You could see this one coming all season. His demeanor at the pre-season press conference when they announced the three game suspension, reports of health problems and his body language during the Maryland game were all indications that he was done. Give him a year on TV and he will pop up somewhere like say, Auburn.

Looks like FSU will hire Kendal Briles as OC. That feels gross to me. Rather have Mike Sanford and not deal with the baggage.

That being said, I think Briles is probably the best OC in college football. If FSU can pull 3 new oline starters from JUCO/grad transfer, they are a 10 win team next year. 

jburman82 posted:

Looks like FSU will hire Kendal Briles as OC. That feels gross to me. Rather have Mike Sanford and not deal with the baggage.

That being said, I think Briles is probably the best OC in college football. If FSU can pull 3 new oline starters from JUCO/grad transfer, they are a 10 win team next year. 

The schedule is certainly favorable for a 10 win season

Bagmen are everywhere. As an Auburn fan you should be familiar. Historically the 3 dirtiest programs in this regard have been Auburn, Clemson and Ole Miss. Im sure SC will back me up. 

If you cant see the difference between Richt's classes and the past 3 Smart classes, I dont know what to tell you. Im pretty sure it was last year they signed 10% of the rivals top 150. Thats insane.

Of course FSU bagmen, just not as good as other schools. We dont have the amount of big money boosters other schools have.

UGA is going to get Kair Elam. His dad is straight shopping him. Highest bidder. 

Dont get so defensive dude. Every big program has its skeletons. Big time CFB is a dirty, slime ridden business. Read my post, I said in this regard. I was clearly referring solely to the bagman.

Gotta get you back back on block. Guess the server changed cleared my settings. Dont get why you have such a problem with me. Anyway, Merry Christmas .

Clemson losing Dexter Lawrence could be significant. Failing a drug test at this juncture is beyond stupid for many reasons. In addition to losing a chance at a title he stayed in school to win, his draft stock will plummet (if he did this in college he may do it in an NFL playoff setting). Notre Dame may have a better chance than people think.

Most know I stay out of insulting schools. I pretty much have personal knowledge about Clemson (SC is  a small chummy state), but the ironic thing is now they do not have to cheat since they are established. Auburn and Alabama have had that reputation for my lifetime. Ole Miss got it under Freeze. Kirby is another dimension over Richt. Many of his players are out of state and he is getting a disproportionate share of five stars. If he ever becomes a good game day coach, look out.

The recruiting budgets for Alabama and Georgia are over $2.5 million per year. The Gator budget is $1.4 million, so Mullen did ok. Saban has 13 analysts in the office looking at film and contacting recruits, and Kirby learned that from him. As with the facilities arms race, it is getting out of hand. The same teams will continue to win.

Playoff Summary

Well, we got what we all knew was coming from mid-season, something that does not always happen in CFB. The problem is, certain schools have figured out a formula for success and have exploited the system to the max. I will leave the specifics to your imagination.

Game One pitted Notre Dame against Clemson, and it was not even a contest. Before I get into the conventional wisdom, let me say that I have the utmost respect for UND as an educational institution, but that may be the problem. A recent WSJ article detailed their last five or six recruiting classes which ranged from 11th to 18th. I am guessing that ND had to pass on some five star players, or they would not come to ND due to actually be required to take real classes, that the other powers would find a way to admit. Good coaching can take you so far, and at this level, the talent level showed. Clemson was without their best defensive player (Dexter Lawrence), and still held the Irish to their lowest point level in school bowl history.  That is because Clemson has about six other DLs who will play in the NFL. Dabo Swinney knew early on that he needed frosh gunslinger, the long haired lanky Trevor Lawrence to beat Bama so he benched senior Kelly Bryant (who immediately bailed). Lawrence has proven Dabo correct as he both idolizes and resembles Peyton Manning (please Panthers sell your soul to draft him in 2021). Add a stable of great WRS, yes Hunter is still there, and you have a complete team.

Game Two saw OU facing Alabama (the Death Star as CFB talk show host Bill King calls them) in Miami. OU did what they did all year, fall behind early and then score at will in the second half. The problem is that they were playing the Tide and not Texas Tech or Ok St. You have to give the Sooners a lot of props for rallying from a 28-0 hole to make this a game as many teams would have packed it in. While I think that Kyler Murray should indeed play MLB, provided he can hit the breaking ball, he did show that he was a worthy Heisman winner. Tua was fine, given that he received medical treatment generally given to royalty, going 24 for 27, and a perfect 10 for 10 with 4 TDs when blitzed.

Now we get the 4th consecutive playoff matchup between Clemson and Alabama, and the third in the title game. While it will be fun to watch, this is exactly meant by me saying it was boring during the season.

wineart 2 posted:

Wow... Mark Richt retiring! 

Read the writing on the wall. Had about 10 kids decommit before early signing day. Class ranked in the 40s. Freshman QB transferring. The two he had this year arent any good. 

UM gets a new coach and we all get to hear how the U is back for about the 15th  straight year. 

Props to the Sooners for fighting back, but that’s the wrong team to dig a hole for yourself to start the game.

Trevor Lawrence was able to pick on an inexperienced DB against the Catholics, but he won’t have that easy-out against Bama. Toward the end of the season, the SEC teams with the better DL's have been able to slow Bama's attack down, for at least part of the game - is Clemson's DL up to the task?

greendrazi posted:

There's a very good chance that the Sharks will out draw the CFC game.  Very good chance.  If the Warriors were playing tonight their local tv share would probably be double the football game.

The article is correct, interest in college football here is very low.  There's also no following for Alabama or Clemson locally, no alumni to speak of -  real or tailgate.  Those two schools don't travel well outside of the South so no one is flying in for the game.  Finally I think locally that football fans who have a heritage of Montana, Young, Garcia, Elway, Luck , Goff and Rodgers, consider Alabama and Clemson's brand of football monumentally boring.  

Tickets are going for 1/2 to 1/3 of face value and I have a friend with a suite that's going to go unused.  

arsenal4ever posted:

Considering the 49ers (100-139, 42%) and Raiders (85-159, 35%) records in the past 15 years, maybe the Bay Area should start following college football more. At least Stanford has won.

So about 10 years ago we're in a hotel in New Orleans having coffee in the lobby.  There's a family across from us and the guy is explaining to who I guess was his father in -law that: "He was a Georgia fan until he moved to Alabama.  Then he was an Auburn fan, because he just couldn't root for Bama.  Now of course he's an LSU fan since they live in Louisiana, but he still roots for Georgia if they're not playing LSU."

Stef turns to me and says: "Aren't you supposed to root for the school you went to?"  

I say: "That's not how it works down here".

It's exactly how it works here though.  There's really no following of any of the local college teams except by alumni.  No subway alumni or tail gate alumni or whatever you want to call them.

“Fans” that switch allegiance are rarely alumni in any region. College football has a much longer history in the SE region than professional sports and hence, has a larger following by non-alumni than most other areas. And the few pro teams that did start in the 60's were mostly run by families for profit, not success (i.e., few championships). The Dolphins had success back in the 70's, but Miami is not a part of the SE.

It cracks me up how many Notre Dame fans there are given that there are not that many alumni.  Notre Dame has less than 10,000 students enrolled.  I guess if you are Irish in heritage or Catholic, then you have to be a Notre Dame fan.

people in the Bay Area are more concerned about getting a free trade cafe latte than a football game

The streak continues. The number 1 seed has yet to win the championship.

Not only had Saban never lost by 28 points at Alabama, he had never trailed by 28 points. The first time since 2011 Alabama had zero sacks and zero turnovers. 

Bama played 3 top QB’s in their last 3 games and gave up over 1000 yards in passing in the 3 games.  Bama went scoreless the last 44 minutes, and Clemson held ND to 3 points all while one of their very best players was suspended. When does Brent Venables start getting more consideration for a head coaching job? 

Venables makes $2M a year. He has been offered jobs in the past and turned them down. He seems to be a Bud Foster type. Content with where he is and what he is doing. FSU fans have been waiting for him to leave for a long time but I dont think it will happen.

Wow just wow. The evil empire just got crushed, dominated, whatever word you like to describe it. Yes, Clemson got a lot of breaks, but there is no doubt who was the better team.

Dabo is now an all time great coach. He is the ultimate culture guy as people love to work for him, unlike Saban. He a has DC in Venables (sorry W2A but that is OU's biggest mistake) who is financially secure without the headaches. He has two co-OCs who are Clemson alumni. This feels like the FSU staff which stayed together during their great run. Clemson is the new king of the hill and could be for a while.

RECRUITING MATTERS! If some of you from outside the SE wonder why we are so obsessed with recruiting, last night showed why. Trevor Lawrence was making throws that 1/3 of NFL QBs could not make. Pencil him in for a 15 year NFL career. Justyn Ross may be another generational talent at WR. You win championships with exceptional talents.

And finally, Hunter Renfrow has decided to retire from Clemson.

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