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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by Uncle John:
There are only a few cigar lounges in Montreal. The only one sort of near is Stogies on crescent. They do let you bring your own cigars.

Been there many times, UC, and know it well.
That could be a good place, if not our home
(D may allow said smoking one evening out of the year Devilish )


I might see D allowing you to enjoy one small cigar in your home, but to allow a group of cigar enthusiast to enjoy 2 hour cigars in your home... I'm betting, NO! Smile
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Originally posted by wine+art:
I might see D allowing you to enjoy one small cigar in your home, but to allow a group of cigar enthusiast to enjoy 2 hour cigars in your home... I'm betting, NO! Smile

This topic was discussed this afternoon. While she was willing for a full size cigar, it was the number of people smoking said cigars that was of issue. I pick my battles. Smile

Indeed, you bet well. Big Grin

Stogies it is! Cool
I'm afraid my 'best of list' this year would very closely resemble my list from last year. To my palate, not many cigars can compete at the level of Behikes, Siglo VIs, and Maduro 5s - I love them almost equally, depending on what I'm looking for at the moment. I see no need to simply repeat myself, so this year I'm simply going to offer a list of 'must tries,' the sole stipulation being that they can't have been on last year's list. That being given...

If you haven't tried a Liga Privada #9 Robusto with at least a year of age on it, you're missing out! Rich but detailed; great, classic flavors, but some real individuality - I just love these things! If I have a high-end, go-to cigar, this is it! Less readily available, but also fantastic is Liga's UF-4 - bold and powerful, but layers of flavors deserve serious attention.

In a smaller size, the L'Atelier 52 is a definite must-try. Featuring a very subtle, intriguing sweetness - almost stevia-like - backed up by an exotic smoked-meat/bacon impression... this is like the Cote-Rotie of the cigar world, and I can't get enough of it! 'Love it! (Its wrapper is a new hybrid, whose parents are Criollo and Pelo de Oro - truly something new!)

Larger, but milder, I'm a devout fan of the Casa Magna Domus Magnus, often sporting an exotic fruit flavor early in the cigar... and speaking of exotic fruit, the Quesada España (the short robusto, being my favorite) never fails to get my attention with a peach/apricot note that is just intoxicating!

I'm not a big Connecticut-shade lover, but the EP Carillo New Wave CT has real depth and character that makes a hot summer evening a little cooler. Similarly, when I'm seeking elegance, nothing seems to fit the bill better than the Hoyo de Monterey Epicure #2 - so delicate and refreshing! Also elegant and sophisticated in its uniquely Cuban way, but with more spine and focus, the Trinidad Coloniales is a first-rate, any-time-of-day Corona that I look forward to watching evolve in the next few years. And while I'm considering sticks from our favorite forbidden island, my first introduction to the H. Upmann #2 won me over immediately with its autumnal, savory character and understated wheat and tea notes. Similarly, I finally got to find out why so many people so highly praise the Ramon Allones Specially Selected Robusto - very impressive, even at such a young age.

I've also been a fan of Oliva's recent Serie V, vintage-dated Toros, utilizing a San Andres Mexican wrapper, but their latest creation, sporting an Ecuadorian-grown Sumatra wrapper, the Oliva Melanio (the Figurado and the Robusto being especially good in different ways). Finally, I'm not sure if they'll ever be made again, but Tatuaje's box of Mini-Monsters has been a pure pleasure, especially the Mini-Mum and Baby Face to my palate.

I'd love to hear what sticks stand out in your memory from this past year. For my part, it certainly seemed like a great year for new sticks. What do you think?
Doing a quick search around the internet, checking out various site's top-10 lists, I realize that the Cuenca y Blanco (in various vitolas) and the Undercrown Corona Viva were unfairly omitted from my list.

I'll add that, for the second year in a row, the top-10 list with which I most agree is Jerry (The Great Torpedo) at Stogie Review dot com. He only does domestically available smokes, but within that realm, I think is palate and judgment are spot-on.

[I have no affiliation with Stogie Review or with Jerry.]
Nice list Stick.

Well I had the opportunity to smoke the top 3 from the list created by CA.

The Cohiba 66' is a pretty decent cigar, in need of TIME. Give me a BHK 54 over this cigar any day and its very similar in price.

The other 2...decent cigars but certainly not worthy of the top spots IMO. But I am biased Wink

The best cigar on the list of there top 25 is the Bolivar BF...hands down.

Last week enjoyed the My Father LE 2012...but it doesnt compare to the 2011. I bought 2 more boxes of the 2011 and will pass on the 12'.
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Originally posted by marcb7:
Nice list Stick.

Well I had the opportunity to smoke the top 3 from the list created by CA.

The Cohiba 66' is a pretty decent cigar, in need of TIME. Give me a BHK 54 over this cigar any day and its very similar in price.

The other 2...decent cigars but certainly not worthy of the top spots IMO. But I am biased Wink

The best cigar on the list of there top 25 is the Bolivar BF...hands down.

Last week enjoyed the My Father LE 2012...but it doesnt compare to the 2011. I bought 2 more boxes of the 2011 and will pass on the 12'.


Have had the opposite experience with the 66 vs. BHK - smoked them both fresh in HAV in August and both were outstnading, biut Behike is going into a serious sick period. 66 will be an all-time great.
Very nice! What was the box code on the BHK?

And Im not knocking the 66', it is a very nice cigar, but the strong ammonia smell even after 6 months rest doesnt sit well with me. I have had several Cohiba LE's over the past 15+ yrs and check in on them from time to time, they are "special" cigars no doubt, but side by side, the BHK (especially 2010 boxcodes) is superior for my taste.

I wonder if you smoked a "really" fresh BHK, in my opinion, they really benefit from at least 2-3 months rest but have the stuffing to last 20+ yrs easy IMO.
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
So great minds, I like cigars around the petit cornoa size (5 inches and 35-45 ring size). I greatly prefer maduros (or at least the richer & sweeter side, and steer clear of green and acid nuances but not quite to the oily/super spicy side of the spectrum).

What would you suggest?


Rob,

Not a size I smoke often first of all. I have a little experience with island sticks from Partagas and Bolivar but Im not too sure they still produce the Corona size to be honest. Its been years since I have bought a box. I have a few boxes from the mid 90's but thats about it.


Ring gauges around 40 Tatuaje makes a Petite Cazadore which is really nice. Bolivar Shorts and Partagas also makes a stick around that ring gauge. These are perfect 30 minute cigar. I typically only smoke these in the Winter.

H Upmann Mag 46 fits your flavor profile a bit but you may not like the size. This is typically the smallest ring guage cigar I smoke.
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Originally posted by marcb7:
Bates,

That gives a new meaning to ROTT! I guess they were fresh. Very cool....a place I hope to visit one day.

Did you happen to try the Montecristo Grand Reserve? Now that is going to be a "special" cigar in my opinion.


I'll check in on the 66' in a year or so....


No, I have not had the Gran Reserva, I generally stay away from ELs and Special Editions due to pricing concerns. My most recent purchases of note have been mid 1980s Belvederes (a box each from Partagas and RyJ) as well as acouple fo Air France 5 packs of coronas from the mid-1970s
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Originally posted by marcb7:
Well I had the opportunity to smoke the top 3 from the list created by CA.

The Cohiba 66' is a pretty decent cigar, in need of TIME. Give me a BHK 54 over this cigar any day and its very similar in price.

+1

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... The other 2...decent cigars but certainly not worthy of the top spots IMO. But I am biased Wink

As much as I love Don Pepin's creations, Las Flor de las Antillas at #1 made me think, "Did I miss something?" So I smoked another this past weekend (toro - same vitola). 'Really nice smoke, and I'm glad I've still got a handful, but 96 points and #1 Cigar of the Year? I'm willing to agree to (strongly) disagree. On the other hand, "Romeo" at 94 points and #3? I just have to chuckle. Whatever.

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...Last week enjoyed the My Father LE 2012...but it doesnt compare to the 2011. I bought 2 more boxes of the 2011 and will pass on the 12'.

That's very useful information; many thanks.
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
So great minds, I like cigars around the petit cornoa size (5 inches and 35-45 ring size). I greatly prefer maduros (or at least the richer & sweeter side, and steer clear of green and acid nuances but not quite to the oily/super spicy side of the spectrum).

What would you suggest?

If you can find them (and if you can, please let me know where!), the Liga Privada Dirty Rat sounds perfectly suited to your palate. Short of that, I'd recommend the petit La Palina Kill Bill (or KB), Illusione's mk ultra, and I like the godfather's rec for the Tatuaje Petit Cazadores. Maybe not 'maduro' enough for your palate, but I think one could never go far wrong with a My Father Corona. Also likely suited to your palate but larger in size, the new La Aroma de Cuba Reserva Beso (corona gorda) is excellent.
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Originally posted by stickman:
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
So great minds, I like cigars around the petit cornoa size (5 inches and 35-45 ring size). I greatly prefer maduros (or at least the richer & sweeter side, and steer clear of green and acid nuances but not quite to the oily/super spicy side of the spectrum).

What would you suggest?

If you can find them (and if you can, please let me know where!), the Liga Privada Dirty Rat sounds perfectly suited to your palate. Short of that, I'd recommend the petit La Palina Kill Bill (or KB), Illusione's mk ultra, and I like the godfather's rec for the Tatuaje Petit Cazadores. Maybe not 'maduro' enough for your palate, but I think one could never go far wrong with a My Father Corona. Also likely suited to your palate but larger in size, the new La Aroma de Cuba Reserva Beso (corona gorda) is excellent.



All good suggestions...and I forgot about the dirty rat! I have about a full box left of these....but because they are impossible to find this suggestion never crossed my mind.
Stick,

Not sure if you had the "Romeo" #3 cigar but I got through about half of it and really got bored and put it down.

I also have a handful of the #1 cigar and actually think it will age quite well, but 96 points? I can count on one hand how many cigars I have had over the years that rate this high....but im not an expert rater.

As an aside, I believe Opus X had released a 4 cigar gift pack around the holidays, it has the elusive BBMF in it, which in the past could only be purchased at Casa Fuente or in there annual coffin box. In my market they want 150$ for this 4 cigar box....I passed FYI.
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Originally posted by marcb7:
Stick,

Not sure if you had the "Romeo" #3 cigar but I got through about half of it and really got bored and put it down.

Yes, and I had a similar impression.

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...As an aside, I believe Opus X had released a 4 cigar gift pack around the holidays, it has the elusive BBMF in it, which in the past could only be purchased at Casa Fuente or in there annual coffin box. In my market they want 150$ for this 4 cigar box....I passed FYI.

It's not just your market; the lowest I've seen on the 4-box (1 BBMF, 2 Tauros, 1 Don Carlos Robusto) is $145, and they go fast! I know where the BBMF with the Destino Siglo band can be had for $60/stick (lemme' know if you're interested), but I'm more interested in the Angel's Share Toro for a mere $50. Big Grin
Had a Salamone that I think was about 5 years old during a long drive Saturday. First 3rd was absolutely too much power, made me dizzy, sencond 1/3 tasted absolutely like apple pie, something I had never experienced before, and last 1/3 did not work about so well due to construciton problems - the price to pay when delaing with custom rolled cigars
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Originally posted by marcb7:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
A perfect cigar weekend in Dallas, as we will be enjoying the mid to high 60's.

But no cigar for me. Frown



Is the humidor empty? Im sure I could help rectify that Smile


Thanks for the offer, marcb7.

I have cigars, just recovering from some minor surgery that does not allow cigars, or anything much for that matter.

It will be sunny and 70 here today.

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