Weekend Summary

Sorry for the late post but I traveled to the game and have been watching baseball as well. I do not write about it much, but I love baseball and am a fanatical Braves fan.

I go down to Gainesville about once a year, but as I attended the game with my son I reflected upon the beauty of CFB and being able to go to games since 1965 (Gators since 1977). The emotions of seeing old friends and experiencing the gameday traditions are a beautiful constant in life. The Swamp was as alive as I ever remembered it, and singing "I Won't Back Down" with 90,000 people was awesome. Ok, enough of the philosophy as many of you are rolling your eyes now.

Auburn came into Gainesville confident, well earned, for a clash with Florida. The loud crowd no doubt had an adverse effect upon frosh prodigy QB Bo Nix who may not have been ready for the moment. Or perhaps, the physical Gator defense shutting down the run was probably more of a factor. It was a very strange first half, error prone, with the Gators leading 17-13. The 3rd quarter turned into an old fashioned SEC field position slugfest, and you pretty much knew one big play would decide it. Much maligned (by his own fans) senior RB Lamichael Perine then dashed 88 yds down the sideline to clinch it 24-13. It was sweet justice for Perine, an Alabama native and 3 star recruit deemed too slow to play at Auburn.

What we learned about the Gators is that despite their many flaws, they are physical, have a strong will to win and play great when it matters. While LSU and Georgia are daunting tasks, they are not as far fetched as previously believed. The Gators may not win, but they will be in both games in the second half.

Nothing else happened on the national scene as many teams had the week off. Everyone knows that the SEC has five legit teams (yes Florida is objectively in that group now), but the Big 10 also has three contenders in Ohio St, Penn St and Wisconsin. Oklahoma and Clemson have the easiest road to the playoff. Notre Dame is still not out of it. There are a lot of good teams this year. While boring to date, the season is about to ramp up when we get some head to head matchups.

scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

Sorry for the late post but I traveled to the game and have been watching baseball as well. I do not write about it much, but I love baseball and am a fanatical Braves fan.

I go down to Gainesville about once a year, but as I attended the game with my son I reflected upon the beauty of CFB and being able to go to games since 1965 (Gators since 1977). The emotions of seeing old friends and experiencing the gameday traditions are a beautiful constant in life. The Swamp was as alive as I ever remembered it, and singing "I Won't Back Down" with 90,000 people was awesome. Ok, enough of the philosophy as many of you are rolling your eyes now.

Auburn came into Gainesville confident, well earned, for a clash with Florida. The loud crowd no doubt had an adverse effect upon frosh prodigy QB Bo Nix who may not have been ready for the moment. Or perhaps, the physical Gator defense shutting down the run was probably more of a factor. It was a very strange first half, error prone, with the Gators leading 17-13. The 3rd quarter turned into an old fashioned SEC field position slugfest, and you pretty much knew one big play would decide it. Much maligned (by his own fans) senior RB Lamichael Perine then dashed 88 yds down the sideline to clinch it 24-13. It was sweet justice for Perine, an Alabama native and 3 star recruit deemed too slow to play at Auburn.

What we learned about the Gators is that despite their many flaws, they are physical, have a strong will to win and play great when it matters. While LSU and Georgia are daunting tasks, they are not as far fetched as previously believed. The Gators may not win, but they will be in both games in the second half.

Nothing else happened on the national scene as many teams had the week off. Everyone knows that the SEC has five legit teams (yes Florida is objectively in that group now), but the Big 10 also has three contenders in Ohio St, Penn St and Wisconsin. Oklahoma and Clemson have the easiest road to the playoff. Notre Dame is still not out of it. There are a lot of good teams this year. While boring to date, the season is about to ramp up when we get some head to head matchups.

Beer, you are correct. I can’t recall a more boring start to a season. 

Glad you all had a great game day. Post some pictures on IG.

jburman82 posted:

I like Fromm. He is good. However, Fields was clearly more dynamic since high school. 

I mock my UF  friends about the talent UGA has and say it doesn't matter that Mullen is a good coach since he is Uncle Eddie on the recruiting trail. UF wont sniff a SEC East title for a while. They come back with Smart isnt really that smart. When he does stuff like run off Fields its hard to disagree. 

Can Riley recruit and develop his own QB? That's a question whispered in the ear of every high school QB in the country.

Greeny, Riley had both Baker and Kyler for 3 years, so seems he can develop just fine. As for can he recruit, he recruited the #1 Pro prospect in the nation last year. I’m hoping Rattler redshirts but he has already played in 3 games as Hurts plays little thus far in second half. 

patespo1 posted:

The Ohio St. - Wisconsin game is going to be a real battle, and Penn St. is lurking but hasn't played anyone.  Michigan St. has a very good defense, they 'held' Ohio St. to 34.  

Xichigan-Iowa was like watching monkeys hump a football.  

Michigan v Iowa was truly unwatchable.

Weekend Summary

Back home from many trips with no family functions, just a day to watch football. And it was a day of many games as the season is finally heating up.

We start between the hedges in Athens where a lackluster SC team visited them Dawgs. The Gamecocks just flat out were more physical than Georgia which made up for the talent disparity. SC shut down Georgia's running game, made QB Jake Fromm toss it more than usual. SC was holding on dearly to its 17-10 halftime( with its 3rd QB) lead late when Ga tied it (after a BS def hold on a 4th down play) sending it to OT. After a Ga WR muffed a pass for an SC int, the Gamecocks missed a 33 yd FG resulting in DOT. Carolina settled for a FG, stopped Ga and their trusty kicker, who also missed a big one last year in the SEC Title game, pulled it left giving Will Muschamp a 20-17 upset win. No one does less with more talent than Kirby Smart.

The other noon game was the Red River game in Dallas between OU and Texas. The game was a defensive struggle early before the scoring heated up. OU was generally in control of this game throughout and prevailed 34-27. The Sooners are much better on defense, more balanced on offense and now have a clear path to the playoff. As noted before, they have just enough defense to compete with the big boys.   

The 3:30 window had Alabama going to Kyle Field to play A&M. After a tight first quarter, the Tide did their thing, tossing it around to their all world receivers for big scores. The final was 47-28 which is about the margin Clemson beat A&M. We will find out about Bama in Nov.  when they play LSU and Auburn. Speaking of Clemson, they hosted FSU in Upstate SC. In what used to be a great rival game, these programs have gone in complete different paths. The Tigers jumped out to an easy 42-0 lead, Trevor Lawrence looking better, for a 45-14 win. Dabo was no doubt on his team after the close NC win as he knows where he has to be for the playoff. He always builds them for that task, but he knows he may have to be undefeated, due to his weak schedule, to get there

Finally, at night the big one in Red Stick before a crazed Cajun crowd. I know Penn St beat Iowa 17-12 and ND edged USC 30-27 (in what used to be a huge game) but obviously I did not watch a play of either. The experts all said LSU would win easily and the final result showed that, but it was a much more competitive game than that. This well played game was back and forth, with LSU striking quickly for their scores while the Gators methodically drove it down the field for theirs. The game was 21 all at the half and 28-28 in the 4th quarter before LSU got two more for the 42-28 win. Florida needed to play a perfect game to win in this stadium, and they gave it a shot, but LSU is the better team. In fact, they are really, really good. They have a Saints off cood who has them playing like the Saints. QB Joe Burrow is making NFL reads and throws, and is in the Heisman race.

.All in all, a good day of football and I was happy to watch it.

It's still amazing to observe that both LSU & Bamma look unbeatable on offense and very beatable on defense. The 11/9 game will be a shootout?

Sooners have gotten over their only roadblock to the playoffs.

tOSU vs Wisky in a couple of weeks should be a good game.

The Dawgs' loss places them in a doubtful playoff spot position.

greendrazi posted:

It's still amazing to observe that both LSU & Bamma look unbeatable on offense and very beatable on defense. The 11/9 game will be a shootout?

Sooners have gotten over their only roadblock to the playoffs.

tOSU vs Wisky in a couple of weeks should be a good game.

The Dawgs' loss places them in a doubtful playoff spot position.

Greeny, I was also thinking about the Bama v LSU game. Bama has given up 28 to A&M, 31 to Ole Miss and 23 to South Carolina.  Saban may have a stroke! 

Sooners may have to play Texas again (dumbass conference) and either team beating the other twice in a year will be difficult.

scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

Back home from many trips with no family functions, just a day to watch football. And it was a day of many games as the season is finally heating up.

We start between the hedges in Athens where a lackluster SC team visited them Dawgs. The Gamecocks just flat out were more physical than Georgia which made up for the talent disparity. SC shut down Georgia's running game, made QB Jake Fromm toss it more than usual. SC was holding on dearly to its 17-10 halftime( with its 3rd QB) lead late when Ga tied it (after a BS def hold on a 4th down play) sending it to OT. After a Ga WR muffed a pass for an SC int, the Gamecocks missed a 33 yd FG resulting in DOT. Carolina settled for a FG, stopped Ga and their trusty kicker, who also missed a big one last year in the SEC Title game, pulled it left giving Will Muschamp a 20-17 upset win. No one does less with more talent than Kirby Smart.

The other noon game was the Red River game in Dallas between OU and Texas. The game was a defensive struggle early before the scoring heated up. OU was generally in control of this game throughout and prevailed 34-27. The Sooners are much better on defense, more balanced on offense and now have a clear path to the playoff. As noted before, they have just enough defense to compete with the big boys.   

The 3:30 window had Alabama going to Kyle Field to play A&M. After a tight first quarter, the Tide did their thing, tossing it around to their all world receivers for big scores. The final was 47-28 which is about the margin Clemson beat A&M. We will find out about Bama in Nov.  when they play LSU and Auburn. Speaking of Clemson, they hosted FSU in Upstate SC. In what used to be a great rival game, these programs have gone in complete different paths. The Tigers jumped out to an easy 42-0 lead, Trevor Lawrence looking better, for a 45-14 win. Dabo was no doubt on his team after the close NC win as he knows where he has to be for the playoff. He always builds them for that task, but he knows he may have to be undefeated, due to his weak schedule, to get there

Finally, at night the big one in Red Stick before a crazed Cajun crowd. I know Penn St beat Iowa 17-12 and ND edged USC 30-27 (in what used to be a huge game) but obviously I did not watch a play of either. The experts all said LSU would win easily and the final result showed that, but it was a much more competitive game than that. This well played game was back and forth, with LSU striking quickly for their scores while the Gators methodically drove it down the field for theirs. The game was 21 all at the half and 28-28 in the 4th quarter before LSU got two more for the 42-28 win. Florida needed to play a perfect game to win in this stadium, and they gave it a shot, but LSU is the better team. In fact, they are really, really good. They have a Saints off cood who has them playing like the Saints. QB Joe Burrow is making NFL reads and throws, and is in the Heisman race.

.All in all, a good day of football and I was happy to watch it.

The ACC has only 1 team currently ranked in the top 25. Wow!  

 

It's amazing how quickly conferences can go from down to up or vice versa. 4 years ago FSU, Clemson and Louisville were top 15 teams with ND State and VT top 25 caliber teams and the SEC pretty much had Bama. One conference got its coaching hires right and one didn't. 

Kirby Smart is a great recruiter (at least his bag men are) but man does he always find a way to blow it. I wonder when their fans lose patience? Get a good coach in there and its possibly back to back titles with that talent. 

FSU lost to Clemson by basically the same score as Bama did in the title game. We're back baby!!!!!

One thing is for sure...I'll never complain about having a coach in Athens that can recruit but can't coach....as eventually that leads to the "bag" men being less effective over time when GA doesn't win anything or will eventually lead to going way over the line and opening themselves up to recruiting violations.  Its also nice having a coach in Tally that can neither recruit or coach.

Shouldn't take long for some top High School QB's to notice how good Mullen has made a 3 star recruit with little game experience coming into college.

While I still don't think we pull off the win against GA, it now at least appears the chance of it happening is a little better than "slim and none".

Weekend Summary

I watched a lot of football again due to a wise decision, and that was to stay home instead of going to Columbia for the Gator game. In the past, I would have gone despite the weather, but given my age and travel schedule, my dry home felt good. In that weather, I may have declined an invite to a top 20 golf course.

We start with the entertaining games:

UNC/Va Tech goes 6 OTS 43-41 Hokies. Who knew on the 5th OT it now comes down to one play at the 3 yd line for each team. Neither team wanted this one in OT.

Texas outlasts Kansas 50-48 in Austin.

Oregon edges Washington 35-31 and is not out of the playoff picture yet.

My apologies, somewhat, to Jim Harbaugh as his team came back from a 21 point hole to lose to Penn St 28-21. A dropped pass at the end may have forced OT.

Illinois pulls the upset of the da;y, knocking off Wisconsin on a walk off FG 24-23.

Wake beats FSU 24-22, to go 6-1. Wake should never beat FSU but I probably said that 7 years ago when it last occurred.

Now for the playoff contenders:

In what used to be a great rivalry, Alabama beat Tenn (3rd Sat and all that) 35-13, but this game was much closer than that. Tua left the game with the dreaded high ankle sprain (not his first) which could become a problem in three weeks.

They were revved up in Stark-Vegas as Miss St scored to make it 9-7 against LSU. Never mind, as LSU and Heisman favorite Joe Burrow cruised to a 36-13 win.

Ohio St easily beat Northwestern. Clemson is sleepwalking through their schedule, and after a slow start, won easily at Louisville. OU had little trouble with WV.

In the rains of TS Nestor, Georgia had a scoreless tie with Kentucky at the half. The Dawgs did not run a play in Ky territory in that half while the Cats had zero yds passing. Georgia got it together in the 2nd half to win 21-0. Finally, the Gators faced a charged up Gamecock fan base after a brutal two game run. While benefiting from a few calls, the Gators finally got the lead in the 4th quarter and won 38-27. The Cocktail Party game in Jax is in two weeks and is now an even game (would have never thought that earlier this year).

Oh yeah, Minnesota, SMU and Baylor are all unbeaten. To me, Ohio St and LSU are the best two teams thus far.

scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

Ohio St easily beat Northwestern.

Unfortunately, I was at this game.  Final score 52-3, but it wasn't that close. 

I was able to convince my wife to leave at halftime, and we were home by the end of the game.  My son in law and his family are from Ohio and they all came in for the game - they were happy at the outcome, but a bit bummed out by the Illinois win over Wisconsin as it takes away from what was to be a big game this coming weekend.  The high-lite of the evening was definitely the tailgate.  

I saw this article last week about it being time for Florida fans to embrace Urban Meyer and what he accomplished while head coach at Florida

https://www.orlandosentinel.co...jvqhau7re-story.html

I have an open mind, since time does heal old wounds...and now that Meyer is no longer at OSU...and with his former OC Mullen as our coach...I'm ok welcoming him back.....as long as....

https://247sports.com/college/...-is-fired-137327773/

This never materializes.  

 

Time and winning might heal wounds but its a well established fact Meyer is a liar and a scum bag. I'd rather have another lost decade than have him as our coach. A large portion of the fan base feels this way. Its not happening. Those articles are click bait.

There is a lot more to think about than just we lost to Wake, screw this. Firing him now would set this program back 5 years. Its a small sample so far but we are seeing the early signing period is killing first year coach's classes. They get stuck with kids they may not want or don't fit their scheme and the "high star" kids they do get are only available because other teams who have been in on them backed off or don't value them as highly as their stars suggest. To do this twice in three years would be roster suicide. Its also incredibly unfair to fire a coach after one real recruiting class.

 

Never mind what coach in their right mind would walk into this program right now. APR number is a disaster since Jimbo didn't make kids go to class so you cant purge the roster of kids you don't want. (this has affected Willie too). University Pres, AD and Booster Pres are all retiring next year so the people who hired you wont be here to protect you. 

 

FSU has serious money problems. We were an all girls school for a long time. Law school wasn't founded until 1966, Medical school wasn't founded until 2000. We don't have a big donor base. Here's a fun stat. FSU has 14 people who donate more than $25K per year. UGA has 38 people who donate an average of $200K over a five year span and 1150 people who donate $25k. We are way behind in TV money too because our network is just getting started. After dropping the requisite $30M-$40M on outgoing and incoming buyouts, the football budget will be destroyed. Our scholarships aren't even endowed for god's sake.

 

Willie gets 3 years. It will at least give him time to set a nice floor for the roster for whoever comes next and will take about $7M off that buyout number. Hopefully with some new OL he can put together a nice season next year and this becomes moot. Im not sure he can but I do believe he deserves the chance.

Only win 4 games and this all goes out the window. Fire him.

Just saw an article where a former foundation head in Louisiana was sentenced to 33 months in prison for money laundering, wire fraud etc. He was apparently a very careless bagman as $167,000 of his embezzlement was directed to the father of former LSU OL Vadal Alexander who started there from 2012-2015. Alexander was a 4 star recruit and rated 167 by ESPN coming out of high school. So we now know that the market price of a player in that range is $167k.

scbeerman posted:

Just saw an article where a former foundation head in Louisiana was sentenced to 33 months in prison for money laundering, wire fraud etc. He was apparently a very careless bagman as $167,000 of his embezzlement was directed to the father of former LSU OL Vadal Alexander who started there from 2012-2015. Alexander was a 4 star recruit and rated 167 by ESPN coming out of high school. So we now know that the market price of a player in that range is $167k.

Not surprising, lots of rumors of SEC schools paying players among other things

thistlintom posted:
scbeerman posted:

Just saw an article where a former foundation head in Louisiana was sentenced to 33 months in prison for money laundering, wire fraud etc. He was apparently a very careless bagman as $167,000 of his embezzlement was directed to the father of former LSU OL Vadal Alexander who started there from 2012-2015. Alexander was a 4 star recruit and rated 167 by ESPN coming out of high school. So we now know that the market price of a player in that range is $167k.

Not surprising, lots of rumors of SEC schools paying players among other things

Don't kid yourself thinking this is limited to the SEC.  

Weekend Summary

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Yes, the playoff committee is breathing a sigh of relief, for now. It appeared that they had to make a tough choice of an unbeaten Oklahoma over a one loss Alabama or LSU. Not anymore as OU went to the Little Apple and got upset by KState 48-41. The Wildcats were the more physical team and raced out to a 48-23 lead. The Sooners have that winner's mindset and came back to make it a one score game late, and they appeared to recover an onside kick, but it was correctly reversed to seal their upset. OU needs a lot of help now.

We were treated to an old fashioned SEC slugfest, the kind of game Auburn likes to play. The Tigers, of the Plains variety, visited the Tigers, of the Bayou variety, in Death Valley. Auburn's DL harassed LSU QB Joe Burrow (first time this season for him) and that resulted in a narrow 23-20 LSU win. Burrow proved that he can win a game using his feet and intangibles, making key run after key run to keep drives alive. And Bo Nix, the prodigy Auburn QB, just does not quit . He is wildly inaccurate in big games, but always seems to make a play late. Auburn scored a late TD, and had their hands on the onside kick attempt, but LSU recovered and held on.

I wanted to watch some football last night, but no game was close. I was switching channels, but always seemed to go to baseball and Tiger Woods. For the first time in Nick Saban's tenure in T-town, he had to start a backup QB. Mac Jones executed a modest game plan and Bama swamped a bad Arkansas team. Clemson may be rounding into form as they boat raced BC 59-7. The khaki man finally got him a top ten win as Michigan was just flat out more physical than Notre Dame 45-14 in a downpour. No talk of ND in the playoff anymore.

So here is where we are, there are five teams for four slots. Both Bama and LSU, providing the winner beats the Florida/Georgia winner in the SEC Title Game, may well have two slots locked up. That is if the loser of that game goes unbeaten, and yes I know Auburn is capable of beating Bama. The Ohio St/Penn St winner should be the other one. However, Penn St plays unbeaten Minnesota next week so we may have to wait a week or so on that one. And then there, as always,  is Clemson, who should breeze their way in.

 This is what I meant by my opening statement. The same teams are there, particularly Alabama and Clemson. The only caveat is that neither team has played anyone good, but that will change shortly for the Tide. 

thistlintom posted:

Glad to see Michigan’s game coming around with a dominating performance.  We will see if the have really turned the corner with the game against MSU.  Man was it pouring in the first half!

Harbaugh finally gets another  Top 10 win (he was 1-10 previously), although ND is/was highly overrated.  I love that it gives Xichigan fans some hope, like they really have a decent team and coach.  Hope Harbaugh stays there forever.

This is the most dominant Ohio State team I've seen in a long time.  Chase Young is the best player in college football.  The main concern is lack of depth at QB, so hoping Fields stays healthy all season.  

patespo1 posted:
thistlintom posted:

Glad to see Michigan’s game coming around with a dominating performance.  We will see if the have really turned the corner with the game against MSU.  Man was it pouring in the first half!

Harbaugh finally gets another  Top 10 win (he was 1-10 previously), although ND is/was highly overrated.  I love that it gives Xichigan fans some hope, like they really have a decent team and coach.  Hope Harbaugh stays there forever.

This is the most dominant Ohio State team I've seen in a long time.  Chase Young is the best player in college football.  The main concern is lack of depth at QB, so hoping Fields stays healthy all season.  

I think you may be correct. tOSU have been extremely impressive thus far. 

 

ND was no where near as good this year as last year. They got their ass handed to them. Still, for the life of me I don't understand why Kelly continues to call games in driving rain storms the same way he does on sunny days. Baffling.

I was not impressed with Michigan. OSU wins by 30.

So we are looking at paying college athletes for using their image or  being an outstanding athlete instead of just providing them with a free college education and stipends for living expenses.  Instead of going down this path, it would make much more sense for the NFL to set up a minor league pro system that would take kids out of high school and pay them to play and develop them into pro athletes.  This is not uncommon as it is offered in other sports.  College football has been corrupted by all the money in it and it would only get worse when paying athletes for attending school  Let's return it back to what it should be and make it truly for student athletes.  If you want money or don't want to get an education, go to the minor league.  If you want a free education, go to college and maybe turn pro if you develop into an NFL calibre player.

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