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Weekend Summary

It finally happened, the Gators beat the Dawgs 44-28. The Gators had to win this game in that Georgia had no QB plus many injuries. Kyle Trask is putting up big numbers and Kyle Pitts made some 5* DBs look silly yesterday (before he was injured in a terrible targeting play). Gators have to keep winning in order to face Bama in Atlanta.

Without Trevor Lawrence (give Dabo credit he did not pull any tricks to let him play) and some defensive starters, Clemson was not at full strength against Notre Dame. The Irish took full advantage and prevailed in a 47-40 double OT thriller. This may have gotten them playoff cred and Clemson is now knows they cannot lose again.

What's up in the Big 10. Michigan and Penn St have losing records at the same time for the first time since 1987. Indiana and Northwestern are both 3-0 since I think never. The two hot coaching prospects of Harbaugh and Franklin could be on thin ice. Another  hot commodity, Nebraska coach Scott Frost, has found it is easier to recruit talent at Central Florida than Nebraska (heresy for us older folk). Ohio St is still a top 2 team.

Good to see the Pac 12 playing again. The group of 5 has some good stories. Cincinnati may be a legit team and could find itself in playoff contention. BYU is not bad. Liberty beat Va Tech when the Hokies had a snafu late. Former Ole Miss coach Hugh Freeze will be back in the SEC soon. Coastal Carolina is now 7-0.  

Weekend Summary

Summing it up, COVID cancelled a lot of games and The Masters is being played in November. I did watch a few games at night however.

The best teams improve during the season. Notre Dame looked average early but yesterday won easily at BC following their win over Clemson last week. The Florida offense is playing at a Spurrier level with Kyle Trask on a record breaking pace for TD passes. I never thought that I would see another Gator QB with the football IQ of Danny Wuerffel but Trask knows where to find the open receiver. He threw 6 more TDs last night in the 63-35 win over Arkansas despite his best receiver not playing. Trask is in the Heisman race for real.

Wisconsin could be a legit playoff contender as they whomped Michigan in the Big House 49-11. They are extremely well coached year after year with a roster in the 15-20 range. Indiana won again to go 4-0. The two long time powers of Michigan and Penn State are a combined 1-7. Jim Harbaugh seemingly has to be in settlement negotiations as his team seemed to capitulate last night. James Franklin may also be looking elsewhere as it is beyond belief that Penn St can ever be 0-4.

That's really about it. It is too soon to tell if anyone in the Pac12 is playoff level although recent history says no. We will see how many games get played next week.

Weekend Summary

Alabama- demolished Kentucky 63-3 and clearly the best team no questions asked.

Notre Dame - week off

Ohio St - first big test and passed barely; Justin Fields not his best game and their pass defense was shredded by Penix (who Pruitt at Tenn ran off).

Clemson - game against FSU postponed Sat morning; best break for FSU this season

Texas A&M - game postponed COVID

Florida - slept walked against Vandy but won 38-17.

Cincinnati - won a wild one against UCF 36-33.

BYU - destroyed N Alabama

Wisconsin - lost to Northwestern 17-7; their QB not as good as I thought.

Could we have a playoff with Cincinnati, Northwestern or BYU in it? They may be good stories but all would lose in first round. I know I am a Gator, but they match up against anyone but Bama at this stage.

Of course, we continue the great ride happening in my hometown with Coastal Carolina. The App St Mountaineers came in to Brooks Stadium, the 4 time defending Sun Belt champs and a good team. QB Grayson McCall ran and passed the Chants to scores. The defense made two key picks for a 34-23 win. 8-0 and now awaiting Liberty who finally lost at NC State 15-14.

@scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

Alabama- demolished Kentucky 63-3 and clearly the best team no questions asked.

Notre Dame - week off

Ohio St - first big test and passed barely; Justin Fields not his best game and their pass defense was shredded by Penix (who Pruitt at Tenn ran off).

Clemson - game against FSU postponed Sat morning; best break for FSU this season

Texas A&M - game postponed COVID

Florida - slept walked against Vandy but won 38-17.

Cincinnati - won a wild one against UCF 36-33.

BYU - destroyed N Alabama

Wisconsin - lost to Northwestern 17-7; their QB not as good as I thought.

Could we have a playoff with Cincinnati, Northwestern or BYU in it? They may be good stories but all would lose in first round. I know I am a Gator, but they match up against anyone but Bama at this stage.

Of course, we continue the great ride happening in my hometown with Coastal Carolina. The App St Mountaineers came in to Brooks Stadium, the 4 time defending Sun Belt champs and a good team. QB Grayson McCall ran and passed the Chants to scores. The defense made two key picks for a 34-23 win. 8-0 and now awaiting Liberty who finally lost at NC State 15-14.

Justin Fields had his worst game as a Buckeye, it seemed as if he was trying too hard to make Heisman plays instead of just playing his usual game. 

BYU is out of the playoff discussion IMO after ducking Washington.

Dabo Swinney continues to be insufferable.  HIS team was the one with Covid cases, that forced FSU into a tough decision of cancelling the game.  Did FSU escape a beatdown, most likely.   But Dabo needs to get off his soapbox and worry about keeping his kids healthy.

Weekend Summary

It was Thanksgiving weekend which meant rivalry games and a few were played. We saw history made as Vandy ladies soccer goalie Sarah Fuller became the first woman to play in a P5 game. The Dores inept offense limited her to a kickoff only, but good for her. Buffalo RB Jaret Patterson rushed for over 400 yds and 8 TDs in a win over Kent St.

A few of you were on Dabo for his comments about FSU last week. Turns out FSU allowed Virginia to travel to Tallahassee before cancelling again. This is poor management of the problem as the game could have been called before the Wahoos left Charlottesville. We know it cost Virginia $300,000 to make the trip for nothing. FSU coach Mike Norvell clearly wants the season over and for good reason.

Nick Saban good COVID for real this time and did not coach the Iron Bowl. no problem as the Tide rolled Auburn 42-13. The Bama defense is looking good which spells trouble for everyone in their path. Notre Dame may be better than I thought as they won a tough game at NC 31-17. Their style of using TEs and good defense is proving effective. Clemson welcomed Trevor Lawrence back and easily beat Pitt (up 31-0 in 1st Q). Florida started slow but pulled away from Kentucky (they were 16 players down but played) 34-10. Kyle Pitts returned for the first time in 3 weeks and caught 3 TDs. The Gators may be a top 4 team in ability but they have to win out and beat Bama (not seeing it at present time) to make the playoff. Texas A&M survived a bad performance by Kellen Mond to down LSU in a boring 20-7 win.

As for the other outside contenders that played, Northwestern lost to Mich St thus leaving Ohio St as the only Big 10 playoff hopeful. The slim Pac 12 hopeful Oregon lost to Oregon St late.

Noting that QBs Kyle Trask, Mac Jones, Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields are the leading Heisman contenders. Also noting that Lawrence and Fields are likely the first two picks in the draft. That being said, Alabama WR Devonta Smith and Florida TE Kyle Pitts are the best two players in CFB this season. Defenses have no answer for either player as they score at record paces.

As always in this dreadful year, we will see which games are played next week.

My weekend summary will be posted either late Sunday afternoon or Monday. My son's wedding is this weekend. Yes, we are observing as many safety protocols as possible, but we all know there is no guarantee. The wedding was originally scheduled for late April.

In another 2020 moment, Liberty has cancelled their appearance against Coastal Carolina this Saturday. The Chants contacted BYU who needs a game and the Cougars are traveling cross country to play this Saturday. GameDay was already scheduled to come here, so it should be a big day. Heady times here in Conway, SC.

Weekend Summary

You have dreams, fairy tales, rags to riches stories and then you have the magical and improbable 2020 season for Coastal Carolina. I am positive that the odds of CCU being 10-0, beating 2 ranked teams (one more than Ohio St) well exceeded 1,000-1 before the season started. The Chants were picked to be last in their division preseason. Then the whirlwind events of last week when Liberty cancelled and BYU agreed to come cross country since they desperately needed a game against a quality opponent. Well, they got one as the 11 point underdog Chants won a 22-17 thriller as they stopped BYU on the one yard line as the game ended. For a school with a national baseball title, this could be their great achievement. And as put eloquently by ESPN's Marty Smith (a frequent Grand Strand visitor), it is not the first time that a Cougar has come to Myrtle Beach and left disappointed.

On to the playoff picture as all in the chase won last weekend.

Alabama - in even of they lose a close one to Florida in the SEC game.

Notre Dame - good chance of being in unless they are blown out by Clemson in the ACC game. The league knows this and cancelled some games in order to insure that both teams are not upset beforehand.

Clemson - needs to beat ND and should, but it will be closer than most think.

Ohio St - needs to play games and Michigan may not comply. Then up to the committee.

Texas A & M - probably needs a Clemson blowout, a Bama win, or Ohio St either losing or not playing enough games.

Florida - needs to beat Bama which this Gator fan views unlikely.

Cincinnati - needs chaos

@csm posted:

Michigan has cancelled The Game, leaving Ohio State one game short of eligibility for the B1G Championship Game.  2020 strikes again. Will be interesting to see how the committee deals with this.

As a Buckeye fan, hard to believe anything other than they found a way to try and screw over Ohio State, and didn't want to take their annual *ss whipping (Ohio State was a 30 point favorite).   Xichigan was cleared for practice yesterday.

Ohio State has a number of options on the table for a make up game.  While they may not make the Big 10 Championship game, hard to believe the Playoff committee wouldn't vote them into the playoffs.

@patespo1 posted:

As a Buckeye fan, hard to believe anything other than they found a way to try and screw over Ohio State, and didn't want to take their annual *ss whipping (Ohio State was a 30 point favorite).   Xichigan was cleared for practice yesterday.

Ohio State has a number of options on the table for a make up game.  While they may not make the Big 10 Championship game, hard to believe the Playoff committee wouldn't vote them into the playoffs.

Why not have another rigged vote?

Weekend Summary

Former Gator WR Chris Doering stated it best "this was the most pathetic stupid loss in my 38 years as a fan and player". He was being kind. Dan Mullen has been exposed as a great play caller and offensive mind, but a terrible leader off the field. His team was unprepared, lacked a killer instinct (this for the past four weeks) and he held his best player out for next week. He stated that this game was meaningless since beating Bama (haha) was all he needed for the playoff. The result was a 37-34 upset loss to a 23 point underdog and under-manned LSU squad. Good bye playoffs and good bye Heisman to Kyle Trask. Mullen better make changes or the Gators will be a 9-3 team forever. Not even being close to elite.

Nothing else left to say.

Weekend Summary

This has been a crazy year with the COVID postponing games, moving venues, opt outs by players and other unforeseen events. Fortunately, most of the games were played. Despite all of this craziness, CFB is still the same, Alabama and Clemson. These two concurrent dynasties are once again on a title collision course. I expect the 30 for 30 documentary on this any time now, at least part 1.

When the playoff picks are announced I expect it to be Bama, Clemson, Ohio St and Notre Dame. The top two are hoping it's the Irish and not Texas A&M. Earlier I said the best five teams were Bama, Clemson, A&M, Florida and Georgia and I still believe it. However, with the SEC knocking each other off you had to put other teams in the playoff.

After last week's debacle Gator fans were wondering how bad the SEC Game would be. The pundits all said they needed a perfect game to beat the Tide in the 10th overall meeting in this game. This was the 11th time Florida has played in Atlanta in the SEC Game and the first time that I was not there in person. It turns out that the Gators were indeed almost perfect as they came back from a 17 point halftime deficit to lose 52-46. The stars showed as Mac Jones, Najee Harris and DeVonta Smith had big games but so did Kyle Trask, Kyle Pitts and Kadarious Toney. I was proud of the Gators and surprised they kept it close, but never happy to lose.

Does missing Trevor Lawrence mean anything? Uh duh yeah. Notre Dame has had some good years but they just are not the elite team that they think they are. To be fair and despite their tradition, ND is a rigorous academic institution and probably does not engage in the "recruiting practices" of many other schools. Clemson won this game easily 34-10.

The other championship games saw Ohio St overcome a sluggish start to beat Northwestern 22-10. Justin Fields has not played well against the two decent teams he has seen. Oregon bested USC 31-24 in the Pac 12 game. Oklahoma may be better now than a couple of playoff teams and they beat Iowa St 27-21 to win the Big 12. COVID struck again cancelling the Sun Belt title game so Coastal ends the regular season 11-0.

We can discuss the playoffs and fired coaches tomorrow.

I imagine the 4 seed will be Notre Dame, even though I personally thought they blew it, and don't deserve it.  I gotta believe that if Trevor Lawrence played in the first meeting, the Irish would have 2 losses this season and wouldn't even be in the conversation. If either A&M or ND are the 4 seed, both would get beaten badly by Bama.  I would like to see Cincinnati get a shot (can you have 2 teams from Ohio in the playoff?), or if you're talking about the 4 best teams at the moment, maybe Oklahoma should be in the conversation.

Does Auburn hire Sark and continue the SEC trend of trying to beat Saban by hiring his former assistants?

Welcome back Greg Schiano to Rutgers- #nomoredoormat

@scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

This has been a crazy year with the COVID postponing games, moving venues, opt outs by players and other unforeseen events. Fortunately, most of the games were played. Despite all of this craziness, CFB is still the same, Alabama and Clemson. These two concurrent dynasties are once again on a title collision course. I expect the 30 for 30 documentary on this any time now, at least part 1.

When the playoff picks are announced I expect it to be Bama, Clemson, Ohio St and Notre Dame. The top two are hoping it's the Irish and not Texas A&M. Earlier I said the best five teams were Bama, Clemson, A&M, Florida and Georgia and I still believe it. However, with the SEC knocking each other off you had to put other teams in the playoff.

After last week's debacle Gator fans were wondering how bad the SEC Game would be. The pundits all said they needed a perfect game to beat the Tide in the 10th overall meeting in this game. This was the 11th time Florida has played in Atlanta in the SEC Game and the first time that I was not there in person. It turns out that the Gators were indeed almost perfect as they came back from a 17 point halftime deficit to lose 52-46. The stars showed as Mac Jones, Najee Harris and DeVonta Smith had big games but so did Kyle Trask, Kyle Pitts and Kadarious Toney. I was proud of the Gators and surprised they kept it close, but never happy to lose.

Does missing Trevor Lawrence mean anything? Uh duh yeah. Notre Dame has had some good years but they just are not the elite team that they think they are. To be fair and despite their tradition, ND is a rigorous academic institution and probably does not engage in the "recruiting practices" of many other schools. Clemson won this game easily 34-10.

The other championship games saw Ohio St overcome a sluggish start to beat Northwestern 22-10. Justin Fields has not played well against the two decent teams he has seen. Oregon bested USC 31-24 in the Pac 12 game. Oklahoma may be better now than a couple of playoff teams and they beat Iowa St 27-21 to win the Big 12. COVID struck again cancelling the Sun Belt title game so Coastal ends the regular season 11-0.

We can discuss the playoffs and fired coaches tomorrow.

Bama, A&M, Florida, and Georgia?  As my son likes to say, 'SEC bias'

As a Buckeye fan I have severe doubts about the secondary against Clemson WRs.  That being said would love to see Dabo get that stupid, condescending smirk smacked off of his face in this revenge game from last years playoffs. 

As to SEC bias, check out the list of national champions, bowl wins, draft picks and any other measure from 2000 on. Other than Ohio St, Clemson and Oklahoma, it is the SEC's show. The SEC has earned it.

Congrats to San Diego St. After watching BYU destroy the "national champion" UCF Knights (whom Cincy beat by 3 points), it confirms that Coastal Carolina has a pretty good team.

In the win or go home SEC world, there are 3 dismissals at Vandy, SCar and Auburn. Combined with last year, 6 of the 14 members have new coaches. Tenn's Jeremy Pruitt is on thin ice. And you heard it here first, there could be a change at LSU. There is an ugly Title IX lawsuit coming up that even Coach O may not survive. We already know that their hoops has been caught giving cash to players. Can you say "lack of institutional control". The Bayou Bengals may have sold their soul to win the Natty last year. Finally, we have the curious case of Louisiana coach Billy Napier who has turned down Miss ST, Ole Miss, SCar and Auburn (booster control seems to be the issue there). Napier is very confident that he can get the lottery job and it may well be LSU.

Semifinal Round Summary

The primary discussion has been that the four team playoff format has produced a limited amount of playoff teams who in turn dominate recruiting creating a limited amount of teams making the playoff. Add to that money, ratings, etc and it is almost impossible for a group of five team to make the FF. This is a year where an eight team playoff may have resulted in a 5-8 seed at least winning one game if not two. Case in point was the Gators, down 10 starters and 25 players thus writing the Cotton Bowl off as a scrimmage, resulting in an embarrassing Oklahoma rout. OU may have well been that proverbial team that no one wanted to play as they finished strong. Dan Mullen better learn that you have to put your best effort forward in every game. Also, Cincinnati was for real as well.

Quoting NBC golf announcer Dan Hicks (his most famous call on Tiger's tying putt on the 72nd hole in the 08 US Open), "expect anything different". Of course I am referring to the continued futility of Notre Dame competing at the highest level. The Irish, despite their storied history to most of us over 50, just do not recruit at the level of the current elite. Facing an Alabama offense with too many weapons (minus Jalen Waddle), the Tide scored on their 1st three drives and never looked back 31-14. Brian Kelly was well aware of the criticism as ND had a backdoor cover TD, forced an onside kick and actually called a TO with one second left trying to save face.

The second playoff game produced a surprising result as Ohio St dominated Clemson 49-28. The game pitted the top 2 QB recruits of 2018, Georgia natives Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields. Clemson started fast but OSU scored on five consecutive drives for a 35-14 lead and essentially the game. Fields threw for 6 TDs and likely played himself back into the 2nd pick in the draft behind Lawrence. This was despite playing with maybe broken ribs after a vicious hit. If there was ever a "revenge is a dish best served cold" game, this was it. The OSU staff had the score of last year's game displayed everywhere in the training room for a year making it personal. As for Clemson, this is the first chink in their armor I have seen in a while as their offensive line is average for an elite team.

If Fields is healthy we could see a great title game, something like we saw in the SEC Title Game.

@scbeerman posted:

Semifinal Round Summary

The primary discussion has been that the four team playoff format has produced a limited amount of playoff teams who in turn dominate recruiting creating a limited amount of teams making the playoff. Add to that money, ratings, etc and it is almost impossible for a group of five team to make the FF. This is a year where an eight team playoff may have resulted in a 5-8 seed at least winning one game if not two. Case in point was the Gators, down 10 starters and 25 players thus writing the Cotton Bowl off as a scrimmage, resulting in an embarrassing Oklahoma rout. OU may have well been that proverbial team that no one wanted to play as they finished strong. Dan Mullen better learn that you have to put your best effort forward in every game. Also, Cincinnati was for real as well.

Quoting NBC golf announcer Dan Hicks (his most famous call on Tiger's tying putt on the 72nd hole in the 08 US Open), "expect anything different". Of course I am referring to the continued futility of Notre Dame competing at the highest level. The Irish, despite their storied history to most of us over 50, just do not recruit at the level of the current elite. Facing an Alabama offense with too many weapons (minus Jalen Waddle), the Tide scored on their 1st three drives and never looked back 31-14. Brian Kelly was well aware of the criticism as ND had a backdoor cover TD, forced an onside kick and actually called a TO with one second left trying to save face.

The second playoff game produced a surprising result as Ohio St dominated Clemson 49-28. The game pitted the top 2 QB recruits of 2018, Georgia natives Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields. Clemson started fast but OSU scored on five consecutive drives for a 35-14 lead and essentially the game. Fields threw for 6 TDs and likely played himself back into the 2nd pick in the draft behind Lawrence. This was despite playing with maybe broken ribs after a vicious hit. If there was ever a "revenge is a dish best served cold" game, this was it. The OSU staff had the score of last year's game displayed everywhere in the training room for a year making it personal. As for Clemson, this is the first chink in their armor I have seen in a while as their offensive line is average for an elite team.

If Fields is healthy we could see a great title game, something like we saw in the SEC Title Game.

I didn't expect Ohio State to dominate like they did, so I guess a bit surprising there, but when they play as an underdog they are very dangerous, so not surprised by the win.  As you stated, there was a lot of motivation for the last 12 months to stick it to Dabo the Fraud, and they kept pounding them until the end.  Hopefully Fields is healthy and we all get a championship for the ages. 

I'll also add the ACC was 0-6 in bowl games and the SEC had a lackluster record as well.  What Florida and Mullen put on the field was embarrassing. 

@patespo1 posted:

I didn't expect Ohio State to dominate like they did, so I guess a bit surprising there, but when they play as an underdog they are very dangerous, so not surprised by the win.  As you stated, there was a lot of motivation for the last 12 months to stick it to Dabo the Fraud, and they kept pounding them until the end.  Hopefully Fields is healthy and we all get a championship for the ages.

I'll also add the ACC was 0-6 in bowl games and the SEC had a lackluster record as well.  What Florida and Mullen put on the field was embarrassing.

lol - With identical W-L%, it seems the B10 had a lackluster bowl season too. And head-to-head, they split their 2 games, with an unranked Ole Piss beating the #11 Hoosiers, whom ironically, complained about not being invited to a NY6 bowl.

But I'm glad to see "The O" finally show up for a game that mattered. Can they do it again?

@greendrazi posted:

lol - With identical W-L%, it seems the B10 had a lackluster bowl season too. And head-to-head, they split their 2 games, with an unranked Ole Piss beating the #11 Hoosiers, whom ironically, complained about not being invited to a NY6 bowl.

But I'm glad to see "The O" finally show up for a game that mattered. Can they do it again?

As an FYI Indiana lost their starting QB to injury, but yeah they lost.  As to your question, as long as Fields is healthy I think they'll be fine.

Honest opinions sought. I don't watch very much college football so I have a limited data set.

Two years ago when I watched Lawrence play as a Freshman I though it was the best performance I'd seen by a Freshman QB in a situation against top teams.  He clearly outplayed Tau in the Championship game.  He was far from perfect, with lots of small flaws but far ahead of what one would expect from a true Freshman QB.   Against the top teams in the country with NFL talent all over the defense he played well above his age and experience

Last year he had a poor game against LSU and was outplayed by Burrows.  I didn't think a lot of it, mainly because I caught about a 1/3 of the game.

Against Ohio State I got to watch almost all of the game.  My first thought was WTF?  He doesn't look any better than he did two years ago, like he's been in limbo for two years with no improvement in any area.  Good QB, but essentially the same product he was as a Freshman.

Those of you who read the NFL thread know that I have a serious 'dig' against QB's coming out of top programs that you really have no to very little useful game film on how they will perform under NFL pass rushes.  Watching Burrows last year he was mixed against Clemson.  He could get the ball out under 2.5 seconds, but he also held for 4-6 seconds a lot. 

Both Fields and Lawrence held the ball with good options far longer than they could in an NFL game.  It's a hard, hard habit to break.  You end up dead, or like Prescott or Mariota, with lots of 3 yard scrambles and tons of sacks.  You also get a lot of yards because you're behind all the time.

I watched Nick Starkel the most this year at San Jose State, and I don't think he's a top 5 round draft prospect next year, but the ball does come out under 3 seconds consistently.  That's what made Herbert such a great pick, he didn't have that habit to break.

I have no doubt the way these things go that Lawrence and Fields will go 1-2.  Given that means coaching from the Jags and Jets it could turn out really badly for both of them.

So did I miss something?  Was that just a middling performance by Lawrence?  Has he shown more improvement than I saw in that limited data set?

If going 6-2 is lackluster, then the SEC is lackluster. That is on top of 8-2 last year. That said, I am souring on Mullen until he learns to be a boss (firing Grantham) and owning up to his mistakes (you always prepare and try to win).

I agree that Lawrence is essentially the same level as he was as a frosh. I still believe he is a generational talent as maybe is Fields. I go by high school recruiting rankings a lot as more than you think 5 stars make it to the league. The holding the ball observation is astute and I will look for this going forward.

I repeat that I believe the best two players that I saw were DeVonta Smith (who the Heisman voters may agree) and Kyle Pitts. Any team that does not draft either, other than the two QBs, is making a mistake.

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