August 2018: What are you drinking?

theoldman posted:
g-man posted:

1982 Leoville Barton

1998 Leoville Barton

 

How cool. 98 is my daughter's birth year; I've put something away, but wouldn't mind options. Could you rate them?

the 82' was fully mature, if even perhaps over the hill if one likes semblance of richer fruit on the palate.  It had a lovely nose of fine blue cheese with a touch of cocoa.  The palate had that taste of bic pen ink that rounds out with dark cocoa nibs and a touch of blackberries on the finish.

the 98' was dusty, brawny wine that had a nose of rich crushed blackberries with hints of ground allspice.  An incredibly lovely mouthfeel of smooth richness showing off currants, wet tobacco leaf and a long lingering finish of blackberries.

both were different but lovely wines.

Last night with Mimik, KSC02 and our so's.

2017 Domaine La Suffrene, Bandol, Rosé

NV    Geoffroy, Champagne, Expression

2002 Louis Brochet, Champagne, Cuvée HbH

2004 Lopez de Heredia, Rioja Bianco, Tondonia

2015 Fournier Père et Fils, Sancerre, Les Belles Vignes

1990 Moulin Touchais, Coteaux du Layon

2004 Alion, RdD

No dogs. The Alion is young, as usual. The LdH Tondonia was really excellent. The previously unknown to me Brochet was also excellent. The Moulin Touchais was also excellent and really worked well with the Indian food.

 

Last night with Italian-style veal chop, rack of lamb, assorted pastas and antipasti, we had

- 2014 Billaud-Simon Chablis Les Clos -- young, tight, but after about 45 min. lots of apple, citrus, mineral, joined later by hints of honey, excellent acidity; probably needs another 2-3 years to develop into something really special

- 2004 Greppicaia Bolgheri -- lots of plum and mineral, silky and light on the palate but intense, with a very long finish with just a hint of fine tannins at the end, seems to be wide open now and should stay that way for a few more years 

2016 Comando G La Bruja de Rozas - pale/translucent red. nose is worth the price of admission alone. cracked black pepper, olive brine & leather, some earthy/herbal notes that follow through on the palate wrapped around a core of cherry.  Really enjoyed this.

NV Gruet BdN. This is always dependable, but damn, tonight's bottle is punching way above weight. Hint of pink/salmon color with the gold. Fine bead that is still lively over an hour after opening. Biscuit aromas with some strawberry and cream. Same on the palate with the addition of lemon and ginger. Fantastic balance. Haven't paid $14 for many (if any) bottles showing as well as this one. 

2014 Louis Max Gevrey-Chambertin Les Azerottes - lucked into a couple cases of these on markdown.  Popped and poured one at a Vietnamese restaurant tonight to accompany a 7 Courses of Beef menu along with an entree of caramelized catfish in claypot.  The wine worked well with the variety of savory and sweet notes commonly found in Vietnamese cuisine.  I would be inclined to let these sit for a couple years, but no harm in drinking some now.

A couple of nights ago with a handful of the MD crew:  Big Napa Cabs theme.

2015 Arnot Roberts Chardonnay Trout Gulch Vineyard; one of the better domestic chardonnays around. Very approachable and balanced with minerality, citrus acidity, and very little oak. 

2006 Domaine Ponsot Cuvee des Alouettes Morey St Denis 1er cru; just a knockout of a wine, smoky, black cherry, with lingering acidity and a long finish.  A bit of funk blew off after about 15-30 minutes. 

2002 Joseph Phelps Insignia; just fantastic, balanced, seamless, no hard edges.  

2002 Spottswoode Estate vineyard; the most Bordeaux like of them all, a bit of cedar wood, oak and vanilla, red currants, perhaps the wine showing more tannins and the more restrained wine.  would love to try at year 20.  

2005 Araujo Eisele Vineyard; was fun to try side by side with the Insignia as they share fruit from same vineyard.  Classy classy wine that felt quite young still. Has all the ingredients to be great. 

2006 Continuum; surprisingly drinking so well, balanced, silky and fruit with ultrafine tannins. Might have just edged the Insignia for WOTN but they were all so good it is hard to pick

2007 Outpost Howell Mountain; a bit of the outlier of the bunch. Still a baby, dense deep dark fruit punch that just slams the palate upfront.  With more air it got significantly better. Will be a great wine but its just a baby now despite it showing no tannins. 

We had the big cabs with a terrific prime strip roast cooked by cometspider. 

 

2007 Rotari Trento Flavio Talento

100% Chardonnay, traditional method, disgorged in 2014. Nice yeasty, nutty character thanks to 60 months on its lees. Major detractor for me: it's on the sweet side with 9 g/L dosage.

2011 J & J Eger Kékfrankos Eged-Hegy Dülö

I think this was a tip from VinT. My second of three bottles. I like it, but I still haven't wrapped my head around what I'm tasting. There are notes I just can't identify.

2015 Baudry Chinon Les Granges - Mrs. VeV exclaimed "It smells like armpits - in a good way if that makes any sense?" it does, and I like it.  Dont care who knows.

2012 Clos Ouvert Primavera - very funky/earthy/smoky.  Worked great with loads of galbi.

2015 Joan D'Anguera Altaroses - decanted for 2 hrs. wasn't thrilled with this bottle. Seemed to hit you with a bunch of tannin then this hollow midpalate that follows disappoints, then some fruit pokes through. not sure if this bottle is representative of what it could be, but i'm going to keep my hands off the others i have for some time in hopes that it finds some semblance of balance.

2015 Mercouri Estate Antares - 60% Avgoustiatis/40% Mouvedre from the Western Peloponnese.  Warm climate wine, no hard edges.  Nice dark/black fruit profile with coffee notes and some mourvedre funk.  Nice wine, interesting to try.

 

Last night with a few of the locals:

NV Jacquesson No. 736 Degorgement Tardiff

2011 Chapoutier St. Joseph Les Granits Blanc

2011 Krupp Brothers Vivace Ermitage Blanc (served blind)

1997 Gaja Darmagi

1997 Jaboulet Hermitage La Chapelle

2002 Argiolas Turriga Isola dei Nuraghi

Last night for our 31st Anniversary:

2004 Dom Perignon Champagne
1987 Chateau Montelena Cabernet Sauvignon The Montelena Estate

Love the Dom, but the Montelena was in a league of its own again.  A well stored bottle of this should have no problem going another 20 years. 

 

With Steve8 last night:

- 2002 H Billiot Champagne GC Brut

- 2011 Leeuwin Chardonnay Art Series

- 2009 Aubert Chardonnay Ritchie Vineyard

- 2007 Beaucastel Blanc Vieilles VIgnes

- 1977 Dow Vintage Port

- Remy Martin Cognac XO

A glass of the latter did me in. Never again!

 

Until next time, anyway.

g-man posted:

2013 Anthill farms Harmony vineyards.

A great tart cherry pinot with notes of ground earthy spices with bright midbody that lingers around with a sweet bark bitterness on the finish.

Where can I get my hands on some sweet bark with bitterness on the finish. Asking for a friend

seaquam posted:

With Steve8 last night:

- 2002 H Billiot Champagne GC Brut

- 2011 Leeuwin Chardonnay Art Series

- 2009 Aubert Chardonnay Ritchie Vineyard

- 2007 Beaucastel Blanc Vieilles VIgnes

- 1977 Dow Vintage Port

- Remy Martin Cognac XO

A glass of the latter did me in. Never again!

 

Until next time, anyway.

Nice stuff. Was Steve8 visiting or were you?

seaquam posted:

Steve was in Vancouver.

But funny you should ask, Mim. Mrs. S and I will be in your town Sept 30 - Oct 4. I was going to post about this in the Offlines forum in a couple of weeks, but I guess the cat’s out of the bag now, eh?😀

That would awesome!! Keep us posted !!

seaquam posted:

With Steve8 last night:

- 2002 H Billiot Champagne GC Brut

- 2011 Leeuwin Chardonnay Art Series

- 2009 Aubert Chardonnay Ritchie Vineyard

- 2007 Beaucastel Blanc Vieilles VIgnes

- 1977 Dow Vintage Port

- Remy Martin Cognac XO

A glass of the latter did me in. Never again!

 

Until next time, anyway.

Wonderful evening with great friends. Thank you Seaq & S.

The 3 whites and the Billiot were all outstanding. Hard pressed to pick the best, I think I would lean to the Beaucastel.

Even though Dow is probably my favourite VP, for my tastes this '77 was a little past it's best before date. It was a very good way to finish the meal with a little Stilton.  

mangiare posted:

2009 Domaine Billaud-Simon Chablis 1er Cru Mont de Milieu
1999 D'Alceo
1988 Cos D'Estournel
1997 Altesino Montosoli 

How did the Montosoli show? We had one and the regular at the annual trip both in magnums. Montosoli was very good while regular was tired. Wondering what your experience was?

Last night, a bottle of 2008 Domaine Serene Pinot Noir Evenstad Reserve, which surprisingly and unfortunately has faded from its previous glory, silky but short on fruit. This was my next to last of 8 bottles, stored well, and I expected it to hold, if not improve, for a few more years. I'll open the last one soon.

On a different note, the restaurant where we went had a dish of linguini with Saskatchewan chanterelles and fresh corn. The chanterelles were small and quite intensely flavoured, possibly the best I've ever had. I didn't even know that they grew in Saskatchewan, and they're much better than the ones I can source locally. Also an unusual time of year to see chanterelles on menus or in markets (usually spring or fall).

bomba503 posted:
mangiare posted:

2009 Domaine Billaud-Simon Chablis 1er Cru Mont de Milieu
1999 D'Alceo
1988 Cos D'Estournel
1997 Altesino Montosoli 

How did the Montosoli show? We had one and the regular at the annual trip both in magnums. Montosoli was very good while regular was tired. Wondering what your experience was?

The Montosoli was fab. In a lovely spot with beautiful sweet tannins and luscious fruit. The best of the three reds, and there were no slouches in that department, so that’s saying a lot.

sunnylea57 posted:
bomba503 posted:
mangiare posted:

2009 Domaine Billaud-Simon Chablis 1er Cru Mont de Milieu
1999 D'Alceo
1988 Cos D'Estournel
1997 Altesino Montosoli 

How did the Montosoli show? We had one and the regular at the annual trip both in magnums. Montosoli was very good while regular was tired. Wondering what your experience was?

The Montosoli was fab. In a lovely spot with beautiful sweet tannins and luscious fruit. The best of the three reds, and there were no slouches in that department, so that’s saying a lot.

Absolutely agree. The Montosoli is absolutely singing right now. 

we also drank a 2010 Girardin Saint-Aubin 1er Cru Les Murgers des Dents de Chien

I was boxing the empties last night and there was still 1/3 of the Cos left in an open bottle. Thought I'd give it a taste and shockingly it was still in good shape and I might even say, slightly better than Saturday night. 
 

Bytown Rick posted:

2004 Grosset-Hill Smith Mesh Riesling.  Yummy.

These seem to be holding up very nicely.  I brought one to a restaurant earlier in the summer and thought it was the best yet.

We had it with Ethiopian/Eritrean food and thought it paired really well.

Saturday evening, 2015 Lafond Tavel Roc Epine, a very nice Rosé, and 2012 William Fevre Chablis Montee de Tonnerre, which has excellent citrusy acidity,  very mineral, and very long finish, outstanding Chablis.

Last night with grilled burgers, 2006 Phelps Insignia, which was very good but far from great, nice dark fruit but almost overshadowed by earthiness and a green, leafy element, long finish with plenty of tannin at the end.  Much better with food than without. Might still improve, if the fruit can outlive a lot of the tannin.

merengue posted:

2008 Domaine Serene Evenstad pinot noir. I recall seeing a not from Seaquam? recently stating concern for the lack of fruit. My bottle had tons of fruit, still felt like it can go many more years.

Glad to hear that, Merengue.  I was totally surprised by this wine a couple of weeks ago, and am thinking based on your comment that perhaps it was just an off bottle. I still have one more, and expect to open it sooner rather than later, so I'm hoping it'll be like yours. 

NV Henriot Champagne Brut Souverain. Of the high-production houses with wide distribution, this is easily one of our favorites. It took some warming up to get to a nice firm, toasty flavor with minerals, apple and citrus. Bought a couple on sale for $30 this past weekend. 

Haven't posted in this thread for a while, so some catching up on some highlights...

2009 Paolo Scavino Cannubi - drinking well

2009 Silvio Grasso Barolo Annunziata Vigna Picotti - drinking well

2016 Bruno Giacosa Roero Arneis - always great

1964 Terre del Barolo Barolo Riserva Speciale - amazing

1964 Terre del Barolo Barolo Riserva Speciale - 2 for 2 outstanding.  Sweet red cherries, burgundian character.  Beautiful.  Amazing colour for its age.

1998 Jacquart Brut - wonderful, full, mature notes but not oxidized.

1975 Suduiraut, has developed since last bottle but only getting better with more age.  Great dock wine!

1996 Cicala  - pooced, over the hill.  Second bottle like this, from different sources, years apart.  First time I thought 'storage issues', second time I'm wondering if its just not a great vintage for Cicala.

2004 Chiara Boschis Cannubi - over the hill. Likely poor storage (from an Enoteca in Monforte d'Alba)

2006 Ornellaia - wonderful.

2006 Parusso Barolo LeCoste Monforte - has developed since last bottle and drinking beautifully now. 

1996 Luigi Pira Barolo Marenca - sublime.  In a great spot, probably at peak. 

2013 L'Ecole 41 Walla Walla Cab Sauv - drinking really nicely despite its youth

1997 Dante Rivetti Barbaresco Bricco de Neueis Riserva - over the hill, oxidized imo. Seems like a warm vintage nebbiolo with too much age.  

2013 Bersano Barolo Nirvasco - lighter in body than the 2010 but still a great qpr Barolo for early/mid drinking

2001 Cos d'Estournel - solidly into its drinking window. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bytown Rick posted:
sunnylea57 posted:

2013 Hamilton Russell Vineyards Chardonnay

Nice fat mouth feel. Citrus fruit plus a reductive struck match note.

OK.  But you liked it?

I did like this bottle. I like a little struck match as long as it's not overwhelming the fruit.

I've had 3 bottles of this so far and they've been inconsistent. The first had strong orange rind and warm vanilla notes. The second was "meh" - although I don't recall why. This one was the best.

sunnylea57 posted:

2014 Norman Hardie Pinot Noir Unfiltered

Had a couple of these lingering in the cellar. Can’t bring myself to dumping them. It’s actually one of the better Ontario Pinots I’ve tried - although the taste is now and forever tainted by his actions.

I bought a bunch of the 2015 Unfiltered Chardonnay at a substantial discount when the LCBO was dumping his wines recently.  The critics reviews seemed quite positive ("surprising amount of fruit on display... ripe stone fruit notes... balanced acids and big flavour depth"), so I figured it would be a good value purchase.  

I would generally agree about the big fruit flavour, but I also found it to be flabby and lacking in structure, so much so that I did not find it enjoyable.  The remaining bottles have been moved down to the boathouse fridge waiting on some unsuspecting guest.

otw posted:
sunnylea57 posted:

2014 Norman Hardie Pinot Noir Unfiltered

Had a couple of these lingering in the cellar. Can’t bring myself to dumping them. It’s actually one of the better Ontario Pinots I’ve tried - although the taste is now and forever tainted by his actions.

I bought a bunch of the 2015 Unfiltered Chardonnay at a substantial discount when the LCBO was dumping his wines recently.  The critics reviews seemed quite positive ("surprising amount of fruit on display... ripe stone fruit notes... balanced acids and big flavour depth"), so I figured it would be a good value purchase.  

I would generally agree about the big fruit flavour, but I also found it to be flabby and lacking in structure, so much so that I did not find it enjoyable.  The remaining bottles have been moved down to the boathouse fridge waiting on some unsuspecting guest.

Fish food?

i haven't tried the Hardie Chard, but now I'll be sure to avoid it.

sunnylea57 posted:
otw posted:
sunnylea57 posted:

2014 Norman Hardie Pinot Noir Unfiltered

Had a couple of these lingering in the cellar. Can’t bring myself to dumping them. It’s actually one of the better Ontario Pinots I’ve tried - although the taste is now and forever tainted by his actions.

I bought a bunch of the 2015 Unfiltered Chardonnay at a substantial discount when the LCBO was dumping his wines recently.  The critics reviews seemed quite positive ("surprising amount of fruit on display... ripe stone fruit notes... balanced acids and big flavour depth"), so I figured it would be a good value purchase.  

I would generally agree about the big fruit flavour, but I also found it to be flabby and lacking in structure, so much so that I did not find it enjoyable.  The remaining bottles have been moved down to the boathouse fridge waiting on some unsuspecting guest.

Fish food?

i haven't tried the Hardie Chard, but now I'll be sure to avoid it.

I am in no way condoning what he is alleged to have done.  It is unacceptable now and was unacceptable then.

But Hardie made some nice wines, and nudged Canada up on the worldwide wine stage.  I prefer the Prince Edward County wines to the ones from Niagara, and the 2013 Chardonnay is a favourite.  Lemons and apples, long finish.  Drinking well now, and over the next few years.

Last night we had some friends from SF join us for dinner at the nearby fish shack, with

- 2002 Bollinger Grande Année-- beautiful gold colour, rich in texture, good acidity, a bit of hazelnut on the long finish, excellent and time to drink

- 2008 Marc Brocard Chablis Les Clos-- pale, light but intense, citrus, mineral, very clean, textbook Chablis, very nice but not remarkable

- 2012 Hamilton Russell Chardonnay-- another beautiful golden wine, esp. when viewed next to the Chablis; rich ripe fruit nose, lots of apple, honey, mineral, very silky, long finish, lovely wine. I remain grateful to DoktaP for posting about this wine in these forums, because it's been a true bargain for a Chardonnay of this quality IMHO. I still have at least a couple from each vintage 2011-2015, and more than a case of the 2016 which we love.

1995 heidsieck blanc des millenaires - wowed by this wine again last night 
2001 Altesino Montosoli - needed a decant after a 4+ hour slow-ox. Very good but not showing as well as the 1997 a few weeks ago. Based on last night I would say this needs another 3-5 years to display more sweetness and shed some rough tannin that are still present.  

mangiare posted:

1995 heidsieck blanc des millenaires - wowed by this wine again last night 
2001 Altesino Montosoli - needed a decant after a 4+ hour slow-ox. Very good but not showing as well as the 1997 a few weeks ago. Based on last night I would say this needs another 3-5 years to display more sweetness and shed some rough tannin that are still present.  

Interesting on your Montosoli ... I popped and poured one at the cellar after dinner when Sarbuze was in town last month, and it was pretty awesome right out of the gate, and continued to improve as it warmed up. The bottle didn't last very long, that's for sure! I didn't find the tannins harsh at all. Is there still upside? Sure. But it was very, very tasty that night.

So far this weekend:

2015 Henri Prudhon & Fils Saint-Aubin 1er Cru Les Perrières

2015 Pieropan Soave Classico La Rocca

1994 Faustino Rioja I Gran Reserva

1999 La Granja Nuestra Señora de Remelluri Rioja Gran Reserva

The ‘94 Faustino came across as much younger than the Remelluri. Both were a pleasure to drink, but the Remelluri was by far the better wine and in a lovely spot. 

sunnylea57 posted:

So far this weekend:

2015 Henri Prudhon & Fils Saint-Aubin 1er Cru Les Perrières

 

What did you think of this, Sunny? It’s available here $53.

I’ve not had a St Aubin that’s impressed me, but would love to have that perception changed.

Last night, 2015 Duboeuf Julienas Chateau de Capitans, which we like a lot, tons of dark fruit, just enough tannin to help it stand up to most meats (and esp roast chicken), good acidity, and inexpensive.

Tomight, 2014 Mark Haisma Santenay Blanc Saint Jean, floral nose, melon, pear, light citrus flavours, bit of mineral, good acidity, silky, notes of Brazil nut on the long finish, excellent. Or to use my lovely wife’s one-word descriptor, “Yummy!” 😋

sunnylea57 posted:

1994 Faustino Rioja I Gran Reserva

1999 La Granja Nuestra Señora de Remelluri Rioja Gran Reserva

The ‘94 Faustino came across as much younger than the [99] Remelluri. 

I've run into this several times now with Spanish producers and it's got me wondering if I should be asking to see a birth certificate.

2916 Enfield Rosé of Pinot Noir - Antle Vineyard. Jumped out of the glass, strawberry, orange peel, minerality and a little saline. So much fruit you almost thought it has some RS but I don't think it does. Chuggable but still more than serious enough to stand up to real food.

I've never had a bad bottle of Enfield.

 

seaquam posted:
jcocktosten posted:

1997 Robert  Mondavi Stags Leap Cab for 21st anniversary with lamb chops

I’ve never known you to refer to her as “lamb chops” before, but it is a very nice term of endearment, I think.

Big congratulations to the two of you!!

Thanks. We are both laughing hysterically   

seaquam posted:
sunnylea57 posted:

So far this weekend:

2015 Henri Prudhon & Fils Saint-Aubin 1er Cru Les Perrières

 

What did you think of this, Sunny? It’s available here $53.

I’ve not had a St Aubin that’s impressed me, but would love to have that perception changed.

I’ve slowly been drinking and enjoying a case Girardin’s st Aubin however not sure the QPR is there in current vintages.  

Made a trip out to Differentdave's house for a light get together

1988 Troplong Mondot

2004 Hospice du Beaune - I dont recall the vigneron

2015 Andremily

2009 Larkmead Solari

1963 Dows

1970 Croft

1970 Dows

1978 Quady's

1985 Churchills

NV Taylor Tawny OBV from the 70s.

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