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@pinotlvr posted:
There are 3 drugs on earth that are worth a damn...and I have no reason to take them...but they are worth a damn:

Viagra
Levitra
Cialis

Any other drug or remedy have side effects that just aren't worth it. If I ever died from the 3 mentioned...I at least know I'd die enjoying it.

Actually, Viagra also has side effects. My husband has erectile dysfunction, so he takes such pills. He started experiencing headaches after using Viagra, so he deided to Buy Cialis Online. It also works great and my DH hasn't noticed any side effects. 

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@irwin posted:

When I had my gout attack 2 weeks ago, a doctor told me that before going to sleep at night, I should drink a cup of hot green tea after a hot bath.  Well, drinking the tea was easy, but drinking all the water in the hot bath about killed me.

obv anecdotal, but low acid orange juice and a liter of water a day has been  helping me dramatically.  I was on colchicine but the side effects for me were pretty terrible,  I was constantly sleepy, couldn't stay awake and had trouble breathing, not to mention the  more well known side effects.

@KateMidd posted:

I think that we are fed up with too much info about CBD and THC miracle effects. But I can't deny that some do work.

I can. At this point there simply isn't enough research into medical marijuana and particularly CBD. The reason for this is obvious, as being listed as a class A drug delayed, and held back, its research for decades. However, I think much of the acclaim at this point is simply anecdotal with a lot of nonsensical advice (and the illegal practice of medicine) at dispensaries.

I believe in science and data, and was a skeptic of Eastern medicine, chiropractic, etc. my whole life.  That said, I started trying acupuncture and herbal remedies prescribed by a DAOM after I kept hearing how wonderful it was, most loudly from my wife.  I admittedly went in with the intent to disprove and show how it did nothing for me.  I've been going regularly now for over ten years as it has made a tremendous difference in my overall health, as well as treated various ailments when necessary.  It doesn't take the place of my regular MD, but rather compliments his approach.  My MD and DAOM actually support the "other side" and praise the benefits of their peers.

I had the mindset this was a bunch of cr*p and it proved me wrong, so much so that I now swear by it.  I can't explain how it works, but it does.

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@Vino Bevo posted:

I believe in science and data, and was a skeptic of Eastern medicine, chiropractic, etc. my whole life.  That said, I started trying acupuncture and herbal remedies prescribed by a DAOM after I kept hearing how wonderful it was, most loudly from my wife.  I admittedly went in with the intent to disprove and show how it did nothing for me.  I've been going regularly now for over ten years as it has made a tremendous difference in my overall health, as well as treated various ailments when necessary.  It doesn't take the place of my regular MD, but rather compliments his approach.  My MD and DAOM actually support the "other side" and praise the benefits of their peers.

I had the mindset this was a bunch of cr*p and it proved me wrong, so much so that I now swear by it.  I can't explain how it works, but it does.

"I believe in science and data..."

I glad you're better, but nope, anecdotal evidence is evidence of nothing. I'm sorry your MD has had so much pressure put on him by our, to quote Carl Sagan, "Demon-Haunted World" to go along with unproven treatments. And if any of your patent medicines include the nonsense of homeopathy you should know what the word "succussion" means and how it interacts with leather of all things. Read about it, it's a hoot.

@Vino Bevo posted:

You have no idea what my MD thinks, nor do you have any clue regarding anything beyond your own beliefs.  This has been made abundantly clear, at least to me, after reading your constant rants over anything and everything that might fall outside your narrow thinking.  If I don't agree with you then I'm wrong.  Not only is that mind set what's wrong with our country today, it's what made me leave this site.  I've been trying to get back into it over the past few weeks but here we go again.

This will probably get me banned and shock many of the wonderful people I've befriended on this site over the past 20 years, but I'll remain friends with them outside the site and don't much care about posting here again.  FOr those of you wondering why the forums are dead, TOM is a primary reason for many of us.

Go fuck yourself.

Only shocked it took this long for the reaction based on previous interactions that I’ve noticed. We know how to find each other.

@The Old Man posted:

I knew it would only be a matter of minutes before Grover Bill piped in. However, I suspect if we ever get together we would get along just fine.

So your trolling had the desired effect. Congratulations. Perhaps we would if you’re less of a jerk in person, though I do prefer people who are consistent.  Alas, you mentioned a while back that you were in the 4th quarter of life. As you approach the two minute warning, the chance of it happening is dwindling.

@billhike posted:

So your trolling had the desired effect. Congratulations. Perhaps we would if you’re less of a jerk in person, though I do prefer people who are consistent.  Alas, you mentioned a while back that you were in the 4th quarter of life. As you approach the two minute warning, the chance of it happening is dwindling.

I was not trolling for you, I was answering the poster. You, of course, as you always do, chose to pipe in. I don't mind.

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@napacat posted:

You two just kill this site (TOM and BILL).  No wonder no one wants to post anything remotely interesting...all you get are you two pouncing on them.  I often said that I have not met anyone who truly likes wine to be a jerk.  You two are the first...or you truly don't like wine.  Either way...you are the problem.

Right, because such a large percentage of your posts are wine-related. Have you off-lined with anyone from this forum? Do you post tasting notes?

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