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robsutherlandrobsutherlandMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
Each to their own and all...but I have to admit that Bacon triptych of Freud does less than nothing for me.

Oh the things I could do with $142.4mln.


Ha. The things you could do with the $15.4m buyers premium. Wink

I thought $100m, but this caught a number of people by surprise.


I read Gagosian went to $101mln and Hong Gyu Shin went to $87mln.

Also of interest Koon's Orange Balloon Dog went for $58.4mln (high estimate was $55mln) to a telephone bidder. That's the highest price for a living artist now I believe.

Oh and going through $15.4mln would be fairly easy. Smile Pay off the mortgage in Chicago and Toronto, nice little reno/extension at the cottage, find a good building lot within 5 miles of where we are now and build a house (quite frankly if I’m blowing the money I’ve always wanted a Shope Reno Wharton house. They could redo the cottage as well), new 911 Turbo S and an Evanta Aston Martin DB4 Zegato recreation, replace our MB wagon with a new E63S wagon, 100 cases of wine or so, an FP Journe Octa in Platnium and a Patek 3738 & 5164, a couple of Hermes bags for my wife along a new pair of diamond studs, go to Poole for a few suits, G&G for some shoes and furnish the new house, and well by then all of that money is probably gone…

Now $140+ million,that would take a serious undertaking to blow! Devilish I'm sure I would be up for the task.
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J jorgerunfastMember
I feel a tinge of pride around the Koon's sculpture.

Two years ago I came across small reproductions of the "Balloon Dog" at a local home furnishings shop. They had a light purple one, and an orange one. I thought they were great, and purchased the pair for my wife.

They were produced in limited numbers, but as I understand it, it was an open edition in the sense that they weren't "numbered".

Fast-forward almost 2 years, and I see the original "Balloon Dog" in a WSJ article with an auction estimate of $45M. Mind you, the original is 10-feet tall, and mine are 10 inches tall, but I can't help but feel a little pride knowing a chose a sculpture simply because I enjoyed it - having no idea who the artist was, and what the original would soon sell for.
The Old ManThe Old ManMember
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Originally posted by Jorgerunfast:
I feel a tinge of pride around the Koon's sculpture.

Two years ago I came across small reproductions of the "Balloon Dog" at a local home furnishings shop. They had a light purple one, and an orange one. I thought they were great, and purchased the pair for my wife.

They were produced in limited numbers, but as I understand it, it was an open edition in the sense that they weren't "numbered".

Fast-forward almost 2 years, and I see the original "Balloon Dog" in a WSJ article with an auction estimate of $45M. Mind you, the original is 10-feet tall, and mine are 10 inches tall, but I can't help but feel a little pride knowing a chose a sculpture simply because I enjoyed it - having no idea who the artist was, and what the original would soon sell for.

My old snotty persona would have had something negative to say here.
The Old ManThe Old ManMember
Elements of my life converged. I am an unabashed fan of pre-1980 Playboy magazine. I am particularly fond of the early 60s to early 70s--yes my formative years. I used to buy them in the mid-60s in a downtown Chicago subway station when I was 13 and started subscribing when I was 14. Somewhere else I will give the details of why I think this magazine was so important--yes I used to read it cover to cover.

Anyway as a fan I picked up the now out of print digital version of the 1950s and 1960s. In the January 1962 issue there was an article entitled, The Fine Art of Acquiring Fine Art. I can email anyone a pdf copy if you'd like.

Earlier this week I was mailed a copy of the best free magazine around--Taschen's magazine and catalog. It comes out quarterly and is a must get. And low and behold (whatever that means) there was this article to promote a new book on Playboy: What if...you had followed Playboy's art buying advice from 1962?.

A fun article.
The Old ManThe Old ManMember
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Originally posted by Jorgerunfast:
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Originally posted by The Old Man:

My old snotty persona would have had something negative to say here.


Criticism is always welcome. I've just recently become interested in the "art world".

Now, negative comments for the sake of being negative... well, I don't need to tell you where you can shove that Wink

Indeed.
J jorgerunfastMember
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Originally posted by The Old Man:
Elements of my life converged. I am an unabashed fan of pre-1980 Playboy magazine. I am particularly fond of the early 60s to early 70s--yes my formative years. I used to buy them in the mid-60s in a downtown Chicago subway station when I was 13 and started subscribing when I was 14. Somewhere else I will give the details of why I think this magazine was so important--yes I used to read it cover to cover.

Anyway as a fan I picked up the now out of print digital version of the 1950s and 1960s. In the January 1962 issue there was an article entitled, The Fine Art of Acquiring Fine Art. I can email anyone a pdf copy if you'd like.

Earlier this week I was mailed a copy of the best free magazine around--Taschen's magazine and catalog. It comes out quarterly and is a must get. And low and behold (whatever that means) there was this article to promote a new book on Playboy: What if...you had followed Playboy's art buying advice from 1962?.

A fun article.


Wow!! That was a blast!

Thanks for sharing.
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by Jorgerunfast:
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Originally posted by The Old Man:
Elements of my life converged. I am an unabashed fan of pre-1980 Playboy magazine. I am particularly fond of the early 60s to early 70s--yes my formative years. I used to buy them in the mid-60s in a downtown Chicago subway station when I was 13 and started subscribing when I was 14. Somewhere else I will give the details of why I think this magazine was so important--yes I used to read it cover to cover.

Anyway as a fan I picked up the now out of print digital version of the 1950s and 1960s. In the January 1962 issue there was an article entitled, The Fine Art of Acquiring Fine Art. I can email anyone a pdf copy if you'd like.

Earlier this week I was mailed a copy of the best free magazine around--Taschen's magazine and catalog. It comes out quarterly and is a must get. And low and behold (whatever that means) there was this article to promote a new book on Playboy: What if...you had followed Playboy's art buying advice from 1962?.

A fun article.


Wow!! That was a blast!

Thanks for sharing.


Very very cool, Old Man.

America was just discovering art in many ways still in the 50's - 60's, and it was not until after WWII that America became the center of the art world. Up until the 20th century fine art owned by Americans was mostly European, and only owned by the very well - heeled.

If one looks at the three big auctions last week alone, it is amazing how much influence Peggy Guggenheim and Clement Greenberg had and even have to this day.
The Old ManThe Old ManMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:Very very cool, Old Man.

America was just discovering art in many ways still in the 50's - 60's, and it was not until after WWII that America became the center of the art world. Up until the 20th century fine art owned by Americans was mostly European, and only owned by the very well - heeled.

If one looks at the three big auctions last week alone, it is amazing how much influence Peggy Guggenheim and Clement Greenberg had and even have to this day.

I also love this 17 minute film used to train Sear's employees in the art of selling art:

The Vincent Price Collection of Fine Art

You'd be surprise at some of the original art Sears was selling.
T thistlintomMember
I went to the Menil Collection in Houston yesterday for the first time and really enjoyed it. They had a very interesting selection of modern art along with some ancient art. In addition they had a quite large retrospective of Wols and a showing of Luc Tuymans art. I was quite taken by Tuymans work, very interesting and different. He used oils, but the appearance had almost a chalky look to it.

I also visited the Rothko chapel, and maybe it was because of the overcast weather, but it really didn't do a lot for me.
robsutherlandrobsutherlandMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
I had a chance for a pre-screening of the Hopper exhibit at the DMA that just opened.

Hopper was an excellent painter, printmaker and etcher. His works always make me think of words that would describe him as a person, sophisticated, smart, frank, lonely, detached, demure, isolated, withdrawn and serious.


I know he's best known for his works like "Nighthawks", "Chop Suey" and "Office in a Small City", and they are all wonderful works but its his landscapes which have always tugged at my heart.

If you could give me ANY painting in the world, "Corn Hill" and ESPECIALLY "The Lee Shore" would be in the top 4-6.
T thereweresevenineightMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
it is amazing how much influence Peggy Guggenheim and Clement Greenberg had and even have to this day.
I know very little to comment here, but I feel compelled to show some love to these two. I would also show some love to Harold Rosenberg. Wow! Influence is probably an understatement. On a personal level, my heart lies in almost a 50 year period from 1900-1950. It's certainly not to show an absence of appreciation outside this timeframe. This was just such a special time in my opinion for ART! And with all due respect, when it comes to casting a shadow of influence, or in this case a total eclipse on the artworld and how artists themselves would evolve and "express", the work of Picasso is nothing less than paramount.
robsutherlandrobsutherlandMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:


If you could give me ANY painting in the world, "Corn Hill" and ESPECIALLY "The Lee Shore" would be in the top 4-6.


Ah, what a great potential question. Wink


Off the top of my head and in order:

1)Turner – The Fighting Temeraire
2)Pissarro – Montmatre - Morning, Grey Weather (Though I would take ANY of them)
3)Homer – Sponge Fishermen
4)Hopper – The Lee Shore
5)Pissarro – Avenue l’Opera - Morning Sunshine (Though I would take ANY of them)
6)Manet – Serving Girl
7)Hopper – Corn Hill
8)Sargent - Gassed
9)Homer – Banana Tree (Nassau)
10)Bingham – Fur Traders Descending the Missouri

Though you could of course add dozens. It's hard not to add Rousseau's Surprised!, something by Botero, a Heade Thunderstorm, Klee Vast or Highways & Byways, Rivera's The Flower Vendor, a Monet parliament etc.....
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:


If you could give me ANY painting in the world, "Corn Hill" and ESPECIALLY "The Lee Shore" would be in the top 4-6.


Ah, what a great potential question. Wink


Off the top of my head and in order:

1)Turner – The Fighting Temeraire
2)Pissarro – Montmatre - Morning, Grey Weather (Though I would take ANY of them)
3)Homer – Sponge Fishermen
4)Hopper – The Lee Shore
5)Pissarro – Avenue l’Opera - Morning Sunshine (Though I would take ANY of them)
6)Manet – Serving Girl
7)Hopper – Corn Hill
8)Sargent - Gassed
9)Homer – Banana Tree (Nassau)
10)Bingham – Fur Traders Descending the Missouri

Though you could of course add dozens. It's hard not to add Rousseau's Surprised!, something by Botero, a Heade Thunderstorm, Klee Vast or Highways & Byways, Rivera's The Flower Vendor, a Monet parliament etc.....


Well played, Rob.
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