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Went onto Publix's Covid vaccine appointment website this morning at 7:00 a.m. to see how it is working.  They've changed things a little bit - each County reports the % of appointments instead of giving the number.   The appointments in South and Middle Florida booked up fast.  The ones in North Florida and the Panhandle did not.   After about an hour and a half I actually got the "Book an Appointment" button, and it offered appointments in about 4 counties in the Panhandle.

For the heck of it, I put in all my information, to see if it would let me book an appointment.  It let me put it all in, including my birthdate (I am not old enough to be eligible yet under Florida guidelines), but it didn't boot me out and it let me select a date and time.  I got to the "Confirm" button for the appointment; but of course, I didn't do so and I logged out instead.

So, a few conclusions:  1)  If you can book an appointment locally, you could do so.  Maybe the Publix employee will figure out you aren't old enough and cancel the appointment, but maybe they won't (if they cancel it they are going to have an extra dose sitting around which they are going to have to give away to someone - who probably also doesn't qualify); and 2) If you are over 65 and are willing to drive to North Florida or the Panhandle for the shot, you can almost definitely get a shot these days.

"It will disappear one day like magic."

It will disappear one day, perhaps by the time we reach 600,000 dead. It didn't have to be this way. An incompetent and dishonest Administration exacerbated the problem.

"And I told them, slow the testing down."

No wonder Napacat and some of the other supporters of this emotionally and intellectually empty man, no longer show their faces around here.

"But, but  Hillary." You think the last four years would have been worse under her?

@The Old Man posted:

"It will disappear one day like magic."

It will disappear one day, perhaps by the time we reach 600,000 dead. It didn't have to be this way. An incompetent and dishonest Administration exacerbated the problem.

"And I told them, slow the testing down."

No wonder Napacat and some of the other supporters of this emotionally and intellectually empty man, no longer show their faces around here.

"But, but  Hillary." You think the last four years would have been worse under her?

Old Man.  I’m not here because the site is filled with assholes like you.  We can all have a different opinion for sure.  But you throw the racist term around to anyone that disagrees with you.  Well FU and the current bunch of Woke idiots.  

And yes it would have been worse with Hillary.  Just like it sucks with this current doddering fool.

I know you watch Bill Maher and he was great last night with Meghan Kelly...makes a lot of sense, but now being twittered by morons.  Dangerous place were in.  Just look at the HHS deputy Secretary nomination...Christ the US is a laughing stock.  

@Rothko posted:

Nice to see that there is a third vaccine option.  I know some people are going to poo poo the lower efficacy rating.  Not me.  I'll take whichever one I can get.

I have an appt for my first jab on Mar 17.  It will be the Moderna vaccine.   If I can get the J&J one earlier, I will definitely do so.  For mild cases, it does have a lower efficacy; however, for severe cases, the efficacy is in the mid to upper 80% range.  I'll take it.

@bman posted:

Very sorry to hear that, A.

Are most people where you are in Florida wearing masks indoors at least?

In Palm Beach County, yes.  There is a county-wide mask mandate.  And all of the major stores, like Publix, Target, Costco, etc. require masks.

Still, you see a few people in there with the masks down below their noses.  I have been very tempted to go up and politely ask them to wear the mask properly, but I can imagine a scenario where that creates a scene.  It really should be up the stores to enforce their rules, since they can kick out violators if they refuse or have them charged with trespassing.

@Rothko posted:

In Palm Beach County, yes.  There is a county-wide mask mandate.  And all of the major stores, like Publix, Target, Costco, etc. require masks.

Still, you see a few people in there with the masks down below their noses.  I have been very tempted to go up and politely ask them to wear the mask properly, but I can imagine a scenario where that creates a scene.  It really should be up the stores to enforce their rules, since they can kick out violators if they refuse or have them charged with trespassing.

At least they seem to be making an effort rather than a political statement by refusing to wear a mask at all.  Not that that is OK either but I really don't get this I-refuse-to-wear-a-mask-because it's my right, or medical experts can't be trusted, or freedom!, or whatever. 

Good news from the Biden Administration that they are going to secure enough vaccine doses for all US adults by the end of May, and worked out a deal for Merck to manufacture the J&J vaccine to increase production.

Of course, Mississippi and Texas took that as permission to go ahead and just open up everything (ala Florida).  No masks, 100% open, go have a beer - make it a Corona!

@Rothko posted:

Good news from the Biden Administration that they are going to secure enough vaccine doses for all US adults by the end of May, and worked out a deal for Merck to manufacture the J&J vaccine to increase production.

Of course, Mississippi and Texas took that as permission to go ahead and just open up everything (ala Florida).  No masks, 100% open, go have a beer - make it a Corona!

wouldn't you think that for purposes of public safety, these states that are opening up could wait just a tad?

Interesting news from the Florida Keys about the ultra-ritzy Ocean Reef Club in Key Largo being able to get vaccines in January for almost all of their 65 year old + residents while other residents of Florida struggled to obtain the vaccine.  Coincidently, the only donors to the Republican Party in Key Largo live in Ocean Reef.

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@Rothko posted:

Interesting news from the Florida Keys about the ultra-ritzy Ocean Reef Club in Key Largo being able to get vaccines in January for almost all of their 65 year old + residents while other residents of Florida struggled to obtain the vaccine.  Coincidently, the only donors to the Republican Party in Key Largo live in Ocean Reef.

It seems FL residents would be justified in storming the governor’s residence, no? At least the ones who don’t have their tongues up 45’s anus.

I stand by my statement.  Google "How long does it take to get immunity from covid vaccine".

Here is just an example:

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With the COVID-19 vaccines rolling out across the country and more people getting vaccinated, many are wondering how long it takes for the vaccines to provide protection. Dr. Kristen Marks, an infectious disease specialist at NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell Medical Center and an associate professor of medicine in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Weill Cornell Medicine, shares six facts about immunity after getting the COVID-19 vaccine.

1. The vaccines are 95% effective and may help reduce the severity of the disease.
In Phase 3 studies, both the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines were found to be 95% effective in the early months after the vaccine. Put simply, “If there were 100 people who would have gotten COVID, it prevented 95 of them from getting it, but it didn’t prevent all 100,” says Dr. Marks. “It definitely provides some protection, but it’s not perfect.”

The good news is that early data found that those who did contract COVID-19 after receiving the vaccine did not develop a severe form of the disease. “So even if it doesn’t completely prevent illness, the study data shows that it does reduce the severity,” says Dr. Marks.

2. You need both doses of the vaccine to achieve immunity.
Scientific studies suggest that taking two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines is very important for achieving the antibody response to provide protection and create lasting immunity.

Dr. Marks says that while there appears to be some protection 14 days after a person’s first dose, that initial protection may wane over time, which is why it’s so important to get the second shot. “There’s been talk of using one dose of the mRNA vaccines, and I’m not in favor of that, because I think that the protection provided by the first dose of these vaccines should be thought of as a bridge to the next dose,” says Dr. Marks. “You need that second dose to get the full immunity.”

Dr. Marks says that the vaccine’s protection is generally achieved somewhere between seven to 14 days after the second dose.

Here's another:

Infectious disease specialist Christian Ramers, MD, told ABC News that "we know from the vaccine clinical trials that it's going to take about 10 to 14 days for you to start to develop protection from the vaccine." The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) corroborates this on its site.

"It typically takes a few weeks for the body to produce T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes after vaccination," the CDC explains in its guidance. These lymphocytes are necessary to achieve immunity from the virus. "Therefore, it is possible that a person could be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 just before or just after vaccination and then get sick because the vaccine did not have enough time to provide protection."

Oh those are already paid.  Accidentally overpaid.  Since we have such a complex tax return with a wide swath of revenue sources (I own two businesses, get a W-2, K-1, 1099s, etc...ditto for PURPLE) we always have to do one final estimated payment by January 15th to ensure we don't end up paying a penalty.  This year we accidentally went over by roughly 2,400.  That'll be coming back shortly.

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@Rothko posted:

In Palm Beach County, yes.  There is a county-wide mask mandate.  And all of the major stores, like Publix, Target, Costco, etc. require masks.

Still, you see a few people in there with the masks down below their noses.  I have been very tempted to go up and politely ask them to wear the mask properly, but I can imagine a scenario where that creates a scene.  It really should be up the stores to enforce their rules, since they can kick out violators if they refuse or have them charged with trespassing.

There was an incident in Seattle this week where a man standing in an outdoor line at a burger joint was asked by the manager and other patrons to please wear a mask. He responded by going to his car and coming back with a gun.  Waived it at the manager and others while issuing threats. Then jumped back into his car as police were approaching, sideswiped several parked cars, and crashed into a building before fleeing on foot. Police nabbed him shortly after, but really? All over wearing a mask? Used the SOG defense in court (it was "some-other-guy").

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