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The Old ManThe Old ManMember
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Originally posted by wine+artBig GrinD, if you enjoy Magritte, check out Giorgio de Chirico.


Grew up with this:

The Philosopher's Conquest


You never shared with me that your parents owned this.

Oh, no...going to the Art Institute. For some reason we did have a copy of this codpiece masterpiece... Wedding Dance

Interesting enough we had an expurgated version.
doubleddoubledMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
To my good wine friend, DD and his continuing education about art.

Jim Dine ( great Neo - Dada artist) is gifting several hundred prints to some lowbrow museum this month... the London's British Museum. Cool

Ha! It's not the Louvre. Wink j/k - haven't been there or in Paris or London, for that matter.
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by Jabe11:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
London's British Museum. Cool


Is there another British Museum somewhere? Big Grin

Going to town on Saturday, and hope to talk the girls into seeing a Daumier exhibit at the Royal Academy...I think he is under appreciated and prescient, esp. his Don Quixote studies.


Well, the museum does not have to be in London... the U.K. is pretty large. Wink

Jabe,

Have you been to the Serpentine Sackler this year to see Zaha Hadid's architectural work?
jabe11jabe11Member
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Originally posted by wine+art:


Have you been to the Serpentine Sackler this year to see Zaha Hadid's architectural work?


I have not, but thanks for the tip. I wanted to see a passed Bauhaus exhibit at the Barbican, but we just never made it...

London is out tomorrow, as the week has just been too tough...a few 11-hour days, a kid on amoxicillin, Halloween party...going to put the new au paire on a bus to Cambridge tomorrow and kick it on the home front....but I WILL see the Daumier!
K ksc02Member
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Originally posted by Jabe11:
I'm not sure if this is breaking news here...huge haul of works in Munich...German police recover 1,500 modernist masterpieces 'looted by Nazis'

I wonder what will emerge. German police apparently kept the find secret for two years, over concerns of restitution, claims and diplomatic issues.

I sincerely wish the best to the ancestors of the true owners of these works and that they are able to successfully reclaim what is theirs. Be damned those that supported this blatant thievry.
T thistlintomMember
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Originally posted by Jabe11:
I'm not sure if this is breaking news here...huge haul of works in Munich...German police recover 1,500 modernist masterpieces 'looted by Nazis'

I wonder what will emerge. German police apparently kept the find secret for two years, over concerns of restitution claims and diplomatic issues.


Wow!

This is going to be messy.

It boggles my mind how Nazism was able to rise even after reading books on the subject.

What an amazing find of art though.
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by Jabe11:
I'm not sure if this is breaking news here...huge haul of works in Munich...German police recover 1,500 modernist masterpieces 'looted by Nazis'

I wonder what will emerge. German police apparently kept the find secret for two years, over concerns of restitution, claims and diplomatic issues.

I sincerely wish the best to the ancestors of the true owners of these works and that they are able to successfully reclaim what is theirs. Be damned those that supported this blatant thievry.


+1.

Not only what was stolen by these thugs, but so many pieces were burned being tagged as degenerate art that can never be returned to their owner or their family.

The Swiss are dirty in all this cover-up as well.
irwinirwinMember
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by Jabe11:
I'm not sure if this is breaking news here...huge haul of works in Munich...German police recover 1,500 modernist masterpieces 'looted by Nazis'

I wonder what will emerge. German police apparently kept the find secret for two years, over concerns of restitution, claims and diplomatic issues.

I sincerely wish the best to the ancestors of the true owners of these works and that they are able to successfully reclaim what is theirs. Be damned those that supported this blatant thievery.


First, I think you mean the descendants of the art owners, not the ancestors. But, in any event, the thievery of art and other belongings was so rampant, together with physical and other horrors.

It is incredibly difficult for the descendants to document the ownership of this art. We're talking alot of years ago. My grandparents were pretty well off in Vienna, but I have no idea if they had any significant art. When they came to the US, all my grandfather was able to escape with was his violin, his viola, and sheet music. And, his pride. My grandmother had baked a cake into which she put her wedding ring, so that survived, along with 6 spoons. That was it.

Just don't let anyone tell you that the average German person had no idea what was happening.
They knew. For sure.
T thistlintomMember
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Would this present an ethical dilemma for private collectors and museums if all of the sudden there are works of art that are appearing in the market? Is provenance something that buyers are always concerned about?


I would imagine it is going to be very difficult to determine who is rightful owner of many of these artworks. I hope there are ways for the public to see the art while they find the rightful owners.
W wine+artMember
Are we seeing an appetite change in the art world? Far too soon to know, and tomorrow night followed by an auction next week may just shed some light on a potential trend change.

While Giacometti did cover the reserve (barely) many others did not, including a Picasso and shockingly even a Modigliani. Both received $20M bids, but both failed to meet the set reserves. This coupled with a Kandinsky blowing the reserve out of the water by $7M+ is worthy of watching in my opinion.

Aberration or tipping point? We will have much more data by the end of next week.
doubleddoubledMember
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Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
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Originally posted by DoubleD:
Would this present an ethical dilemma for private collectors and museums if all of the sudden there are works of art that are appearing in the market? Is provenance something that buyers are always concerned about?


I would imagine it is going to be very difficult to determine who is rightful owner of many of these artworks. I hope there are ways for the public to see the art while they find the rightful owners.

Although I'm not sure the best way to handle the distribution of the art works, a good place for it to be placed in the interim would be something like the Holocaust Museums in DC, LA, etc.
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