked.  To get a vaccine for the last few months in Florida, you either had to know someone (well-connected) or you had to have the time, abilities, computer-savvy and equipment, to log on and get a vaccine (rich white folk).

And live near a Publix too. Which many poor don't, apparently. Or, donate a whack of cash to de Santis.

@Rothko posted:

...If I hadn't gotten my second vaccine shot a week ago I wouldn't have stayed.  I guess I'm going to find out if the vaccine worked - almost like a challenge trial!

Fully vaccinated people should not be going, at this point, into spaces with unvaccinated, unmasked people, especially with the variants going around. No vaccine is 100% effective. I doubt if there will be any change to this until perhaps sometime in 2022.

Today is the first day that all Floridian adults are eligible for the vaccine (before today it was 40 and up).  You would think that there would be huge demand, in all parts of the state.  Interestingly, that's not the case.  Publix offered vaccine appointments this morning.  As usual, South and Middle Florida gobbled them up.  But there are lots of available appointments in North Florida and the Panhandle.  So either all the under 40 people in North Florida and the Panhandle already got their Covid vaccines somehow earlier than now, or they aren't planning to get them.  I think I know the answer to that riddle.

Publix really needs to reallocate more vaccine to the south, where it remains in high demand.

@Rothko posted:

Today is the first day that all Floridian adults are eligible for the vaccine (before today it was 40 and up).  You would think that there would be huge demand, in all parts of the state.  Interestingly, that's not the case.  Publix offered vaccine appointments this morning.  As usual, South and Middle Florida gobbled them up.  But there are lots of available appointments in North Florida and the Panhandle.  So either all the under 40 people in North Florida and the Panhandle already got their Covid vaccines somehow earlier than now, or they aren't planning to get them.  I think I know the answer to that riddle.

Publix really needs to reallocate more vaccine to the south, where it remains in high demand.

Not a riddle.  Geography.  "Floribama".

Very much so.  Full capacity.  Everybody is asked to wear a mask except while eating and drinking.  Well, from the photos I've seen so far apparently everybody in attendance is eating and drinking non stop. 

will be interesting to see how many infections are diagnosed among these folks. Does anyone remember the White House superspreader when Barrett was introduced? A couple hundred people and a dozen or so reported infections.  Here, of course, some of the Rangers' fans have been immunized. But surely not all or close to it.

@csm posted:

In what has to be a first, the CDC issued an advisory to Americans recommending avoiding travel to Canada due to the variants currently active here (must be the variants other than the UK one). Wow.  

As more and more of my “fellow Americans” are willingly making the conversion to full-on, open and proud jagoffs, I’d consider it a blessing.

@bman posted:

Did you see the 60 Minutes piece last night on how most of the vaccines in your county went to rich white folk and the well connected while poor folk got none?

And the story was totally false.  Hit piece...doesn’t stop you fools from running with it...and that’s why they do it.  Christ we are in depressing times in this country.   Thank God Biden is President.  

@napacat posted:

And the story was totally false.  Hit piece...doesn’t stop you fools from running with it...and that’s why they do it.  Christ we are in depressing times in this country.   Thank God Biden is President.  

I wish it was totally false but the data says otherwise:

DeSantis criticized for giving special vaccine access to wealthy neighborhoods like Lakewood Ranch | WFLA

COVID Florida vaccine rates by county from richest to poorest (tallahassee.com)

Mrs. Rothko got her second Moderna shot yesterday.  She's at home, in bed, with body aches, chills, arm pain, and nausea.  Hoping it doesn't last long.  My son got his on Wednesday and said he felt a little run down yesterday, but not too bad.

Publix opened up their Florida appointment website and they still have plenty of vaccine appointments available.  I think demand is beginning to drop substantially.  My prediction is that by the end of the month, vaccines in Florida will be given on a walk-in basis.

There is no dispute that they had their own vaccination site at Ocean Reef Club here in the Keys - which is largely populated by rich, conservative DeSantis supporters - in early-mid- January - long before most were able to get them. 

Of course all involved denied anything inappropriate.  DeSantis said he had nothing to do with it and Baptist Hospital and Monroe County said it was done at the State's request.

@Rothko posted:

Mrs. Rothko got her second Moderna shot yesterday.  She's at home, in bed, with body aches, chills, arm pain, and nausea.  Hoping it doesn't last long.  My son got his on Wednesday and said he felt a little run down yesterday, but not too bad.

Publix opened up their Florida appointment website and they still have plenty of vaccine appointments available.  I think demand is beginning to drop substantially.  My prediction is that by the end of the month, vaccines in Florida will be given on a walk-in basis.

Hope she’s better soon, Rothko.

I was able this morning to book my elder son a J&J vaccine appointment for tomorrow in Washington DC.  An hour later the FDA announced they are pausing J&J vaccines due to blood clot issues in a few women.

The FDA pause is certainly not good news.  It must be done; it's part of the process.  But it could really be a problem for future J&J deployment.

And now I have to try to get my son a different vaccine.  Best of luck to me...

@Rothko posted:

I was able this morning to book my elder son a J&J vaccine appointment for tomorrow in Washington DC.  An hour later the FDA announced they are pausing J&J vaccines due to blood clot issues in a few women.

The FDA pause is certainly not good news.  It must be done; it's part of the process.  But it could really be a problem for future J&J deployment.

And now I have to try to get my son a different vaccine.  Best of luck to me...

They are holding their emergency meeting today.  I fully expect them to issue instructions to doctors on how to treat this extremely rare blot clot properly and lift the temporary hold by the end of the day, tomorrow at the latest.  I'd be shocked otherwise.  There have been something like 6.2 million J&J doses administered so far and SIX of these cases so far.  Literally less than a one in a million chance of contracting this rare blood clot and it is treatable; just not by normal methods such as administering Heparin.

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It looks like there is an emergency meeting of the CDC advisory committee scheduled for tomorrow.  I also would be surprised if they lifted the pause so quickly.

Through a friend of mine who is a Vaccine Guru, I was able to book my son a Moderna appointment for Thursday.  So either way, he should hopefully get a shot in the arm this week.

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