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sunnylea57sunnylea57Member
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Originally posted by Seaquam:
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
I love Colville's work. If you are a fan, Christopher Pratt from Newfoundland is much in the same vein. His wife Mary is a fantastic artist herself (and probably the more famous) but Christopher's work really speaks to me.

Amazing man as well. I had lunch with him a number of years ago at his studio in St. Mary's where he showed me a number of paintings he wasn't happy with, some of which were really wonderful. He was burning them one by one as we ate. It was heart wrenching.


We were just talking about Mary Pratt a couple of days ago! Some of her works are currently displayed in the National Gallery in Ottawa-- jam jars that are remarkably realistic, like a very sharp photograph. We were pretty impressed, and went back to see them a second time before we left the gallery.

Was this the show that's been traveling the country for the past 2 years? If so, it was remarkable! We saw it at the McMichael Gallery in Kleinburg. Another major retrospective like the Colville show.

It was interesting to watch the films where she demonstrated her methodology - she takes photographs and projects them onto the canvas as her guideline - and directly addressed her detractors who have said she's more of a copyist than an artist.

Really it's not much different than artists who draw a grid on the canvas as well as on their original source material... Or those who painstakingly measure the location of key points in the source material so that they can replicate the proportions on the canvas.

I've tried all three methods my own paintings, and I've painted without any guidance. It really depends on what I'm trying to achieve.

Ultimately, what Mary Pratt achieves when she applies the paint to the canvas isn't something that just anyone with a projector can achieve. It takes real skill and talent. Her ability to capture refracted and reflected light is phenomenal.
sunnylea57sunnylea57Member
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
I love Colville's work. If you are a fan, Christopher Pratt from Newfoundland is much in the same vein. His wife Mary is a fantastic artist herself (and probably the more famous) but Christopher's work really speaks to me.

Amazing man as well. I had lunch with him a number of years ago at his studio in St. Mary's where he showed me a number of paintings he wasn't happy with, some of which were really wonderful. He was burning them one by one as we ate. It was heart wrenching.

Very cool, Rob! I agree about the throughline from Colville to Christopher Pratt. I met him briefly a year or two ago when he had a show at a gallery in Yorkville.
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by fcs:
Wife and I just spent 4 fantastic days in Santa Fe with W + A and his lovely wife. Great food, great art, hiking, the works.

However, W + A, you gave us both hangovers, so any buyer's remorse over art sold to you is cancelled out by the excessive wine you made us drink Razz

Thanks again, mate. Super fun week!


It was a great few days, fcs. We look forward to your next visit.

The three pieces we bought from you are at the framers, and the sculpture will be installed next week we have be advised. Cool
sunnylea57sunnylea57Member
Took in the current "Picturing the Americas" exhibition today at the Art Gallery of Ontario, along with the Emily Carr exhibition. Not a huge fan of Carr, but it was worth it to see her progression as an artist - her move from fastidious and rather boring landscapes to bold, cubism-inspired works in the late 1920s and early 1930s, and her later loose, fluid work (literally, as she painted with a mix of oil paint and gasoline).

The Americas exhibition of landscapes was exhaustive and often repetitive. But a few pieces jumped out. My favourite, by leaps and bounds, was the massive Niagara Falls (1878) by William Morris Hunt. Impossible to get a sense of its power - and the paint technique - from this little image:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/w..._-_Niagara_Falls.jpg

I also loved the exquisite realism of Albert Bierstadt’s Yosemite Valley (1868):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/w...Yellowstone_Park.jpg

...and Georgia O’Keeffe’s Black Mesa Landscape, New Mexico/Out Back of Marie’s II:

http://artseverydayliving.com/...ack-of-mary-s-ii.jpg

We also headed up to the top floors to see the exhibit by Stephen Andrews, a Toronto photographer and contemporary artist.

And for me, no visit to the AGO would be complete with a stop to once again see Kent by Chuck Close. Mesmerizing.
F fcsMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by fcs:
Wife and I just spent 4 fantastic days in Santa Fe with W + A and his lovely wife. Great food, great art, hiking, the works.

However, W + A, you gave us both hangovers, so any buyer's remorse over art sold to you is cancelled out by the excessive wine you made us drink Razz

Thanks again, mate. Super fun week!


It was a great few days, fcs. We look forward to your next visit.

The three pieces we bought from you are at the framers, and the sculpture will be installed next week we have be advised. Cool


Superb! I would love to see both of them. Send pics to the fan club!
F fcsMember
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Alberto Gálvez


like his color choices, limited palette and "quiet" tones.


Just saw that Broad Museum storage picture. First painting I saw was that big George Condo piece. Do any of you have an opinion on this guy's work?
I see the varied technique, but his subject matter is one portrait after another. My $.02
S seaquamMember
After a quick trip to Seattle to view the actual works on display, we bought a beautiful piece of sculpture by Washington State's Will Robinson. We already have one of his works, but there were 4 in this exhibition that I loved and had trouble choosing from, though cost and display space severely limited me to just one.

In any event, a few of you know that I've been looking to acquire a large sculpture for our entranceway for some time now. I'm very excited that the quest is finally over. Now I just have to be patient until mid-October for delivery. Smile
K ksc02Member
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Originally posted by mangiare:
Congrats Seaquam!

+1

Looking at the works via the link provided I cannot help but notice a seemingly phalic influence in several of his pieces. Not all, certainly, but more than enough to be notable. Now I'm not suggesting that you have sought out such a piece for your home entrance...but if you did so be it and I applaud your style. Wink

That said, I also appreciate his use of natural materials and their interweaving to contemporary shape. Well Done, Seaquam. I've no doubt that the piece will be stunning upon entry to your home.
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by mangiare:
Congrats Seaquam!

+1

Looking at the works via the link provided I cannot help but notice a seemingly phalic influence in several of his pieces. Not all, certainly, but more than enough to be notable. Now I'm not suggesting that you have sought out such a piece for your home entrance...but if you did so be it and I applaud your style. Wink

That said, I also appreciate his use of natural materials and their interweaving to contemporary shape. Well Done, Seaquam. I've no doubt that the piece will be stunning upon entry to your home.


First off, congratulations to Sea and S.

Sea, I could not help but notice you failed to mention your new piece for your bathroom you sent me. Razz

Please forward me a photo of your new sculpture. Also, I'm guessing VinT shared a picture with you of our new 6' sculpture.
S seaquamMember
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Originally posted by KSC02:

Looking at the works via the link provided I cannot help but notice a seemingly phalic influence in several of his pieces. Not all, certainly, but more than enough to be notable.




Uh-oh! The piece we bought is indeed a bit phallic, but it also has a large round hole in it. Now I feel a bit confused and disoriented by this purchase.

I think I may have to discuss this with my therapist. Big Grin
K ksc02Member
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Originally posted by Seaquam:
Uh-oh! The piece we bought is indeed a bit phallic, but it also has a large round hole in it. Now I feel a bit confused and disoriented by this purchase.

I think I may have to discuss this with my therapist. Big Grin

Big Grin

Thank you for the link sent, Seaquam. I beautiful piece indeed and much less phallic than other works I viewed.

The painting in your bathroom however... Eek
Entertaining indeed! I would be concerned, however, of anyone spending an extraordinary length of time there and might feel inclined to check the surrounding porcelin afterwards Wink

A super piece, btw.
K ksc02Member
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Originally posted by wine+art:
...the Alfred Taubman art collection... One of the very finest personal collections I know of.

Curious upon what you base your statement, w+a. Diversity, specific artists, specific pieces, themes?

There are several individuals whose collections would completely eclipse the Taubman collection.
So simply, sincerely, curious.
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
...the Alfred Taubman art collection... One of the very finest personal collections I know of.

Curious upon what you base your statement, w+a. Diversity, specific artists, specific pieces, themes?

There are several individuals whose collections would completely eclipse the Taubman collection.
So simply, sincerely, curious.


K, oh my goodness. If D was not telling to me to open the next bottle.... Soon, my dear friend. Big Grin
W wine+artMember
K, I have been a fan of his collection for well over 30 years. I seriously doubt he owns a single piece of art that I would not only love, but admire. The sheer depth for me from what I consider to be the finest periods in all of art ( too may ebbs and flows, and we know which we are now under) is beyond impressive.

High Renaissance, German Expression, Emerging Modern, true Modern, ( 1906-1956) Dada, sculpture, NY school, Abstract Expressionist, finest Pop, slight touches of American and limited contemporary. Equally important for me are the periods he chose NOT to collect. Wink

A few if I may ... Raphael, Durer, Gainsborough, Cezanne, Homer, Modigliani ( so few in private collections) Picasso, Klee, Villon, Schiele, Feininger, Richter, Stella, Ruscha, Hopper, Johns, Pollack, Warhol, de Kooning and a few Rothko's to boot.

It appears the two day sale will break the all time auction record well north of $500M. I'm curious what the family has elected to keep!
The Old ManThe Old ManMember
Preview of the Broad's first show

I've seen a lot of the Broad collection over the years and this part of the review sums up some of my feelings about his opening of this monument to himself (remembering that originally he had promised his collection to LACMA:

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Dead ahead off the escalator, Koons' big, multicolored flower sculpture is laid out at the public's feet — a fond welcome offering. Machined in stainless steel, these giant tulips, pristine and perfected, will never wilt, unlike nature's fragile kind.

They're beyond death. Koons flips the traditional role still-life flowers play, symbolizing mortality.

He further invokes the legendary tulip mania of 17th century Holland. The era also marks the art market's modern emergence. Paintings and tulip bulbs became mediums of fevered commercial exchange.

"Tulips" tells us something we don't always want to hear. The prospect of immortality, however vain, can be vested in precincts of incalculable wealth and extraordinary power. Like pyramids, say. Or the Broad.

The sculpture's witty placement underscores the narrowness of the collection. It's mainly rich in blue-chip art, defined by market value decided through consistent years of sales and confirmed at auction.

The market, subject to commercial limitations, is hardly infallible. It leaves a lot out. That's why the show's "sweep" feels choppy, and why about 80% of the 92 artists featured in the collection's new catalog are male, which the art market favors.

It's also why the show stresses art from New York and Europe, where art's primary trading floors are located, but not Los Angeles, where the collection was assembled. Ironically, in "Tips for Artists Who Want to Sell," his cheeky 1966-68 sign painting, L.A.'s John Baldessari gives the sardonic lowdown. "Paintings with cows and hens collect dust," it declares, "while bulls and roosters sell."

Markets always distinguish between what's salable and what's not, but they can't calculate quality.
W wine+artMember
Thanks for the post, Old Man.

My wife and I attended the last show ever at the old Whitney Museum in NYC last year, and it was a major Koons exhibit.

I have often struggled with Koons, and often think of his work as kitsch.

I did gain some appreciation of his work as I do most of the time when viewing a major exhibition, but still not too sold overall. I did find his pornographic series more interesting than I expected and listening to the comments in the Adult Only room very funny.

Speaking of pornographic, I read today that feminist filmmaker Candida Royalle died this weekend.
The Old ManThe Old ManMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Thanks for the post, Old Man.

My wife and I attended the last show ever at the old Whitney Museum in NYC last year, and it was a major Koons exhibit.

I have often struggled with Koons, and often think of his work as kitsch.

I have the same feeling for Koons, but my daughter of course likes him. I did, however, like this unrealized piece that I thought was just for LACMA. Steam Locomotive

Better use of the money than Levitated Mass.
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K ksc02Member
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
I have often struggled with Koons, and often think of his work as kitsch.

While I am not a fan of kitsch I do appreciate many of Koons' works.


Do you prefer Koons or Hirst, in general?

I, personally, appreciate more of Koons' works.
I cannot get my head around Hirst at all. His pieces do not inspire any real emotion in me which is critical. No emotion = not true art (for me)
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