I do not know if many of the old participants are still out there, but hopefully we can draw them back for our usual passionate discussion of college football. Quoting my new favorite singer Luke Combs "if you are not fired up for football season then something is wrong with you". He also has a line in a song that "like diamond rings and football teams have torn this boy apart". It is an emotional sport for sure.

Unfortunately for fans of other teams, the same three schools are at the top, primarily due to their huge recruiting hauls. Clemson, Alabama and Georgia simply have rosters above everyone else. I look for two of these three to play for it all again next January.

There are intriguing stories elsewhere who could rise to playoff status:

Oklahoma - Lincoln Riley has another senior transfer QB in Jalen Hurts (Bama). Remember that Riley has coached the last two Heisman winners in Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray, both transfers. If Hurts rises to this level of play, the Sooners will be in the playoff.

Ohio State - the Buckeyes have former #1 recruit QB Justin Fields from Georgia, but he is not a proven commodity to date. They still have talent, but it remains to be seen if Ryan Day can coach at a high level.

Michigan - Jim Harbaugh pretty much better beat Ohio St this year or the Wolverine fan base will be on him. While he also has a nice roster, I do not get the pre-season love for this team.

LSU - transfer QB Joe Burrow (seeing a trend here) is in his second year, and the Bengal Tigers are sensing a big year. However, their schedule is brutal and they still have Coach O at the helm. Wild card team here.

Florida - the Gators still have not obtained an elite roster (very good but far from great) and lost too many key recruits in the offseason. However, Dan Mullen is using the transfer portal well so there is a shot. Their season's result is simple, can Felipe Franks play like he did at the end of last year, or improve, and will the young OL produce. If so, they can have a good year.

Oregon - the Ducks are emerging as a recruiting power and the Pac 12 needs a playoff team desperately. It may come down to senior QB Justin Herbert. Their first game against Auburn (the ultimate wild card team every year) will tell us a lot.

Finally, prayers granted for Texas A&M and South Carolina. Both have Alabama, Georgia and Clemson on their schedule.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ok it was Week 0 and that's the quality of game we got. The scoreboard says the Gators won 24-20 but I still do not believe it. Give Miami credit for putting up a very good fight, but let's face it, this was a game both teams deserved to lose.

I thought that Feleipe Franks had turned the corner as a QB, expecting a big year, but what we got was the same erratic, showboating, frustrating guy. He is a very difficult guy to support even if he is on my team. He did make enough plays to win the game, but he threw one of the dumbest interceptions ever. The facial expression of Steve Spurrier said it all there.

Miami had a nice game plan allowing young QB Jarren Williams (he is going to be good) a chance to make plays despite his young OL. Their wildcat with DJ Dallas worked great especially since the Gators decided not to tackle him. The Canes also had the ball bouncing their way, recovering every fumble and having both tipped pass in their favor (TD and int). However, the Gators pass rush won this game, even after Miami had the last eight minutes to score (longest eight minutes ever).

The Gators better improve or it is a 7-5 year. Specifically, the interior OL needs a push for the running game, the receivers need to get separation, the DBs need to live up to their reputations and Franks (help us here) needs to mature.

 

 

 

 

Weekend Summary

It was week one, but it felt like mid-season, playing golf, cooking steaks, drinking beer/White Claw/wine and watching college football with my son.

We got a classic to start the season in Jerry World. Oregon came out fast grabbing a lead on Auburn and definitely left precious points on the table early. These Ducks are different and I think that they will be a force going forward, solid team. However, the perpetual roller coaster that is Gus Bus ball rallied for a last second wind. Frosh QB Bo Nix played like one, but he never quit and delivered two great passes when it counted, something very hard to teach. As one of my favorite bloggers said "Auburn kept punching the ATM machine and money finally came out".

At the top, it looks like business as usual. Clemson, Georgia, Bama and Ohio St all won easily. I still think Clemson and Georgia are the best. Bama had trouble running the ball on Duke on short yardage and they lost their best LB, Dylan Moses, for the season. Georgia transfer Justin Fields lit it up for Ohio St.

Let's call this hot seat central:

Charlie Strong - South Florida gets rolled by Wisconsin 49-0 in Tampa. Good man but it seems to be falling apart.

Willie Taggart - FSU starts strong then collapses for a crushing loss. Please keep him.

Will Muschamp - always plays not to lose and then always loses. Great defensive assistant but not a head coach. Although Mack Brown is back making NC respectable, he still made his usual dumb decision taking a knee with time still on the clock.

Matt Luke - Ole Miss loses to a good Memphis team but he was a compromise choice.

Chip Kelly - UCLA losing and offense is boring. Bad fit and thankfully Gators did not hire him.

Jeremy Pruitt - loses to 2-10 Ga State in Neyland getting dominated on both lines. Could be another Muschamp, good defensive coach not fit for head job.

The question is, which of these school presidents will hold their nose, sell their soul, and hire Hugh Freeze (who coached from a hospital bed yesterday).

 

 

 

 

 

 

Happy to beat the Ducks again on a final drive. Auburn is going to be a wild ride this year.

Agree on your Hot Seat list SCbeerman, with Kelly and Taggart being the biggest towers to likely fall. Although, the buyouts may keep them around. FSU has only blown 18 point leads twice and both of those occurred under Taggart. Boise St ran 108 plays while controlling the ball for 40 minutes. Ouch!   

SC thanks for the summaries, they will keep me coming back to the Forums.  

Didn't watch THE Ohio State game as I was out golfing, but from the highlights Fields looks like he is going to be pretty dynamic.  Granted it was against FAU, but a nice way to start the season (52 yard TD on his 2nd play from scrimmage!).  

My Miami (OH) Redhawks fell to a pretty good Iowa team, they kept it close early but then it got out of hand.

Jalen Hurts looked great for Oklahoma, will they be able to stop a team when it counts though.  

Fun first weekend. 

I don't really follow college football, but I do note that U of Maryland is now 2-0, having scored 79 points in their first game and 63 yesterday.  Yesterday they knocked off a ranked team (Syracuse #21) by scoring 6 touchdowns in the first half.

 

Weekend Summary

As for missing my calling, maybe, but beer pays better. This is just for fun as is my Instagram. Just ask W2A for my handle (his is really good as well). It is golf, food and landmarks.

Early in the season so it is hard to get a handle on everything. To me, there are six teams with a chance at the whole thing so we start there. Clemson faced a Texas A&M team that gave them a game last year, but the Aggies had to make a trip to Upstate SC. The Tigers were not flashy, just methodical, in a 24-10 win. Dabo always brings his teams to a peak, and they have a schedule which allows them that luxury. Georgia and Bama handled outmatched opponents, nothing remarkable there.

Now onto the three teams which are better than I thought pre-season. The formula is simple for Lincoln Riley, take a good transfer QB and make him a Heisman winner and #1 pick. Jalen Hurts has adapted well thus far, and is putting up superior numbers at this point to Mayfield and Murray. The Sooner defense, while maybe not dominant, may be good enough to get it done this year. Georgia transfer and former #1 recruit Justin Fields looks to be for real as well. I thought that OSU would dip a bit under Ryan Day, but maybe not. The Bucks dominated a decent Cincinnati team. LSU visited Austin and played a Big 12 type game, outlasting Texas 45-38. Transfer QB joe Burrow (seeing the pattern here) looked the best of any LSU QB in recent memory. All three of these teams are serious playoff contenders.  

Now for a few teams under the radar who could be better than we think. Wisconsin can score points. So can Maryland. Both can be factors in the Big 10. Mack Brown has revived NC with frosh QB Sam Howell. Wake Forest can score points but we will see if they can play against teams with big lines. NC plays Wake next week.

And for the ones who are a bit less than expected. Michigan was fortunate to beat Army, to be fair so was OU last year, and Shea Patterson better start throwing better. Jim Harbaugh is annoying enough, and if he does not win the Big 10 this year it may be back to the NFL. I still think Scott Frost will do ok at Nebraska, but they are not a real threat to win the Big 10.

And finally, a few things that are already trite this season. One, Aussie punters who are 30 years old, Two, announcers saying if you know you are going for it on 4th down it affects the 3rd down call (duh). Three, the term complimentary football (meaning a slow tempo offense helps your defense).

 

 

Mike Locksley is proving to be quite the enigma as an offense minded coach. As the OC at Bama for just 1yr, he changed their approach to a more wide open offense and set a lot of school records. Or was it mostly Tua? The early, high scoring success at Maryland suggests he's got a mind for the game.

Weekend Summary

Always good to hear from my biggest booster, making me appear better than I really am. Sorry for the tardiness, but a round of golf and a bit of boredom is in play here.

It was an extremely uneventful weekend, even for this crazy game. My two teams were involved with two of the most compelling games. On Friday night, Mack Brown brought his improved Tar Heels to Winston-Salem to face another 2-0 team in Wake Forest. The Deacs ran out to a 21 point lead before hanging on for a six point win (although NC probably should have been granted a final play). Do not laugh, but Wake has a chance at a 9 or 10 win season providing their depth does not do them in. The Gators visited the bluegrass to face a Kentucky team which broke a 31 year streak last year. The Wildcats dominated both lines of scrimmage to gain a 21-10 lead, and then injured Florida QB Feleipe Franks (out for year and maybe more) on a 4th down play. The Gators then stuffed a 4th down play of their own and sent out career backup Kyle Trask who proceeded to lead two TD drives for a 1 point lead. The Cats drove down but missed a chip shot FG (Gators then got a tack on TD) to give Florida its second win that was improbable.

As for the national scene, the only ranked teams to lose were Maryland (come on man its Temple), Michigan State and So Cal. The top teams cruised although SCar played Alabama surprisingly close in the first half (typical Muschamp team making dumb errors). Bama can throw to those four racehorse WRs, but their lack of running game makes then vulnerable.

The SEC has 5 of the top 9 teams, making their champ likely to have a loss but still making the playoff. Clemson and Oklahoma look to have clear paths to the playoff (OU surely beats Texas this year). Ohio State is the class of the Big Ten. While the Pac 12 has 6 ranked teams, Utah is the highest ranked at 10 and most are in the lower half. The wildcard is always Notre Dame, and they travel "tween the hedges" next week to face Georgia, so we get read on those two teams. I think there are two other contests with both teams ranked, maybe in the SEC. The focus will become a bit clearer, and remember that the upset weekend will occur when we least expect it.

 

 

 

scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

Always good to hear from my biggest booster, making me appear better than I really am. Sorry for the tardiness, but a round of golf and a bit of boredom is in play here.

It was an extremely uneventful weekend, even for this crazy game. My two teams were involved with two of the most compelling games. On Friday night, Mack Brown brought his improved Tar Heels to Winston-Salem to face another 2-0 team in Wake Forest. The Deacs ran out to a 21 point lead before hanging on for a six point win (although NC probably should have been granted a final play). Do not laugh, but Wake has a chance at a 9 or 10 win season providing their depth does not do them in. The Gators visited the bluegrass to face a Kentucky team which broke a 31 year streak last year. The Wildcats dominated both lines of scrimmage to gain a 21-10 lead, and then injured Florida QB Feleipe Franks (out for year and maybe more) on a 4th down play. The Gators then stuffed a 4th down play of their own and sent out career backup Kyle Trask who proceeded to lead two TD drives for a 1 point lead. The Cats drove down but missed a chip shot FG (Gators then got a tack on TD) to give Florida its second win that was improbable.

As for the national scene, the only ranked teams to lose were Maryland (come on man its Temple), Michigan State and So Cal. The top teams cruised although SCar played Alabama surprisingly close in the first half (typical Muschamp team making dumb errors). Bama can throw to those four racehorse WRs, but their lack of running game makes then vulnerable.

The SEC has 5 of the top 9 teams, making their champ likely to have a loss but still making the playoff. Clemson and Oklahoma look to have clear paths to the playoff (OU surely beats Texas this year). Ohio State is the class of the Big Ten. While the Pac 12 has 6 ranked teams, Utah is the highest ranked at 10 and most are in the lower half. The wildcard is always Notre Dame, and they travel "tween the hedges" next week to face Georgia, so we get read on those two teams. I think there are two other contests with both teams ranked, maybe in the SEC. The focus will become a bit clearer, and remember that the upset weekend will occur when we least expect it.

 

 

 

So is Kyle Trask an upgrade or downgrade?  

greendrazi posted:

Mike Locksley is proving to be quite the enigma as an offense minded coach. As the OC at Bama for just 1yr, he changed their approach to a more wide open offense and set a lot of school records. Or was it mostly Tua? The early, high scoring success at Maryland suggests he's got a mind for the game.

.. or not.

greendrazi posted:
scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

Always good to hear from my biggest booster, making me appear better than I really am. Sorry for the tardiness, but a round of golf and a bit of boredom is in play here.

It was an extremely uneventful weekend, even for this crazy game. My two teams were involved with two of the most compelling games. On Friday night, Mack Brown brought his improved Tar Heels to Winston-Salem to face another 2-0 team in Wake Forest. The Deacs ran out to a 21 point lead before hanging on for a six point win (although NC probably should have been granted a final play). Do not laugh, but Wake has a chance at a 9 or 10 win season providing their depth does not do them in. The Gators visited the bluegrass to face a Kentucky team which broke a 31 year streak last year. The Wildcats dominated both lines of scrimmage to gain a 21-10 lead, and then injured Florida QB Feleipe Franks (out for year and maybe more) on a 4th down play. The Gators then stuffed a 4th down play of their own and sent out career backup Kyle Trask who proceeded to lead two TD drives for a 1 point lead. The Cats drove down but missed a chip shot FG (Gators then got a tack on TD) to give Florida its second win that was improbable.

As for the national scene, the only ranked teams to lose were Maryland (come on man its Temple), Michigan State and So Cal. The top teams cruised although SCar played Alabama surprisingly close in the first half (typical Muschamp team making dumb errors). Bama can throw to those four racehorse WRs, but their lack of running game makes then vulnerable.

The SEC has 5 of the top 9 teams, making their champ likely to have a loss but still making the playoff. Clemson and Oklahoma look to have clear paths to the playoff (OU surely beats Texas this year). Ohio State is the class of the Big Ten. While the Pac 12 has 6 ranked teams, Utah is the highest ranked at 10 and most are in the lower half. The wildcard is always Notre Dame, and they travel "tween the hedges" next week to face Georgia, so we get read on those two teams. I think there are two other contests with both teams ranked, maybe in the SEC. The focus will become a bit clearer, and remember that the upset weekend will occur when we least expect it.

 

 

 

So is Kyle Trask an upgrade or downgrade?  

He can't really completely run Mullin's offense, but he's a better pure passer than Franks.  With the Gators' being unable to run the ball thus far this season, he might actually help...but I also expect to see Emory Jones more this year as well, which opens up Mullen's entire playbook

Its hard to say on Trask. Per message boards and a Coach Spurrier podcast, Trask gets the ball out faster and probably reads defenses a bit better than Franks. However, he cannot make all of the throws that Franks can and will run less. Without threat of the run from Trask, you may see more pressure on him which would lead to more draws, screens etc.Pinot is correct as Emory Jones will play some as a change of pace. Whoever is in there at QB, the young offensive line needs to improve their run blocking.

Weekend Summary

Vegas edition - saw Aerosmith last night and still have the iconic voice of Steven Tyler and guitar playing of Joe Perry in my head, so we will "walk this way" and proceed. For being out of town I got to watch a surprising amount of football. There were three notable games so we start there.

Jim Harbaugh attracts attention everywhere and not always positive. His antics energize his own fan bases and irritate the others. Problem is, when you cannot win a statement game, it wears thin. Michigan rolled into Camp Randall and subsequently got rolled by a good Wisconsin team 35-14. The Badgers raced out to a 35 point lead under Heisman candidate RB Jonathan Taylor never looking back. This was a statement win putting Wisconsin in the playoff talk. As for Captain Khaki, I am guessing his agent is reaching out to all of the 0-2 NFL teams as the end has to be near in Ann Arbor (other than running the table).

The Men of the Plains visited Aggieland and JImbo Fisher. Auburn, the ultimate wild card, dominated early with the run for a statement 28-20 win. While A&M had some chances, it was clear Auburn was the better team. They can wreak havoc going forward and with only one loss, make the SEC game in Atlanta. Gus Malzahn wins just when he is about to be run out of town.

Notre Dame went down "tween the hedges" to play them Dawgs, and no one gave them a chance. They held a 10-7 halftime lead, went down 23-10, scored a late TD and had a chance at the end for a 23-17 final. Georgia is loaded, but may be too conservative and they may not be quite as good as thought. Or ND may be better than we thought. Either way, the Irish will need some help in making the playoff.

The rest of the powers cruised. Florida backup Kyle Trask did just fine in his first start since 9th grade (read his story in the Atlantic you will like this guy no matter who you pull for) in beating a bad Tennessee team 34-3. I bet the Gators and the under winning two bets. Florida has a gauntlet of Auburn, LSU and Georgia in October, and they will have to play perfect to win any one of those games.

As for the outsiders crashing the playoff party, ND may be out since they may not have a quality opponent left on their schedule. Utah was the Pac 12's best hope, and they lost to SCal. UCF lost their first regular season game in three years as Pitt ran the "Philly special" to edge them 35-34. Thankfully, no more UCF playoff talk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good day for CFB. Having beat UCF, Pitt is now the national champs. Khaki-pants is Michigan’s “forever coach” - until the Detroit Lions call. ND still wasn’t physical enough at the line, but if the other playoff contenders drop a game, the fanbase will put them back in the picture. UCLA vs Wash St 67-63 is evidence the college game is turning into arena football.

And Auburn is now 4-0 at Kyle field. 

scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

Vegas edition - saw Aerosmith last night and still have the iconic voice of Steven Tyler and guitar playing of Joe Perry in my head, so we will "walk this way" and proceed. For being out of town I got to watch a surprising amount of football. There were three notable games so we start there.

Jim Harbaugh attracts attention everywhere and not always positive. His antics energize his own fan bases and irritate the others. Problem is, when you cannot win a statement game, it wears thin. Michigan rolled into Camp Randall and subsequently got rolled by a good Wisconsin team 35-14. The Badgers raced out to a 35 point lead under Heisman candidate RB Jonathan Taylor never looking back. This was a statement win putting Wisconsin in the playoff talk. As for Captain Khaki, I am guessing his agent is reaching out to all of the 0-2 NFL teams as the end has to be near in Ann Arbor (other than running the table).

The Men of the Plains visited Aggieland and JImbo Fisher. Auburn, the ultimate wild card, dominated early with the run for a statement 28-20 win. While A&M had some chances, it was clear Auburn was the better team. They can wreak havoc going forward and with only one loss, make the SEC game in Atlanta. Gus Malzahn wins just when he is about to be run out of town.

Notre Dame went down "tween the hedges" to play them Dawgs, and no one gave them a chance. They held a 10-7 halftime lead, went down 23-10, scored a late TD and had a chance at the end for a 23-17 final. Georgia is loaded, but may be too conservative and they may not be quite as good as thought. Or ND may be better than we thought. Either way, the Irish will need some help in making the playoff.

The rest of the powers cruised. Florida backup Kyle Trask did just fine in his first start since 9th grade (read his story in the Atlantic you will like this guy no matter who you pull for) in beating a bad Tennessee team 34-3. I bet the Gators and the under winning two bets. Florida has a gauntlet of Auburn, LSU and Georgia in October, and they will have to play perfect to win any one of those games.

As for the outsiders crashing the playoff party, ND may be out since they may not have a quality opponent left on their schedule. Utah was the Pac 12's best hope, and they lost to SCal. UCF lost their first regular season game in three years as Pitt ran the "Philly special" to edge them 35-34. Thankfully, no more UCF playoff talk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wonderful summary as always. 

I’m in Maui but did see some football as it starts at 6:00 am here.😎.  I heard Harbaugh has NEVER won a game at Michigan where he was an underdog. Ever. He is the only coach of a Power 5 conference team that can make that statement.

 

greendrazi posted:

Good day for CFB. Having beat UCF, Pitt is now the national champs. Khaki-pants is Michigan’s “forever coach” - until the Detroit Lions call. ND still wasn’t physical enough at the line, but if the other playoff contenders drop a game, the fanbase will put them back in the picture. UCLA vs Wash St 67-63 is evidence the college game is turning into arena football.

And Auburn is now 4-0 at Kyle field. 

Auburn 4-0 at College Station. Wow. 

One on the things I hate about the SEC is how seldom some teams play each other in their own damn conference. I have a friend that is a bulldog. I told him to go to an Aggie game when they play Georgia. Well, that has still never happened yet and is still a couple of years away I think. Never. Dumb. 

csm posted:
jburman82 posted:

Didn't Michigan give Harbaugh a lifetime contract?

The rest of the Big Ten sure hopes so. 

Joe Staley has the best commentary ever about Harbaugh, delivered directly to him on the sideline and easy for even the most basic lip reader to translate: "Shut up you fucking idiot."

csm posted:
jburman82 posted:

Didn't Michigan give Harbaugh a lifetime contract?

The rest of the Big Ten sure hopes so. 

I can tell you everyone in the State of Ohio hope he stays for life.  Guy is a straight fraud.

My Alma Mater Miami (OH) only lost by 71 points this weekend...

As much as I hate Notre Dame, have to give them a ton of credit for competing like they did against Georgia.  I for one thought they would get blown out.  

Awesome summary SC, I say Aerosmith in the early '90s and 'Dream On' remains one of the best live songs I've experienced.  

Weekend Summary

Yes, watching an iconic band sing their iconic song is as good as it gets. Dream On is a special song for sure.

Usually a theme is obvious every week but I am struggling to find one. Despite some nice intersectional games, the season has gone as expected, chalk per se. While it may have always been that way, the recruiting advantage of a few schools has made it where the same teams are on top. This is even though my team, the Gators, are 5-0 and in the top ten, but I am not booking any rooms in Atlanta or in the playoff cities.

We almost got that major upset yesterday. Clemson visited Chapel Hill, a place where they have never won a basketball game ever (look it up) to face a 28 point underdog. Kenan Stadium is a beautiful venue, set beneath the Carolina pines, and Mack Brown is making it relevant again. The Tar Heels scored on the first possession and had it tied 14 all at the half. After failing to convert a 4th and one at midfield, Trevor Lawrence hit Tee Higgins for the score for a 7 point lead. NC then made a long inexorable march of 8 minutes down the field, converting maybe two 4th downs, to score with about a minute left. I told my son at the five minute mark that Mack would go for two, he did, but did not make it. I applaud him for playing to win. Clemson survived 21-20 for a 20 game winning streak (soon to be a lot more), but may move down in the polls.

Ohio St is really good. Gameday was in Lincoln trying to remind us of the glory days of Cornhusker football, but not yesterday. Transfer QB and former #1 recruit Justin Fields has the Buckeye offense in full throttle mode in an easy win. How Fields got a waiver to play this year is a mystery (some guy calls him a name from the stands), but OSU is thankful. Oklahoma is also good piling up points on Texas Tech. The other big name transfer QB, Jalen Hurts (who graduated at Bama so no questions here) is merely fulfilling the Lincoln Riley formula. Both of these QBs payed in the SEC Title Game last year so the irony of them meeting in a playoff game elsewhere is noted.

These are the teams most likely to make the playoff outside the SEC. Maybe Notre Dame (better than you think), Wisconsin, Iowa or Penn State are the exceptions. The top half of the SEC is loaded. Bama is Bama except they are all offense with Tua tossing it to his multiple "frisbee catching dogs" (Mark Packer phrase) for loads of points. LSU can now score as well. Remember the 9-6 Bama-LSU game in 2011. Well, this year is may be 63-60 as times have changed. Then you have Georgia playing the traditional game of big line, ball control and timely passing. Finally, Auburn has found a running game and a gutsy frosh QB and they may actually win the SEC West. I am going to the game in Gainesville next week to watch a rivalry that never should have gone away. Florida/Auburn games are some of the best games of my lifetime.

 

Adding on to the discussion.

According to ESPN, Florida has the toughest schedule going forward which is a main reason that there are no expectations of a huge season. Ohio St is 19, Oklahoma 35th and Clemson 58th. Would the committee dare taking two one loss teams from the SEC over a conference champ?

scbeerman posted:

Adding on to the discussion.

According to ESPN, Florida has the toughest schedule going forward which is a main reason that there are no expectations of a huge season. Ohio St is 19, Oklahoma 35th and Clemson 58th. Would the committee dare taking two one loss teams from the SEC over a conference champ?

I think it depends on the team . No way Ohio State or Oklahoma get passed over. 

Thus far, as boring of a college football season as I can recall in many years. That said, college football is the best. 

scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

Yes, watching an iconic band sing their iconic song is as good as it gets. Dream On is a special song for sure.

Usually a theme is obvious every week but I am struggling to find one. Despite some nice intersectional games, the season has gone as expected, chalk per se. While it may have always been that way, the recruiting advantage of a few schools has made it where the same teams are on top. This is even though my team, the Gators, are 5-0 and in the top ten, but I am not booking any rooms in Atlanta or in the playoff cities.

We almost got that major upset yesterday. Clemson visited Chapel Hill, a place where they have never won a basketball game ever (look it up) to face a 28 point underdog. Kenan Stadium is a beautiful venue, set beneath the Carolina pines, and Mack Brown is making it relevant again. The Tar Heels scored on the first possession and had it tied 14 all at the half. After failing to convert a 4th and one at midfield, Trevor Lawrence hit Tee Higgins for the score for a 7 point lead. NC then made a long inexorable march of 8 minutes down the field, converting maybe two 4th downs, to score with about a minute left. I told my son at the five minute mark that Mack would go for two, he did, but did not make it. I applaud him for playing to win. Clemson survived 21-20 for a 20 game winning streak (soon to be a lot more), but may move down in the polls.

Ohio St is really good. Gameday was in Lincoln trying to remind us of the glory days of Cornhusker football, but not yesterday. Transfer QB and former #1 recruit Justin Fields has the Buckeye offense in full throttle mode in an easy win. How Fields got a waiver to play this year is a mystery (some guy calls him a name from the stands), but OSU is thankful. Oklahoma is also good piling up points on Texas Tech. The other big name transfer QB, Jalen Hurts (who graduated at Bama so no questions here) is merely fulfilling the Lincoln Riley formula. Both of these QBs payed in the SEC Title Game last year so the irony of them meeting in a playoff game elsewhere is noted.

These are the teams most likely to make the playoff outside the SEC. Maybe Notre Dame (better than you think), Wisconsin, Iowa or Penn State are the exceptions. The top half of the SEC is loaded. Bama is Bama except they are all offense with Tua tossing it to his multiple "frisbee catching dogs" (Mark Packer phrase) for loads of points. LSU can now score as well. Remember the 9-6 Bama-LSU game in 2011. Well, this year is may be 63-60 as times have changed. Then you have Georgia playing the traditional game of big line, ball control and timely passing. Finally, Auburn has found a running game and a gutsy frosh QB and they may actually win the SEC West. I am going to the game in Gainesville next week to watch a rivalry that never should have gone away. Florida/Auburn games are some of the best games of my lifetime.

 

As always, thanks for the fine post.

I’m surprised there has not been more debate/ discussion about Fields being a better QB than Fromm. 

 

wineart 2 posted:
scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

Yes, watching an iconic band sing their iconic song is as good as it gets. Dream On is a special song for sure.

Usually a theme is obvious every week but I am struggling to find one. Despite some nice intersectional games, the season has gone as expected, chalk per se. While it may have always been that way, the recruiting advantage of a few schools has made it where the same teams are on top. This is even though my team, the Gators, are 5-0 and in the top ten, but I am not booking any rooms in Atlanta or in the playoff cities.

We almost got that major upset yesterday. Clemson visited Chapel Hill, a place where they have never won a basketball game ever (look it up) to face a 28 point underdog. Kenan Stadium is a beautiful venue, set beneath the Carolina pines, and Mack Brown is making it relevant again. The Tar Heels scored on the first possession and had it tied 14 all at the half. After failing to convert a 4th and one at midfield, Trevor Lawrence hit Tee Higgins for the score for a 7 point lead. NC then made a long inexorable march of 8 minutes down the field, converting maybe two 4th downs, to score with about a minute left. I told my son at the five minute mark that Mack would go for two, he did, but did not make it. I applaud him for playing to win. Clemson survived 21-20 for a 20 game winning streak (soon to be a lot more), but may move down in the polls.

Ohio St is really good. Gameday was in Lincoln trying to remind us of the glory days of Cornhusker football, but not yesterday. Transfer QB and former #1 recruit Justin Fields has the Buckeye offense in full throttle mode in an easy win. How Fields got a waiver to play this year is a mystery (some guy calls him a name from the stands), but OSU is thankful. Oklahoma is also good piling up points on Texas Tech. The other big name transfer QB, Jalen Hurts (who graduated at Bama so no questions here) is merely fulfilling the Lincoln Riley formula. Both of these QBs payed in the SEC Title Game last year so the irony of them meeting in a playoff game elsewhere is noted.

These are the teams most likely to make the playoff outside the SEC. Maybe Notre Dame (better than you think), Wisconsin, Iowa or Penn State are the exceptions. The top half of the SEC is loaded. Bama is Bama except they are all offense with Tua tossing it to his multiple "frisbee catching dogs" (Mark Packer phrase) for loads of points. LSU can now score as well. Remember the 9-6 Bama-LSU game in 2011. Well, this year is may be 63-60 as times have changed. Then you have Georgia playing the traditional game of big line, ball control and timely passing. Finally, Auburn has found a running game and a gutsy frosh QB and they may actually win the SEC West. I am going to the game in Gainesville next week to watch a rivalry that never should have gone away. Florida/Auburn games are some of the best games of my lifetime.

 

As always, thanks for the fine post.

I’m surprised there has not been more debate/ discussion about Fields being a better QB than Fromm. 

 

I’m not surprised. Kirby’s game philosophy is the same as Saban’s when he was still the DC there. Which is to say that he wants a “game manager” at QB and Fromm had already proven that ability by getting them to the Natty in his first year.

thistlintom posted:
csm posted:

SC depends on the record of the conference champ I think.  Undefeated conference champ, I don’t think so. 1 los conference champ, possible, perhaps even likely.  

Clearly, we need an 8 team playoff. 

Yes!

+1, firmly in the 8 team playoff camp.

The two biggest questions for OSU coming into the season were Fields and new HC Ryan Day.  So far both proving they're worth the hype.  This is Ohio St's best receiving core maybe ever, and will get even better next year when Julian Fleming (#1 receiver in the nation) joins the team.  Paired with true freshman Garrett Wilson, they'll put on a show. 

Buckeyes need to avoid the mid season stumble they've had the last few years, but Ryan Day so far has not let the foot off of the gas.  

Meanwhile, Xichigan fans are celebrating a shutout win over perennial loser Rutgers...

I think the most compelling playoff matchups would be Tua versus Hurts and Fields versus Fromm.  I just don't see Clemson being left out of the playoffs unless they have another meltdown and actually lose a game.  The level of competition in the ACC is particularly bad this year.

i saw Aerosmith at the Prudential Center in Newark, and NJ native Darryl DMC McDaniels came out and sang Walk this Way with Steven Tyler which was pretty special.

Nice discussion going.

Agree that Ohio St and Oklahoma are easily in if unbeaten. 

The Fields thing is interesting. JB is spot on with his assessment. While Kirby is clearly comfortable with his ball control QB in Fromm, a modern day Bob Griese if you will, Dabo and Saban went a different direction. Dabo had a reasonably good starter in Kelly Bryant but went with frosh superstar Trevor Lawrence and won it all. He probably could have reached the title game last year with Bryant, but he knew he needed Lawrence to beat Bama. Saban replaced Jalen Hurts with Tua in the 2017 title game, started Tua all last year, then went to Hurts to win the SEC title game. Now Tua starts and Hurts is at OU. The best way may be to be coached by Lincoln Riley, who seemingly can make a superstar with any QB. There is no simple way, and while Kirby could use some game day skills, I cannot fault him with sticking with Fromm.

I like Fromm. He is good. However, Fields was clearly more dynamic since high school. 

I mock my UF  friends about the talent UGA has and say it doesn't matter that Mullen is a good coach since he is Uncle Eddie on the recruiting trail. UF wont sniff a SEC East title for a while. They come back with Smart isnt really that smart. When he does stuff like run off Fields its hard to disagree. 

Can Riley recruit and develop his own QB? That's a question whispered in the ear of every high school QB in the country.

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