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scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

Vegas edition - saw Aerosmith last night and still have the iconic voice of Steven Tyler and guitar playing of Joe Perry in my head, so we will "walk this way" and proceed. For being out of town I got to watch a surprising amount of football. There were three notable games so we start there.

Jim Harbaugh attracts attention everywhere and not always positive. His antics energize his own fan bases and irritate the others. Problem is, when you cannot win a statement game, it wears thin. Michigan rolled into Camp Randall and subsequently got rolled by a good Wisconsin team 35-14. The Badgers raced out to a 35 point lead under Heisman candidate RB Jonathan Taylor never looking back. This was a statement win putting Wisconsin in the playoff talk. As for Captain Khaki, I am guessing his agent is reaching out to all of the 0-2 NFL teams as the end has to be near in Ann Arbor (other than running the table).

The Men of the Plains visited Aggieland and JImbo Fisher. Auburn, the ultimate wild card, dominated early with the run for a statement 28-20 win. While A&M had some chances, it was clear Auburn was the better team. They can wreak havoc going forward and with only one loss, make the SEC game in Atlanta. Gus Malzahn wins just when he is about to be run out of town.

Notre Dame went down "tween the hedges" to play them Dawgs, and no one gave them a chance. They held a 10-7 halftime lead, went down 23-10, scored a late TD and had a chance at the end for a 23-17 final. Georgia is loaded, but may be too conservative and they may not be quite as good as thought. Or ND may be better than we thought. Either way, the Irish will need some help in making the playoff.

The rest of the powers cruised. Florida backup Kyle Trask did just fine in his first start since 9th grade (read his story in the Atlantic you will like this guy no matter who you pull for) in beating a bad Tennessee team 34-3. I bet the Gators and the under winning two bets. Florida has a gauntlet of Auburn, LSU and Georgia in October, and they will have to play perfect to win any one of those games.

As for the outsiders crashing the playoff party, ND may be out since they may not have a quality opponent left on their schedule. Utah was the Pac 12's best hope, and they lost to SCal. UCF lost their first regular season game in three years as Pitt ran the "Philly special" to edge them 35-34. Thankfully, no more UCF playoff talk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wonderful summary as always. 

I’m in Maui but did see some football as it starts at 6:00 am here.😎.  I heard Harbaugh has NEVER won a game at Michigan where he was an underdog. Ever. He is the only coach of a Power 5 conference team that can make that statement.

 

greendrazi posted:

Good day for CFB. Having beat UCF, Pitt is now the national champs. Khaki-pants is Michigan’s “forever coach” - until the Detroit Lions call. ND still wasn’t physical enough at the line, but if the other playoff contenders drop a game, the fanbase will put them back in the picture. UCLA vs Wash St 67-63 is evidence the college game is turning into arena football.

And Auburn is now 4-0 at Kyle field. 

Auburn 4-0 at College Station. Wow. 

One on the things I hate about the SEC is how seldom some teams play each other in their own damn conference. I have a friend that is a bulldog. I told him to go to an Aggie game when they play Georgia. Well, that has still never happened yet and is still a couple of years away I think. Never. Dumb. 

csm posted:
jburman82 posted:

Didn't Michigan give Harbaugh a lifetime contract?

The rest of the Big Ten sure hopes so. 

I can tell you everyone in the State of Ohio hope he stays for life.  Guy is a straight fraud.

My Alma Mater Miami (OH) only lost by 71 points this weekend...

As much as I hate Notre Dame, have to give them a ton of credit for competing like they did against Georgia.  I for one thought they would get blown out.  

Awesome summary SC, I say Aerosmith in the early '90s and 'Dream On' remains one of the best live songs I've experienced.  

Weekend Summary

Yes, watching an iconic band sing their iconic song is as good as it gets. Dream On is a special song for sure.

Usually a theme is obvious every week but I am struggling to find one. Despite some nice intersectional games, the season has gone as expected, chalk per se. While it may have always been that way, the recruiting advantage of a few schools has made it where the same teams are on top. This is even though my team, the Gators, are 5-0 and in the top ten, but I am not booking any rooms in Atlanta or in the playoff cities.

We almost got that major upset yesterday. Clemson visited Chapel Hill, a place where they have never won a basketball game ever (look it up) to face a 28 point underdog. Kenan Stadium is a beautiful venue, set beneath the Carolina pines, and Mack Brown is making it relevant again. The Tar Heels scored on the first possession and had it tied 14 all at the half. After failing to convert a 4th and one at midfield, Trevor Lawrence hit Tee Higgins for the score for a 7 point lead. NC then made a long inexorable march of 8 minutes down the field, converting maybe two 4th downs, to score with about a minute left. I told my son at the five minute mark that Mack would go for two, he did, but did not make it. I applaud him for playing to win. Clemson survived 21-20 for a 20 game winning streak (soon to be a lot more), but may move down in the polls.

Ohio St is really good. Gameday was in Lincoln trying to remind us of the glory days of Cornhusker football, but not yesterday. Transfer QB and former #1 recruit Justin Fields has the Buckeye offense in full throttle mode in an easy win. How Fields got a waiver to play this year is a mystery (some guy calls him a name from the stands), but OSU is thankful. Oklahoma is also good piling up points on Texas Tech. The other big name transfer QB, Jalen Hurts (who graduated at Bama so no questions here) is merely fulfilling the Lincoln Riley formula. Both of these QBs payed in the SEC Title Game last year so the irony of them meeting in a playoff game elsewhere is noted.

These are the teams most likely to make the playoff outside the SEC. Maybe Notre Dame (better than you think), Wisconsin, Iowa or Penn State are the exceptions. The top half of the SEC is loaded. Bama is Bama except they are all offense with Tua tossing it to his multiple "frisbee catching dogs" (Mark Packer phrase) for loads of points. LSU can now score as well. Remember the 9-6 Bama-LSU game in 2011. Well, this year is may be 63-60 as times have changed. Then you have Georgia playing the traditional game of big line, ball control and timely passing. Finally, Auburn has found a running game and a gutsy frosh QB and they may actually win the SEC West. I am going to the game in Gainesville next week to watch a rivalry that never should have gone away. Florida/Auburn games are some of the best games of my lifetime.

 

scbeerman posted:

Adding on to the discussion.

According to ESPN, Florida has the toughest schedule going forward which is a main reason that there are no expectations of a huge season. Ohio St is 19, Oklahoma 35th and Clemson 58th. Would the committee dare taking two one loss teams from the SEC over a conference champ?

I think it depends on the team . No way Ohio State or Oklahoma get passed over. 

Thus far, as boring of a college football season as I can recall in many years. That said, college football is the best. 

scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

Yes, watching an iconic band sing their iconic song is as good as it gets. Dream On is a special song for sure.

Usually a theme is obvious every week but I am struggling to find one. Despite some nice intersectional games, the season has gone as expected, chalk per se. While it may have always been that way, the recruiting advantage of a few schools has made it where the same teams are on top. This is even though my team, the Gators, are 5-0 and in the top ten, but I am not booking any rooms in Atlanta or in the playoff cities.

We almost got that major upset yesterday. Clemson visited Chapel Hill, a place where they have never won a basketball game ever (look it up) to face a 28 point underdog. Kenan Stadium is a beautiful venue, set beneath the Carolina pines, and Mack Brown is making it relevant again. The Tar Heels scored on the first possession and had it tied 14 all at the half. After failing to convert a 4th and one at midfield, Trevor Lawrence hit Tee Higgins for the score for a 7 point lead. NC then made a long inexorable march of 8 minutes down the field, converting maybe two 4th downs, to score with about a minute left. I told my son at the five minute mark that Mack would go for two, he did, but did not make it. I applaud him for playing to win. Clemson survived 21-20 for a 20 game winning streak (soon to be a lot more), but may move down in the polls.

Ohio St is really good. Gameday was in Lincoln trying to remind us of the glory days of Cornhusker football, but not yesterday. Transfer QB and former #1 recruit Justin Fields has the Buckeye offense in full throttle mode in an easy win. How Fields got a waiver to play this year is a mystery (some guy calls him a name from the stands), but OSU is thankful. Oklahoma is also good piling up points on Texas Tech. The other big name transfer QB, Jalen Hurts (who graduated at Bama so no questions here) is merely fulfilling the Lincoln Riley formula. Both of these QBs payed in the SEC Title Game last year so the irony of them meeting in a playoff game elsewhere is noted.

These are the teams most likely to make the playoff outside the SEC. Maybe Notre Dame (better than you think), Wisconsin, Iowa or Penn State are the exceptions. The top half of the SEC is loaded. Bama is Bama except they are all offense with Tua tossing it to his multiple "frisbee catching dogs" (Mark Packer phrase) for loads of points. LSU can now score as well. Remember the 9-6 Bama-LSU game in 2011. Well, this year is may be 63-60 as times have changed. Then you have Georgia playing the traditional game of big line, ball control and timely passing. Finally, Auburn has found a running game and a gutsy frosh QB and they may actually win the SEC West. I am going to the game in Gainesville next week to watch a rivalry that never should have gone away. Florida/Auburn games are some of the best games of my lifetime.

 

As always, thanks for the fine post.

I’m surprised there has not been more debate/ discussion about Fields being a better QB than Fromm. 

 

wineart 2 posted:
scbeerman posted:

Weekend Summary

Yes, watching an iconic band sing their iconic song is as good as it gets. Dream On is a special song for sure.

Usually a theme is obvious every week but I am struggling to find one. Despite some nice intersectional games, the season has gone as expected, chalk per se. While it may have always been that way, the recruiting advantage of a few schools has made it where the same teams are on top. This is even though my team, the Gators, are 5-0 and in the top ten, but I am not booking any rooms in Atlanta or in the playoff cities.

We almost got that major upset yesterday. Clemson visited Chapel Hill, a place where they have never won a basketball game ever (look it up) to face a 28 point underdog. Kenan Stadium is a beautiful venue, set beneath the Carolina pines, and Mack Brown is making it relevant again. The Tar Heels scored on the first possession and had it tied 14 all at the half. After failing to convert a 4th and one at midfield, Trevor Lawrence hit Tee Higgins for the score for a 7 point lead. NC then made a long inexorable march of 8 minutes down the field, converting maybe two 4th downs, to score with about a minute left. I told my son at the five minute mark that Mack would go for two, he did, but did not make it. I applaud him for playing to win. Clemson survived 21-20 for a 20 game winning streak (soon to be a lot more), but may move down in the polls.

Ohio St is really good. Gameday was in Lincoln trying to remind us of the glory days of Cornhusker football, but not yesterday. Transfer QB and former #1 recruit Justin Fields has the Buckeye offense in full throttle mode in an easy win. How Fields got a waiver to play this year is a mystery (some guy calls him a name from the stands), but OSU is thankful. Oklahoma is also good piling up points on Texas Tech. The other big name transfer QB, Jalen Hurts (who graduated at Bama so no questions here) is merely fulfilling the Lincoln Riley formula. Both of these QBs payed in the SEC Title Game last year so the irony of them meeting in a playoff game elsewhere is noted.

These are the teams most likely to make the playoff outside the SEC. Maybe Notre Dame (better than you think), Wisconsin, Iowa or Penn State are the exceptions. The top half of the SEC is loaded. Bama is Bama except they are all offense with Tua tossing it to his multiple "frisbee catching dogs" (Mark Packer phrase) for loads of points. LSU can now score as well. Remember the 9-6 Bama-LSU game in 2011. Well, this year is may be 63-60 as times have changed. Then you have Georgia playing the traditional game of big line, ball control and timely passing. Finally, Auburn has found a running game and a gutsy frosh QB and they may actually win the SEC West. I am going to the game in Gainesville next week to watch a rivalry that never should have gone away. Florida/Auburn games are some of the best games of my lifetime.

 

As always, thanks for the fine post.

I’m surprised there has not been more debate/ discussion about Fields being a better QB than Fromm. 

 

I’m not surprised. Kirby’s game philosophy is the same as Saban’s when he was still the DC there. Which is to say that he wants a “game manager” at QB and Fromm had already proven that ability by getting them to the Natty in his first year.

thistlintom posted:
csm posted:

SC depends on the record of the conference champ I think.  Undefeated conference champ, I don’t think so. 1 los conference champ, possible, perhaps even likely.  

Clearly, we need an 8 team playoff. 

Yes!

+1, firmly in the 8 team playoff camp.

The two biggest questions for OSU coming into the season were Fields and new HC Ryan Day.  So far both proving they're worth the hype.  This is Ohio St's best receiving core maybe ever, and will get even better next year when Julian Fleming (#1 receiver in the nation) joins the team.  Paired with true freshman Garrett Wilson, they'll put on a show. 

Buckeyes need to avoid the mid season stumble they've had the last few years, but Ryan Day so far has not let the foot off of the gas.  

Meanwhile, Xichigan fans are celebrating a shutout win over perennial loser Rutgers...

I think the most compelling playoff matchups would be Tua versus Hurts and Fields versus Fromm.  I just don't see Clemson being left out of the playoffs unless they have another meltdown and actually lose a game.  The level of competition in the ACC is particularly bad this year.

i saw Aerosmith at the Prudential Center in Newark, and NJ native Darryl DMC McDaniels came out and sang Walk this Way with Steven Tyler which was pretty special.

Nice discussion going.

Agree that Ohio St and Oklahoma are easily in if unbeaten. 

The Fields thing is interesting. JB is spot on with his assessment. While Kirby is clearly comfortable with his ball control QB in Fromm, a modern day Bob Griese if you will, Dabo and Saban went a different direction. Dabo had a reasonably good starter in Kelly Bryant but went with frosh superstar Trevor Lawrence and won it all. He probably could have reached the title game last year with Bryant, but he knew he needed Lawrence to beat Bama. Saban replaced Jalen Hurts with Tua in the 2017 title game, started Tua all last year, then went to Hurts to win the SEC title game. Now Tua starts and Hurts is at OU. The best way may be to be coached by Lincoln Riley, who seemingly can make a superstar with any QB. There is no simple way, and while Kirby could use some game day skills, I cannot fault him with sticking with Fromm.

I like Fromm. He is good. However, Fields was clearly more dynamic since high school. 

I mock my UF  friends about the talent UGA has and say it doesn't matter that Mullen is a good coach since he is Uncle Eddie on the recruiting trail. UF wont sniff a SEC East title for a while. They come back with Smart isnt really that smart. When he does stuff like run off Fields its hard to disagree. 

Can Riley recruit and develop his own QB? That's a question whispered in the ear of every high school QB in the country.

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