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Originally posted by baird6869:
_Leaf fans (or Leaf haters)..._

I have it under very good authority that Sundin has a bigger problem than we have been led to believe.

There is a chance that he is done for the year. The injury might be a groin injury, not the ankle, but who knows.

Keep in mind that Toronto plays amazingly when Sundin is out........


Like it makes a difference. Sundin turns into Mr. Invisible come springtime
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Like it makes a difference. Sundin turns into Mr. Invisible come springtime

Doujet
Let's be fair.
Sundin becomes Mr. Invisible because opponents have their top defensive player(s) shadow him...
Contribution is a subjective term...
What Sundin can do, if he plays, is draw the Flyers top defensive line and/or defense pair, this would allow the Leafs secondary lines more of a chance to score.
Make no mistake, having Sundin out hurts the Buds.

I offer sound advice.
That's 99% sound and 1% advice
Funny how much you like a guy like Tucker when he is on your side. He is a pain in the ass, plain and simple. Other teams hate him as he drives them nuts. He is very popular in Toronto.

I bet Ulf Sammuelson had fans in the cities he played in and Sammuelson is much worse than Tucker will ever be.

That is a cheap shot artist...
Hey, Dad, we're exiled Sharks fans, living in Texas. The last time we went to a Sharks playoff game was in Dallas. Our tickets had "Stars Club" on them so I went in to use the facilities, wearing my nice teal jersey Big Grin Dallas fans are awfully polite.

Hopefully we'll be able to get tickets to the NEXT round in San Jose and maybe an offline.
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Originally posted by tyee:
Doujet
Let's be fair.
Sundin becomes Mr. Invisible because opponents have their top defensive player(s) shadow him...
Contribution is a subjective term...
What Sundin can do, if he plays, is draw the Flyers top defensive line and/or defense pair, this would allow the Leafs secondary lines more of a chance to score.
Make no mistake, having Sundin out hurts the Buds.

I offer sound advice.
That's 99% sound and 1% advice



With all due respect, the same can be said for every star player at this time of the year. The difference is that some players thrive under pressure and deliver; others wilt.

Sundin first started his disappearance act with the Nordiques in 93 (the last year the Habs won the Cup). The team traded him and kept Joe Sakic. Joe's gone to win 2 cups for the now re-located Avs. What's Mats done?
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Originally posted by bman:
Of course my heart is broken, but of course I am used to it after 35 years as a Bruins fan. A true fan does not abandon his team even when they find yet another way to lose to the Hated Habs.

Bruins rule! (please!!!!)


Bman,
I am suffering right there with you.
I was at the 1990 Stanely cup final where the B's lost in triple overtime to the Oilers on a goal by Peter Klima (It still hurts, they were swept that series) Mad As long as Jacobs is the owner, the Bruins will not win another stanely cup Mad

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"I have lived temperately ... I double the doctor's recommendation
of a glass and a half of wine a day and even treble it with a friend." - Thomas Jefferson
barcaman - I'm going out on a limb here and guessing that you're not Spanish, notwithstanding your WS forums address?

I put the blame for the Bruins only on the team as a whole. Several times, this year included, they showed character during the season only to leave early in the playoffs. What I think they lack is a Cam Neely/Ray Borque-style character player, who will step up in the playoffs and make it happen. Those guys were big scorers with big salaries, but lesser scorers can still fill that role in the playoffs. Thornton could have become the player he is expected to eventually be, but either he never will, or he was truly hurt badly enough that he just couldn't.

I'm not crazy about Harry Sinden either.

Bruins rule!
Bman. I thought Boston was inconsistent all year long. They only finished 2nd because of all the ties they managed. Agree that Thornton is an under-achiever, but I do think he was hurting in the playoffs. Still haven't seen what his injury was for sure other than "rib". Very uncomfortable injury. Sinden has to go. The only players that should be exempt from a "house-cleaning" are Raycroft and Samsonov. Nylander if he wants to stay.

Oh yeah. Gotta love the Lightning. Can you say 4 straight??
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Joe Thornton played with a torn cartilage between his rib cage.
Give Thornton credit, he got this injury in the last week of the regular season, its' suppose to take 6 weeks for that type of injury to heal...if you don't play!
I've played with rib injuries back in my day (bruised-cracked-broken ribs)...imagine trying to play hockey with every contact, every movement, every pass or shot, every breath causing sharp excruciating pain.
I admire Thornton, he sucked it up and played pretty damn good considering...and made no excuses.
I think he exemplifies what a Boston Bruin player is suppose to be...

I offer sound advice.
That's 99% sound and 1% advice
tyee,

I think Bobo Vinifera has a good ring to it.

I'm still gonna sit quietly and save the trash talking. My nicknames I've screamed so far from row 6:

"Melt Down Man" at Pronger also "Moron", "Idiot", "Dolt"
"Old Man" Tkachuk
"Flopper" at Forsberg
"Turtle" at Barnaby
"Scratch" Selanne (14 goals, 16 assists, 270 dives, all for 6 million a year.)

The Avs looked like a swim team. All they needed was speedos and the little eye glasses to complete the diving outfits.

Tony Granato's coaching started out as "Try what St. Louis did" the Blues exiting 4 games to 1 might have been a clue but, after lossing 5-2 and 4-1, it became "Flop around on the ice like a dead fish and see if you can get a penalty".

I will take bets on how fast he's unemployeed though. 2 days is the over under.

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tlily

Did you and Vitis have a bet? Razz
I've no comment on your 'Av Diving' accusations, but I'm pretty sure Vitis will have something to say...
Eek Wink Big Grin

Sharks vs Flames...this should be a great match-up. Two Teams that play a similar style, and both have hot goalies.

BTW...time to review my second round picks:

Tyee Predictions:

Red Wings over the Flames in 5 games.
Wow, was I wrong!

Sharks over the Avs in 7 games.
OK...it was in 6 games...so sue me!

Habs over the Lightning in 7 games.
A Double - Wow, was I wrong!

Flyers over the Leafs in 6 games.
Right on the nose.

2 for 4 just doesn't cut it.


My Division Championship predictions:

Sharks over the Flames in 7 games.

Flyers over the Lightning in 6 games.

tlily...want to bet on the Sharks - Flames series?
Though I predict the Sharks to win, I'm not opposed to betting on the Flames just to make it interesting...hell they proved me wrong the last series...

I offer sound advice.
That's 99% sound and 1% advice
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tlily

I may drive across the border once every two years, but I would think alot depends on the date and/or day of the week and/or time of day.
Crossing into Canada from the U.S. may not be as daunting as the opposite.
I've heard of border line-ups 4 - 6 hours long.

Living on Vancouver Island, I usually book passage on a Wash. State ferry from Victoria. Customs is present at the ferry terminals on both sides.

There is a privately owned foot pass. ferry right out of downtown Seattle into downtown Victoria
web page here
...or a Wash State ferry web page here

BTW, I like the coaching match-up in our series, Wilson vs Sutter...it will be very interesting.

I offer sound advice.
That's 99% sound and 1% advice
As much as I would like to see Tampa Bay smacked around and have them lose to the Flyers, I think they will probably win.

I am torn over who to root for in the west. I like that Ron Wilson, ex-coach for the Caps, is doing so well with the Sharks, so I kind of what to root for the Sharks. BUT, I have LOVED watching the practically rabid Calgary fans. The flaming hair their fans sometimes wear is hilarious. Besides, it'd be kewl to see a Canadian team in the Stanley Cup Finals. But, while I think I'd like Calgary to win, I think the Sharks will do it.

www.vinocellar.com -- Mm-Mm-good
I did not think the Flyers played better or worst than the first game but when your goalie turns cold, this is what happened and the Flyers laid low in the third period when they could have scored one or two more on two 5 on 3 but decided not to get injured and to avoid putting someone in front of that noname goalie they had in there.
I think Tampa will rebound strong but Philly will win in 6.

Out west: Go flames! I'd rather the Flyers play the Flames than San jose.
From down close on Sunday, the Sharks dominated the Flames. Especially after the first period. The Flames D could not cope with the Sharks speed and struggled to move the puck. Hannan shut down Iginla, like he did with Tkachuk and Forsberg. (I tipped you on him first, remember TJ?) Of course that means nothing against a hot goalie, or a bad line change not a damn thing.

Should be a great game tonight.

I think speed is the word this year: Tampa 4-2. They got cooked last night, but that's common for young teams in the playoffs. They usually have a couple games they just melt down in.

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It will be fun to see how the Sharks play under the pressure...
When you lose game one in your own building, the underlying urgency is you HAVE TO WIN game two.

Calgary's defense operates a little differently than most...it will also be interesting to see how they handle San Jose' physical-ness in game two. They struggled with the Ricci-Thornton-CheeChoo (or is it Hannan on that line?) line in particular.

It appears Calgary's defensive zone coverage (which most of the Teams are playing as well) is primarily a wagon wheel (to use a simple term), with the slot being the hub, and all the pressure being exerted outwards like spokes in the wheel.
Calgary's D-men seemed to only be concerned with body position low in their own zone while everyone else collapses to the net...this allowed the Sharks to move the puck somewhat around the perimeter. Point shot lanes were usually closed down with shots being blocked or deflected, and any attempt to set up a shot in the 'Red Zone' was met with pressure.

A must win for San Jose (and tlily Wink) tonight.

Philly and Tampa

Can Tampa rebound from that pounding.
Can Tampa's coach Tortorella rebound...don't forget, the series shifts back to Philly where Hitchcock will have last change, thus the upper hand in matching lines.

I offer sound advice.
That's 99% sound and 1% advice
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