father-in-law in Deerfield, FL got his first immunization. He's 98. He was pleased.
The rollout is the last hurdle for most Americans. With a new federal government, that should ease over the next few months.
Sign up, and GET THE VACCINE, whether the mRNA, or attenuated virus. Reaction rate to vaccine requiring treatment 1/1.5 M. Deaths- 0. Reaction to COVID 19/20/21 requiring treatment if> 40 y-o, 1/10. Deaths 1/30.
You will still need to wear masks and socially distance, since you can get infected by the virus same as if you didn't get the vaccine.
I've seen enough he last 10 months; the virus is no joke, the leading cause of death in US over the last 6 months.
@drtannin 2 posted:You will still need to wear masks and socially distance, since you can get infected by the virus same as if you didn't get the vaccine.
If you can still get infected same is if you didn't get it, what's the point of the vaccine? Not following what you're saying here unless it's that you can get it but not get sick and pass it on to others that haven't been vaccinated.
@csm posted:If you can still get infected same is if you didn't get it, what's the point of the vaccine? Not following what you're saying here unless it's that you can get it but not get sick and pass it on to others that haven't been vaccinated.
Here’s Why Vaccinated People Still Need to Wear a Mask
Part of the problem is with the (necessary) rushing of the vaccines there is some data about infection that has yet to be tracked.
Good news that the US is purchasing another 100 million doses each from Pfizer and Moderna. We will certainly have lots of vaccine on hand by the summertime. In fact, I imagine that we may have a surplus and will eventually sell it to other countries as demand dries up in the US by the fall. J&J and AstraZenaca vaccines will also be coming online, so in a few months things are going to look better and it will become very easy to go to your local pharmacy and get a vaccine.
As we get through the first tier of recipients (mostly healthcare workers and people 65 and older), I am wondering how the next tier is going to go. It seems that there is going to be no way to really monitor who is in the next level priority - essential workers and/or people with at-risk conditions. That's a wildly broad category; almost everyone can pigeon-hole themselves into one of those categories.
So would it be better to either a) just open it up to everyone; or b) open it up by age brackets (55 and older; then 45 and older; etc) that you can at least control?
I'd say open it by age bracket going forward until the J&J drug gets emergency approval (another 200 million doses, single shot only, ready to go already) most likely in March sometime and then throw it wide open to anybody that wants it in a FIFO basis. My two cents worth.
Saw on our news yesterday that Canada has ordered enough vaccines for 6 times our population and the US for 5 times their population. Of course not all will likely work. And there is a long road from ordering vaccine to getting it into everyone's arms....
Ontario announced today that its reported numbers of vaccinated individuals as of yesterday (which was already embarrassingly low at around 96,000) was 2x the number that had actually been fully vaccinated. Up to 55,000 people today out of just shy of 15,000,000. Well done.
My father received his second dose of Pfizer today. I can't tell you what a relief it is. My mother should get her second dose of Moderna next week or the following week.
In Palm Beach County, all Covid vaccines are now going only to Publix supermarkets. No more vaccine for the County health department, hospitals, or other municipalities. The only way to get a vaccine will be by trying to get an appointment through Publix.
But here's the rub: People from nearby counties (Broward and Miami-Dade) can go online and compete for the Palm Beach County Publix appointments (there are no Publix appointments in Broward and Miami-Dade), and they also get their own county allotments as well. And if you live in western Palm Beach County, you are basically SOL because there are no Publix supermarkets out there.
Made the lottery cut this morning. Get my shot friday!!
Interesting article from the LA Times:
The NFL crushed the COVID-19 virus. Here’s how, and what that means for you
I have a friend in Naples who needs to get a shot. He's around 77 yrs old or so. His wife, who is a bit younger, has been trying and trying to no avail. Anyone down in FL have any ideas?
My Dad got his second shot on Sunday. My uncle in Lancaster PA got his first on Monday.
Head of my law firm is getting his second shot today
I would expect to be able to get mine in early Summer -
@irwin posted:I have a friend in Naples who needs to get a shot. He's around 77 yrs old or so. His wife, who is a bit younger, has been trying and trying to no avail. Anyone down in FL have any ideas? You can email me privately at irwin@irwinweiss.com
Options
Be persistent on Publix site
Call 786-629-5752 For the Miami site many folks here getting lucky there
Hard Rock Hotel in Dania also successful
Both parents have now gotten their second shots.
Irwin: I think that the best bets are the Publix site; the county health department, and trying the Miami locations. Also, have them try Walgreens, Walmart and Winn Dixie; I think that they are also starting to take appointments in Florida as well.
We continue this race against time: Vaccinations vs. the variants.
@The Old Man posted:Interesting article from the LA Times:
The NFL crushed the COVID-19 virus. Here’s how, and what that means for you
imagine if the system was changed to, if you caught covid, you don't get a stimulus check. What do you think the adherence to masks would be then?
@g-man posted:imagine if the system was changed to, if you caught covid, you don't get a stimulus check. What do you think the adherence to masks would be then?
No soup for you.
Going first first shot Friday. I'm glad it is the Pfizer vaccine. Seems the stats right now or 95% Pfizer 94.1% Moderna in protection. Some early stats are showing less effectiveness for Moderna in people over 65 but it may be minuscule and is not properly reported or studied yet.
Best wishes for all you guys getting shots, or with your loved ones getting them. I’m 53 with no underlying conditions (other than some extra pounds) so I’m a ways off.
@The Old Man posted:No soup for you.
Going first first shot Friday. I'm glad it is the Pfizer vaccine. Seems the stats right now or 95% Pfizer 94.1% Moderna in protection. Some early stats are showing less effectiveness for Moderna in people over 65 but it may be minuscule and is not properly reported or studied yet.
Decided to take part in the beta test period after all, eh? I think / hope that's the right decision since I'll do the same the moment it opens up for me.
@sd-wineaux posted:Decided to take part in the beta test period after all, eh? I think / hope that's the right decision since I'll do the same the moment it opens up for me.
I'm not sure what this means. I would take either the Moderna or the Pfizer. I am just glad it's not the weak sauce Johnson and Johnson.
@The Old Man posted:I'm not sure what this means. I would take either the Moderna or the Pfizer. I am just glad it's not the weak sauce Johnson and Johnson.
Back on 1/21 you said (among other things) "let the early-injected be the guinea pigs". I guess 2 weeks worth of additional evidence was enough for you, which is great. I still think we're in a beta test period with the vaccines, especially with the mutated strains that are turning up. But I'll happily play guinea pig under the circumstances when given the chance.
@The Old Man posted:I'm not sure what this means. I would take either the Moderna or the Pfizer. I am just glad it's not the weak sauce Johnson and Johnson.
you can take both, they both enable different receptors on the spike protein
@sd-wineaux posted:Back on 1/21 you said (among other things) "let the early-injected be the guinea pigs". I guess 2 weeks worth of additional evidence was enough for you, which is great. I still think we're in a beta test period with the vaccines, especially with the mutated strains that are turning up. But I'll happily play guinea pig under the circumstances when given the chance.
savage!
@sd-wineaux posted:Back on 1/21 you said (among other things) "let the early-injected be the guinea pigs". I guess 2 weeks worth of additional evidence was enough for you, which is great. I still think we're in a beta test period with the vaccines, especially with the mutated strains that are turning up. But I'll happily play guinea pig under the circumstances when given the chance.
Good call on your part. Part of the problem is my sister, who lives in Chicago and works for a medical association, got hers three weeks ago. And all of a sudden I see people all around me my age (including my best friend and his wife) who are also getting it. So I was starting to feel like a chump. I do think about poor, or older, people who either can't get on the internet, use a smartphone, or have the knowledge to navigate the roadblocks.
To g-man, I have no problem being called out or saying--I stand corrected. Especially because I am so rarely wrong.
I got an appointment for an immunization on Wednesday at a local grocery store pharmacy. 
There are advantages to being Medicare aged.
At my appointment, before I got the shot, the nurse asked me if I had a sudden loss of taste. I told her no; I've always dressed this way.
@The Old Man posted:At my appointment, before I got the shot, the nurse asked me if I had a sudden loss of taste. I told her no; I've always dressed this way.
I'll borrow that line on Wednesday if it comes up!
I think I figured out how Israel has vaccinated such a high percentage of persons who live there.
They have this laser machine in outer space, paid for by the Rothschild family, and it beams vaccines into the arms of the Israelis.
@irwin posted:I think I figured out how Israel has vaccinated such a high percentage of persons who live there.They have this laser machine in outer space, paid for by the Rothschild family, and it beams vaccines into the arms of the Israelis.
Brilliant! I may steal this and claim it as my own!
@irwin posted:I think I figured out how Israel has vaccinated such a high percentage of persons who live there.They have this laser machine in outer space, paid for by the Rothschild family, and it beams vaccines into the arms of the Israelis.
This was supposed to be top secret. I don't know how it leaked out.
@The Old Man posted:This was supposed to be top secret. I don't know how it leaked out.
Ask "Q"
I had a friend on Facebook post that he was getting the vaccine yesterday, and a lot of people replied - many of them saying that they'd gotten either the first or both doses already. I was shocked at the emotions of jealousy and/or anger and/or frustration that I felt, knowing that others are getting the vaccine but I don't qualify yet and will have to still wait for weeks or months before I can get one. It just sort of hit me out of the blue. Even though I know that I will have to wait, it was a frustrating thing knowing that there are now people out there beginning to live relatively normal lives.
@Rothko posted:Even though I know that I will have to wait, it was a frustrating thing knowing that there are now people out there beginning to live relatively normal lives.
Well, they shouldn't be trying to live "normal" lives just yet. They should still be using masks, maintaining social distances, washing their hands, etc.
If it will temper your frustration, just think of all the people who have gotten the vaccine but still can't resume their "normal" lives.
@Rothko posted:I had a friend on Facebook post that he was getting the vaccine yesterday, and a lot of people replied - many of them saying that they'd gotten either the first or both doses already. I was shocked at the emotions of jealousy and/or anger and/or frustration that I felt, knowing that others are getting the vaccine but I don't qualify yet and will have to still wait for weeks or months before I can get one. It just sort of hit me out of the blue. Even though I know that I will have to wait, it was a frustrating thing knowing that there are now people out there beginning to live relatively normal lives.
If done properly, it's just a matter of statistics. I'm guessing I'm in a higher risk category than you.
They posted today that at the current rate, everyone in WA state should have a shot by summer of 2022.
Got my shot yesterday. Moderna. There are advantages to being >65 yrs old. For those of you who are close to 65, I'd recommend you do what the youngsters do when they are underage and want to drink alcohol. They create fake IDs and claim they are 21. Might work for the vaccinations too.
@irwin posted:Got my shot yesterday. Moderna. There are advantages to being >65 yrs old. For those of you who are close to 65, I'd recommend you do what the youngsters do when they are underage and want to drink alcohol. They create fake IDs and claim they are 21. Might work for the vaccinations too.
Wait, is a lawyer telling people to break the law? Uh oh.
@mneeley490 posted:They posted today that at the current rate, everyone in WA state should have a shot by summer of 2022.
I have a friend who lives in WA who I thought was exaggerating about the state's program. A little research showed me they are doing terrible.
@irwin posted:Got my shot yesterday. Moderna. There are advantages to being >65 yrs old. For those of you who are close to 65, I'd recommend you do what the youngsters do when they are underage and want to drink alcohol. They create fake IDs and claim they are 21. Might work for the vaccinations too.
Congrats on getting the shot! Any side-effects?