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Originally posted by Jabe11:
Munch's third Scream going to auction on 02 May, Sotheby's. I'm in for a hundred bucks...who's with me!?!?


Many people do not even know there is more than one. Wink

There are 17,000 registered members to this site. If everyone would pledge $4750, we could perhaps buy it collectively. Cool


Alright! Now we're getting somewhere! It may be slightly more complex than organizing an offline.....I'm in!
Seriously, I'm curious to see what the final gavel will bring.
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VinT, the piece has been installed, and a photo ( poor iPhone) has been emailed.


Could you forward said iPhone photo, w+a.
I'd love to see the piece.... will do.

How is it 'fitting in'? A keeper?... D was out of town until Monday, and I left Monday, so tonight will be the first time we are both home to talk about it.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Could you forward said iPhone photo, w+a.
I'd love to see the piece.... will do.

Got it, thank you.
Very special piece, this one. However I understood your comments. This one needs to be seen in person fully appreciate. A lot going on that one clearly misses two-dimensionally.


+1. Sorry for the delayed response - I've also been on the road.

Agree with KSC - this piece seems to be straining against two dimensions and looking to break into a third. What a treat, though to get the best of two artists in one piece!
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Please do. I was puzzled and interested by your comment about some part of the piece that moves? Trying to imagine how that might work and would love to see photos of the work "two ways".


The piece is hinged, so the right side can be moved. This work should NEVER be static, and we are encouraged also to add layers over time ourselves.

I will send a photo of the hinged portion.
I'm taking a PTO tomorrow, and D and I are going to view the Glenn Ligon exhibit at the Ft. Worth Modern. We both have heard rave reviews from peers we respect, and are so excited.

We then have a lunch planned with excellent ( very) wine to celebrate D's birthday, and then a special Champagne tasting that should prove to be very, very special.

On a side note, I'm far beyond ecstatic. There will be a Lucian Freud Portraits exhibit coming to DFW in July. This is the only U.S.A. exhibit, and the previews from noted scholars ( Richardson) has given me goosebumps. Cool
Happy Birthday to D!

I didn't see the most recent posts here until now, and I have to say I am both intrigued and confused by the comments regarding your latest acquisition, w+a. When you get a chance, please send me a couple of photos if you don't mind. Right now, I'm envisioning a flat, adjustable and movable sculpture covered with post-it notes that you keep removing or rearranging, but perhaps there's more to it than that. Smile
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Happy Birthday to D!

I didn't see the most recent posts here until now, and I have to say I am both intrigued and confused by the comments regarding your latest acquisition, w+a. When you get a chance, please send me a couple of photos if you don't mind. Right now, ...I'm envisioning a flat, adjustable and movable sculpture covered with post-it notes that you keep removing or rearranging, but perhaps there's more to it than that. Smile

Oh, Seaquam. Open your mind for once, would you please Razz
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I have to say I am both intrigued and confused by the comments regarding your latest acquisition, w+a. When you get a chance, please send me a couple of photos if you don't mind. Right now, I'm envisioning a flat, adjustable and movable sculpture covered with post-it notes that you keep removing or rearranging, but perhaps there's more to it than that. Smile


Will do, but you have a mental picture already. Razz Wink
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I wonder where next? I think India would be a great choice.

Interesting. Curious what compels you to suggest India.


Because if I were King, that is where I would build it, and Brazil would be my second choice. Big Grin

I think both countries have a very strong outlook over the next century, and both the Far East and South America are devoid of the positive Guggenheim world of art.

I think Ed is correct putting China in the mix without a doubt, but my experience is this could be very very difficult. The Chinese would perhaps want more control and influence than the Guggenheim would be comfortable with, in my opinion. I also would put my money on India over China over the next 100+ years.
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I'm now only weeks away from a visit to the Guggenheim ( Venice) again. Cool

Highly recommended when in Venezia, even if you are not into religious art, tinoretto'a masterpiece at the scuola grande di san rocco, the first floor is simply incredible.
We are off to london tomorrow. I hope to be able to stop in either of the Tate's, but our agenda is already crowded.
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The Gallerie dell'Accademia is also worth a visit.

Indeed!


I would not miss it, nor will I miss the Firenze site either on this trip.

Now counting the days...

If the guggenheim was on your agenda, I woudn't have recommended the academia, but if you are going, don't miss giorgione's tempest, Fetti's david, tiepolo's rape of europa, or my museum favorite, The fortune teller. If this sort of art interests you, see titians assumption in the frari basilica. Still, the scuola at san rocco tops them all in my book, but judge for yourself. Oh, as a side note, I loved the Victoria and Albert...we will be back.
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Not sure if this belongs here or in a separate architecture thread, but thoughts on the new tower in London?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/...press-155146608.html


WTF!? Eek
Yeah, that ugly thing is by Anish Kapoor. He had an exhibit at the Guggenheim in Bilbao when I was there. A few pieces were really cool, but most were not to my taste.
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I've had my picasso fill for a while fix until late June.


I never knew that was possible.

Hopefuly you find that less incredulous, M. de Art. To be so close and not see giotto's capella di scorvigni in padova would be a shame, but perhaps you've seen this monumental work. Comtemplating his ushering in of perspective made think about what child's play non-representational abstract art is. Check out the byzantine mosaics of Ravenna/classe', or Massacio's Holy Trinity at santa maria novello. I hope you enjoy your trip.
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Originally posted by Jabe11:

I've had my picasso fill for a while fix until late June.


I never knew that was possible.


Hopefuly you find that less incredulous,


Indeed, much better. Big Grin

Speaking of the greatest, I'm trying to work in a quick trip to NYC to view the Picasso & Gilot exhibit at the Gagosian that the great Sir John Richardson facilitated.
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the Picasso & Gilot exhibit at the Gagosian that the great Sir John Richardson facilitated.


I was curious about this since (fingers crossed) we hope to be in NYC in late June. I found this interesting article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10....html?pagewanted=all


Jabe11, of all the women in Picasso's life, there was never anyone like Francoise, never.

Go to Charlie Rose . com and watch her recent interview. ( including Sir John) I think you will enjoy it as an art enthusiast.
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
Forget Kahlo, I can't wait to see Diego when they come to the AGO later this summer.

Being my wife is first generation american of mexican decent, i'll let that comment slide. Wink (We have a future trip in the books to La Ciudad to see more Kahlo) On another note, I have been disheartened to see kids are not welcomed in a couple of NYC galleries I had my eye on...the Frick (Antico) and the Neue (Klimt). I have found my #1 has been markedly impressed by priceless works of art...regardless, there'll be planty, brah, in the MoMA to keep us all occupied.
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Forget Kahlo, I can't wait to see Diego when they come to the AGO later this summer.

Being my wife is first generation american of mexican decent, i'll let that comment slide. Wink (We have a future trip in the books to La Ciudad to see more Kahlo) On another note, I have been disheartened to see kids are not welcomed in a couple of NYC galleries I had my eye on...the Frick (Antico) and the Neue (Klimt). I have found my #1 has been markedly impressed by priceless works of art...regardless, there'll be planty, brah, in the MoMA to keep us all occupied.


Diego María de la Concepción Juan Nepomuceno Estanislao de la Rivera y Barrientos Acosta y Rodríguez is just as Mexican as his wife Frida!

Sorry (and surprised) to hear that some galleries don't allow children. Then again when I was a little kid I touched the Sunflowers at the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam and was thrown out so I guess I can understand...
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Yes, Diego is mexican....I meant to quote on the 'Forget Frida' part. Frida does seem self centered with all the autoretratos she does....but she does have some intriguing ones..Two fridas, wounded deer, borderline, et al. I hope either of the two they have at the MoMA are not on loan.


I've always liked her "What The Water Gave Me" and "Diego On my Mind"
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Originally posted by Jabe11:
Yes, Diego is mexican....I meant to quote on the 'Forget Frida' part. Frida does seem self centered with all the autoretratos she does....but she does have some intriguing ones..Two fridas, wounded deer, borderline, et al. I hope either of the two they have at the MoMA are not on loan.


I've always liked her "What The Water Gave Me" and "Diego On my Mind"


Both excellent, indeed.
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Yes, Diego is mexican....I meant to quote on the 'Forget Frida' part. Frida does seem self centered with all the autoretratos she does....but she does have some intriguing ones..Two fridas, wounded deer, borderline, et al. I hope either of the two they have at the MoMA are not on loan.


I've always liked her "What The Water Gave Me" and "Diego On my Mind"


Both excellent, indeed.


But not as excellent as "The Flower Carrier" "Alameda Park", "The Flower Vendor" or "House over the Bridge"
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VinT & Jabe11, where did you boys go?

DO NOT tell me you stopped buying art! Mad Wink

Stayed at my cousins house in Queens, but made it in to downtown a couple of times. We saw the MoMA, Nat'l history (the 3 year old is big time into dinos) and Guggenheim. Didn't make the gagosian, unfortunately.
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Klimt exhibit at the Museo Correr


I attended this as well.

What did you think?

Enjoy Venice.

Its Klimt; I love the guy. But it was a festa day and extremely crowded. I believe a big museum in Vienna has loaned out a lot of his work for a major remodel. I am hoping to get another trip to Vienna before we leave europe to see the kiss.
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VinT & Jabe11, where did you boys go?

DO NOT tell me you stopped buying art! Mad Wink


Au contraire, mon ami...we picked up another original from Toronto artist Kate Domina last week. My better half absolutely loves that whimsical-yet-slightly-creepy vibe.

And we are patiently awaiting our next (and much larger) Hoffman commission. Cool

Lastly, we are much looking forward to our visit with Picassso at the AGO sometime in the next few weeks.
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Jabe11,

Have you attended the International Contemporary Art Exhibition in Assisi?

We haven't yet made it to Assisi, but if we do, the Giotto fresco's will be first on the list. Close second is the one famous chocolate factory in Perugia.
I have to say contemporary art frustrates me at times. The recent rothko i saw is a case in point...without identifiable objects and no descriptive title, anyone who views it is only guessing at a meaning, if any exists. Painting by feeling is commendable i suppose, but its meaning and/or purpose is exclusive to the artist.
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The recent rothko i saw is a case in point...without identifiable objects and no descriptive title, anyone who views it is only guessing at a meaning, if any exists. Painting by feeling is commendable i suppose, but its meaning and/or purpose is exclusive to the artist.


Oh my, we need to have a little wine talk over a bottle or two of wine. Big Grin
I just received an email that Ivan Karp died Thursday in NY. (86)

Ivan was a giant, GIANT in art world for over 50 years. He made a name for himself working at the Leo Castelli gallery before opening his SoHo gallery which is still going strong after 40+ years.

Karp often contributed for Newsweek, The New Yorker, Village Voice and many others including being a guest often with Johnny Carson offering his keen insight and passion for art.

I met him years ago, and was a client of his. I will look at the piece we have from his gallery today and think fondly of him.

Godspeed to the mayor of SoHo.
I have always said, leave your contact information with the gallery even if you did not come to terms on a piece of art you were interested in. Things often change. Smile

I was interested in a piece on our trip to Italy in June. The owner of the gallery was not flexible on the price, shipping cost and insurance. I received an email yesterday wanting to open up the conversation again.

Timing is so important when buying art, and I'm not sure everyone truly understands this.

We shall see...
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Aphilla, are you a fan of Baroque work in general.


I'm not attracted to periods in art as far as i know. The works of individuals catch my attention, but not necessarily any of their contemporaries.

Caravaggio's paintings grab me. I'd like to have a massive print of the calling of Levi.


Michelangelo's sculptures grab me.


I'm pretty impressed by Rubens.


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Who would you suggest to play his part in said movie?


I like Johnny Depp for his ability to disappear into a role and someone like C. might intrigue Depp. But now I guess that would make it a big time movie, but maybe not.

The guy that plays Dr Watson in the new Sherlock Masterpiece series might be interesting. We'll see how he does as Bilbo Baggins....


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I will try to find an article I read recently about all of the art hitting the market from this time period. Many families have had a lot of art within their family for centuries that has never been seen publicly.
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I have always said, leave your contact information with the gallery even if you did not come to terms on a piece of art you were interested in. Things often change. Smile

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Timing is so important when buying art, and I'm not sure everyone truly understands this.

We shall see...


This is so true, and such great advice. I've had calls offering to let a piece 'live with me' for a time after not coming to a price for instance.

In my price range, and shopping strategy (suffering through loads of kitty and puppy art to find something good), jumping in fast can also be key. I have many pieces in our home that are way out of my price range now, but I bought them when the artist was just starting out.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
I have always said, leave your contact information with the gallery even if you did not come to terms on a piece of art you were interested in. Things often change. Smile

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Timing is so important when buying art, and I'm not sure everyone truly understands this.

We shall see...


This is so true, and such great advice. I've had calls offering to let a piece 'live with me' for a time after not coming to a price for instance.... Ah yes, I know this trick as well. ( it also works with my wife & cars.) Wink

I have many pieces in our home that are way out of my price range now, but I bought them when the artist was just starting out. that is always nice indeed, assuming you still love the work.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Aphilla, are you a fan of Baroque work in general.


I'm not attracted to periods in art as far as i know. The works of individuals catch my attention, but not necessarily any of their contemporaries.

Caravaggio's paintings grab me. I'd like to have a massive print of the calling of Levi.


Michelangelo's sculptures grab me.


I'm pretty impressed by Rubens.


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Who would you suggest to play his part in said movie?


I like Johnny Depp for his ability to disappear into a role and someone like C. might intrigue Depp. But now I guess that would make it a big time movie, but maybe not.

The guy that plays Dr Watson in the new Sherlock Masterpiece series might be interesting. We'll see how he does as Bilbo Baggins....


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I will try to find an article I read recently about all of the art hitting the market from this time period. Many families have had a lot of art within their family for centuries that has never been seen publicly.


I like the unknown actor in the role as well. If a well known actor was to play the role, my vote would be for Javier Bardem.

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