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scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

Ohio St easily beat Northwestern.

Unfortunately, I was at this game.  Final score 52-3, but it wasn't that close. 

I was able to convince my wife to leave at halftime, and we were home by the end of the game.  My son in law and his family are from Ohio and they all came in for the game - they were happy at the outcome, but a bit bummed out by the Illinois win over Wisconsin as it takes away from what was to be a big game this coming weekend.  The high-lite of the evening was definitely the tailgate.  

I saw this article last week about it being time for Florida fans to embrace Urban Meyer and what he accomplished while head coach at Florida

https://www.orlandosentinel.co...jvqhau7re-story.html

I have an open mind, since time does heal old wounds...and now that Meyer is no longer at OSU...and with his former OC Mullen as our coach...I'm ok welcoming him back.....as long as....

https://247sports.com/college/...-is-fired-137327773/

This never materializes.  

 

There is a lot more to think about than just we lost to Wake, screw this. Firing him now would set this program back 5 years. Its a small sample so far but we are seeing the early signing period is killing first year coach's classes. They get stuck with kids they may not want or don't fit their scheme and the "high star" kids they do get are only available because other teams who have been in on them backed off or don't value them as highly as their stars suggest. To do this twice in three years would be roster suicide. Its also incredibly unfair to fire a coach after one real recruiting class.

 

Never mind what coach in their right mind would walk into this program right now. APR number is a disaster since Jimbo didn't make kids go to class so you cant purge the roster of kids you don't want. (this has affected Willie too). University Pres, AD and Booster Pres are all retiring next year so the people who hired you wont be here to protect you. 

 

FSU has serious money problems. We were an all girls school for a long time. Law school wasn't founded until 1966, Medical school wasn't founded until 2000. We don't have a big donor base. Here's a fun stat. FSU has 14 people who donate more than $25K per year. UGA has 38 people who donate an average of $200K over a five year span and 1150 people who donate $25k. We are way behind in TV money too because our network is just getting started. After dropping the requisite $30M-$40M on outgoing and incoming buyouts, the football budget will be destroyed. Our scholarships aren't even endowed for god's sake.

 

Willie gets 3 years. It will at least give him time to set a nice floor for the roster for whoever comes next and will take about $7M off that buyout number. Hopefully with some new OL he can put together a nice season next year and this becomes moot. Im not sure he can but I do believe he deserves the chance.

Only win 4 games and this all goes out the window. Fire him.

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Just saw an article where a former foundation head in Louisiana was sentenced to 33 months in prison for money laundering, wire fraud etc. He was apparently a very careless bagman as $167,000 of his embezzlement was directed to the father of former LSU OL Vadal Alexander who started there from 2012-2015. Alexander was a 4 star recruit and rated 167 by ESPN coming out of high school. So we now know that the market price of a player in that range is $167k.

scbeerman posted:

Just saw an article where a former foundation head in Louisiana was sentenced to 33 months in prison for money laundering, wire fraud etc. He was apparently a very careless bagman as $167,000 of his embezzlement was directed to the father of former LSU OL Vadal Alexander who started there from 2012-2015. Alexander was a 4 star recruit and rated 167 by ESPN coming out of high school. So we now know that the market price of a player in that range is $167k.

Not surprising, lots of rumors of SEC schools paying players among other things

thistlintom posted:
scbeerman posted:

Just saw an article where a former foundation head in Louisiana was sentenced to 33 months in prison for money laundering, wire fraud etc. He was apparently a very careless bagman as $167,000 of his embezzlement was directed to the father of former LSU OL Vadal Alexander who started there from 2012-2015. Alexander was a 4 star recruit and rated 167 by ESPN coming out of high school. So we now know that the market price of a player in that range is $167k.

Not surprising, lots of rumors of SEC schools paying players among other things

Don't kid yourself thinking this is limited to the SEC.  

Weekend Summary

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Yes, the playoff committee is breathing a sigh of relief, for now. It appeared that they had to make a tough choice of an unbeaten Oklahoma over a one loss Alabama or LSU. Not anymore as OU went to the Little Apple and got upset by KState 48-41. The Wildcats were the more physical team and raced out to a 48-23 lead. The Sooners have that winner's mindset and came back to make it a one score game late, and they appeared to recover an onside kick, but it was correctly reversed to seal their upset. OU needs a lot of help now.

We were treated to an old fashioned SEC slugfest, the kind of game Auburn likes to play. The Tigers, of the Plains variety, visited the Tigers, of the Bayou variety, in Death Valley. Auburn's DL harassed LSU QB Joe Burrow (first time this season for him) and that resulted in a narrow 23-20 LSU win. Burrow proved that he can win a game using his feet and intangibles, making key run after key run to keep drives alive. And Bo Nix, the prodigy Auburn QB, just does not quit . He is wildly inaccurate in big games, but always seems to make a play late. Auburn scored a late TD, and had their hands on the onside kick attempt, but LSU recovered and held on.

I wanted to watch some football last night, but no game was close. I was switching channels, but always seemed to go to baseball and Tiger Woods. For the first time in Nick Saban's tenure in T-town, he had to start a backup QB. Mac Jones executed a modest game plan and Bama swamped a bad Arkansas team. Clemson may be rounding into form as they boat raced BC 59-7. The khaki man finally got him a top ten win as Michigan was just flat out more physical than Notre Dame 45-14 in a downpour. No talk of ND in the playoff anymore.

So here is where we are, there are five teams for four slots. Both Bama and LSU, providing the winner beats the Florida/Georgia winner in the SEC Title Game, may well have two slots locked up. That is if the loser of that game goes unbeaten, and yes I know Auburn is capable of beating Bama. The Ohio St/Penn St winner should be the other one. However, Penn St plays unbeaten Minnesota next week so we may have to wait a week or so on that one. And then there, as always,  is Clemson, who should breeze their way in.

 This is what I meant by my opening statement. The same teams are there, particularly Alabama and Clemson. The only caveat is that neither team has played anyone good, but that will change shortly for the Tide. 

thistlintom posted:

Glad to see Michigan’s game coming around with a dominating performance.  We will see if the have really turned the corner with the game against MSU.  Man was it pouring in the first half!

Harbaugh finally gets another  Top 10 win (he was 1-10 previously), although ND is/was highly overrated.  I love that it gives Xichigan fans some hope, like they really have a decent team and coach.  Hope Harbaugh stays there forever.

This is the most dominant Ohio State team I've seen in a long time.  Chase Young is the best player in college football.  The main concern is lack of depth at QB, so hoping Fields stays healthy all season.  

patespo1 posted:
thistlintom posted:

Glad to see Michigan’s game coming around with a dominating performance.  We will see if the have really turned the corner with the game against MSU.  Man was it pouring in the first half!

Harbaugh finally gets another  Top 10 win (he was 1-10 previously), although ND is/was highly overrated.  I love that it gives Xichigan fans some hope, like they really have a decent team and coach.  Hope Harbaugh stays there forever.

This is the most dominant Ohio State team I've seen in a long time.  Chase Young is the best player in college football.  The main concern is lack of depth at QB, so hoping Fields stays healthy all season.  

I think you may be correct. tOSU have been extremely impressive thus far. 

 

So we are looking at paying college athletes for using their image or  being an outstanding athlete instead of just providing them with a free college education and stipends for living expenses.  Instead of going down this path, it would make much more sense for the NFL to set up a minor league pro system that would take kids out of high school and pay them to play and develop them into pro athletes.  This is not uncommon as it is offered in other sports.  College football has been corrupted by all the money in it and it would only get worse when paying athletes for attending school  Let's return it back to what it should be and make it truly for student athletes.  If you want money or don't want to get an education, go to the minor league.  If you want a free education, go to college and maybe turn pro if you develop into an NFL calibre player.

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