Cellar Tracker New vs Classic

With the pending change on Cellar Tracker from the classic to their newly designed site as the default, I'm wondering how many people (on this site, anyway) will be impacted.

Personally, I've continued to use the classic site except for a few data entry tasks where I've found the new site to be better. Not sure if I'll change my shortcut to the site to continue with the classic design or not.
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I like the old one too. Might just be because I'm more familiar with it but I've played around with the new one and definitely don't like it enough to change to it. If they actually did away with the classic I'd get used to it but probably won't change unless I'm forced to.
people hate change. whenever facebook changes the interface, people go up in arms. 2 weeks later, everyone is fine. 6 months later, they change the interface again, and people go up in arms.

LeVine just needs to force everyone into the new system, let the crybabies get used to it, and never look back.
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Originally posted by wineismylife:
I've been using the new version for well over a year now. No problems and getting better by the day.


+1. Not quite a year, but I've been using the new site more than the old at this point. It's drastically changed in the last six months and is much more intuitive now.
I like the new interface, very nice design and i like how some stuff (wine details or notes) remains visible as you scroll down. What i don't like is that editing bottle is not as easy/intuitive as in the old version and i edit a lot as i move bottles between cooler and the main cellar.
I didn't like the grapestories one, but I'll give this latest version a try for a while.

so far, things I like:

- others' tasting notes of bottles I own automatically appear
- I found out that I have 51 fans

things I don't like:

- the search box is on the right instead of the left.
- I found out that I only have 51 fans
This thread may be premature.

From Eric'c letter of 23 November: Following up on our last newsletter, I am excited to announce the imminent launch of redesigned CellarTracker site. Right now we are planning to flip the switch on Monday, November 26.

To my reading, the "new version" of CT people in this thread have been commenting on is about to become the "former new version". Or is the only imminent change making the "new version" the default upon login?
No, I think the new version is the new version. You can switch to it by selecting it in the upper right corner (I think it was upper right). The other new version was grape stories, or something like that.

I have just noticed that I am member #915 on CT. There are currently about 234,000 members. I guess that goes as a positive for the new site Smile
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Originally posted by VinT:
To my reading, the "new version" of CT people in this thread have been commenting on is about to become the "former new version". Or is the only imminent change making the "new version" the default upon login?

The latter was my understanding (the "new" version becoming the default). I suppose on Monday we'll learn the truth of it.

The classic site design is the clear WS fan favorite based on the voting so far, which isn't too surprising given previous comments on the forum. Based on the positive comments regarding the new site I figure I'll give it another try, but given the continuing changes in the "new" site I'll probably elect to stick with the stable classic design. Saves time.
Please see my latest newsletter: https://www.cellartracker.com/...tent.asp?iContent=42

Tomorrow the NEW site will become the default experience. The old site will remain, but you will have to toggle to it by clicking CLASSIC-MODE in the footer. The old site is not going away any time soon.

For Wine-Searcher, look for the very large red button on the right that says $ WHERE TO BUY.

There is no more GrapeStories. Dating back 2.5 years ago, I was both trying to REBRAND and REDESIGN at the same time. After 6 months I realized that rebranding was very misguided. We have been chipping away at the redesign however the whole time and at a much accelerated rate over the 6 months since I brought on board a fulltime developer to help me.

Merengue, I'm not sure what issue you are hitting editing bottles. Please feel free to email me eric@cellartracker.com. The bottle editing is actually pretty beefed up in the new site as compared to the old.
I've been using CT for years and actually really like the new view...

The issue for me is practicality, I like to add a lot of pro reviews and review dates were stored as drop-down choices making input easy...

The new version has a calendar date pick method that for me will be a PITA and as a practical matter will take me more time for entries, and with the amount of weekly inputs I have it's prohibitive.

...If this was addressed I would switch from the classic in a heartbeat. Until then, it has to be the older version.

- Ian
I checked out the new version about a year ago and didn't really like it. This thread prompted me to spend some time on the new CT over the past 24 hours, and I gotta say, I like it. The tweaks that have been made have really improved my experience. I'm sold!

And Eric, I absolutely agree that WS should integrate with CT.
The one thing that I would like to see and it bugs me that I can't do is this:

I use the wish list function as an auction short list. An auction comes up and I make a wishlist of the lots I'm interested in with my prices (or the initial bid). There is no way to either see or export the average community prices and average recent auction price for the list. I can go look (and with the new side bar, hover over) each wine and see it, but I can't make a list and have columns with these there to see what is a good deal or not. Very annoying!
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
The one thing that I would like to see and it bugs me that I can't do is this:

I use the wish list function as an auction short list. An auction comes up and I make a wishlist of the lots I'm interested in with my prices (or the initial bid). There is no way to either see or export the average community prices and average recent auction price for the list. I can go look (and with the new side bar, hover over) each wine and see it, but I can't make a list and have columns with these there to see what is a good deal or not. Very annoying!

Rob, in both the old and the new sites, none of the community pricing info is joined into that view. I can certainly consider that for the future, but it would be entirely new to both sites.
Old school = old fart.

Like the old version, but have not really givemn the new a real try out.

As for the wine edit feature. There are a few bugs here. Got a new wine from Fox Run or somewhere else,2011 Kore Syrah and could not change the wine [grape]. Only allowed a 'basic std' choice. Even going to a search for the grape, searching for a grape that started with "C" only gave me the basic. So my wine in CT is not as it should be.
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Originally posted by Eric LeVine:
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
The one thing that I would like to see and it bugs me that I can't do is this:

I use the wish list function as an auction short list. An auction comes up and I make a wishlist of the lots I'm interested in with my prices (or the initial bid). There is no way to either see or export the average community prices and average recent auction price for the list. I can go look (and with the new side bar, hover over) each wine and see it, but I can't make a list and have columns with these there to see what is a good deal or not. Very annoying!

Rob, in both the old and the new sites, none of the community pricing info is joined into that view. I can certainly consider that for the future, but it would be entirely new to both sites.


I know you can't do it in either the new or old. right now I export the wish list and then click into each one in tun and hard code the info into the open excel spreadsheet. PITA...

I do think the functionality of being able to do what I mentioned would be of great use to anyone that it a regular at auctions. I know I do one for every auction I look at even though it is time consuming in many ways.
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Originally posted by Ed Bowers [i.e. FlWino]:
Old school = old fart.

Like the old version, but have not really givemn the new a real try out.

As for the wine edit feature. There are a few bugs here. Got a new wine from Fox Run or somewhere else,2011 Kore Syrah and could not change the wine [grape]. Only allowed a 'basic std' choice. Even going to a search for the grape, searching for a grape that started with "C" only gave me the basic. So my wine in CT is not as it should be.

Ed, filtering options.

https://www.cellartracker.com/...sp?VarietalQuestions
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
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Originally posted by Eric LeVine:
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
The one thing that I would like to see and it bugs me that I can't do is this:

I use the wish list function as an auction short list. An auction comes up and I make a wishlist of the lots I'm interested in with my prices (or the initial bid). There is no way to either see or export the average community prices and average recent auction price for the list. I can go look (and with the new side bar, hover over) each wine and see it, but I can't make a list and have columns with these there to see what is a good deal or not. Very annoying!

Rob, in both the old and the new sites, none of the community pricing info is joined into that view. I can certainly consider that for the future, but it would be entirely new to both sites.


I know you can't do it in either the new or old. right now I export the wish list and then click into each one in tun and hard code the info into the open excel spreadsheet. PITA...

I do think the functionality of being able to do what I mentioned would be of great use to anyone that it a regular at auctions. I know I do one for every auction I look at even though it is time consuming in many ways.

Yes it would. ANd I said I would look to add it. But right now I am trying to launch a new site...
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Originally posted by Eric LeVine:
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
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Originally posted by Eric LeVine:
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
The one thing that I would like to see and it bugs me that I can't do is this:

I use the wish list function as an auction short list. An auction comes up and I make a wishlist of the lots I'm interested in with my prices (or the initial bid). There is no way to either see or export the average community prices and average recent auction price for the list. I can go look (and with the new side bar, hover over) each wine and see it, but I can't make a list and have columns with these there to see what is a good deal or not. Very annoying!

Rob, in both the old and the new sites, none of the community pricing info is joined into that view. I can certainly consider that for the future, but it would be entirely new to both sites.


I know you can't do it in either the new or old. right now I export the wish list and then click into each one in tun and hard code the info into the open excel spreadsheet. PITA...

I do think the functionality of being able to do what I mentioned would be of great use to anyone that it a regular at auctions. I know I do one for every auction I look at even though it is time consuming in many ways.

Yes it would. ANd I said I would look to add it. But right now I am trying to launch a new site...


Don't get your knickers in a knot! I know the last and next few weeks are going to be your most stressful and busy time in a long time. I was just throwing out an idea I'd like to see and you were good enough to say you'd look into the functionality at some point in the future. C'est tout.
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Originally posted by Eric LeVine:
Wouldn't it be even nicer if the WS collaborated and no paying customer of the WS would have to copy and paste reviews into CT? (We can dream...)


Exactly..Well said, not sure what WS (Or Bobby Parker for that matter) have to lose..

As a paying customer of both, it would not keep me away from other content on their respective sites...

Eric, the new site is miles ahead in look and feel, great job...
Well, now that you've pushed me into the pool, Eric, I like it.
Appreciate the updates/improvements. I know that I'll enjoy/appreciate the new version.

Thanks. It's clear that this has been a labor of love for you. Sincerely, much appreciated. Wink

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