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W wine+artMember
If you are an art enthusiast, you may wish to check out a show on Bravo called, Work of Art.

I'm not much of a TV person in general, but the first season of this show was excellent, and both my wife and I were hooked.

While I clearly have no clue if this season will be as good as last year, I'm excited nevertheless.

The second season starts on October 12th.
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T tpewinedrinkerMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
If you are an art enthusiast, you may wish to check out a show on Bravo called, Work of Art.

I'm not much of a TV person in general, but the first season of this show was excellent, and both my wife and I were hooked.

While I clearly have no clue if this season will be as good as last year, I'm excited nevertheless.

The second season starts on October 12th.

Thanks for the tip... We watch Project Runway on Bravo, so this will be a nice replacement once the season ends!
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by TPEwinedrinker:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
If you are an art enthusiast, you may wish to check out a show on Bravo called, Work of Art.

I'm not much of a TV person in general, but the first season of this show was excellent, and both my wife and I were hooked.

While I clearly have no clue if this season will be as good as last year, I'm excited nevertheless.

The second season starts on October 12th.

Thanks for the tip... We watch Project Runway on Bravo, so this will be a nice replacement once the season ends!


If as good as last season, excellent art show.

Also, a big Thank You to Sarah Jessica Parker for putting her money behind the show last season to get it rolling.

Speaking of fashion TPE, ( Big Grin) China Chow's fashion was stunning last season as the host of this show.
T tpewinedrinkerMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by TPEwinedrinker:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
If you are an art enthusiast, you may wish to check out a show on Bravo called, Work of Art.

I'm not much of a TV person in general, but the first season of this show was excellent, and both my wife and I were hooked.

While I clearly have no clue if this season will be as good as last year, I'm excited nevertheless.

The second season starts on October 12th.

Thanks for the tip... We watch Project Runway on Bravo, so this will be a nice replacement once the season ends!


If as good as last season, excellent art show.

Also, a big Thank You to Sarah Jessica Parker for putting her money behind the show last season to get it rolling.

Speaking of fashion TPE, ( Big Grin) China Chow's fashion was stunning last season as the host of this show.

Good stuff! Love John Woo movies, and thought she was hilarious in The Big Hit. A fan of her family's restaurant too! Used to eat there regularly when we were living in LA. Will definitely have this one programmed on the DVR.
T thereweresevenineightMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
MJ, I just watched this weeks episode.

I thought there were two excellent works of art this week.

Have you caught up?
Yes! I was very drawn to Dusty's piece; very emotional. Young's art was intellectual, but didn't do it for me. Lola's piece was well thought out. And lastly, the Sucklord is lucky to have not been booted off- simple piece-predictable!
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by MJAlbers:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
MJ, I just watched this weeks episode.

I thought there were two excellent works of art this week.

Have you caught up?
Yes! I was very drawn to Dusty's piece; very emotional. Young's art was intellectual, but didn't do it for me. Lola's piece was well thought out. And lastly, the Sucklord is lucky to have not been booted off- simple piece-predictable!


I would have paid serious money for Dusty's piece, but clearly Young's piece is what I/anyone could easily sell in a NYC gallery.

Sucklord over thinks everything, and is very lucky to still be on the show.

You have a keen eye, MJ.
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by MJAlbers:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Just watched this weeks episode.

I will wait a couple of days before commenting, just in case you boys are behind as well. Wink
"Uprooted" was interesting, but I thought this episode was very underwhelming; I was hoping for more.


M, I think last season had much more talent. I was glad to see Dusty win 15K, he was my choice last week.

The only two weeks I have been impressed were the Pop Art show and the New York Times show.

GOOD BYE Sucklord! LOL
M mrcabernetMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
I did see a piece that Sucklord did that reminded me of Lari Pittman, ( excellent works) so perhaps he just does not work well under the shows concept.

Naturally I'm a big Pittman fan. Discovered him in 1992 at the MOCA Helter Skelter show. You know W+A and I would be good friends (we share the same tastes in film and art) if we didn't hate each other so much (and that he's a pompous ass.)
M mrcabernetMember
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Roll Eyes



Kidding aside..how does one "ignore" someone on these boards..Ive wasting enough of my time...you guys have my email.


Ah, Mr. Hate does it again. Big Grin

Just click on his name after you sign in, and hit the ignore button.

I will email you as well.

You used the word "hate" shortly after I used it in my post. Are you only pretending to Ignore me? Where are your principles?
T thereweresevenineightMember
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MJ, I watched show #7 this morning.

I liked the winning piece, and agree with the judges.

Overall, I think this year has had much less to offer than last years talent.

What are your thoughts to date?

I enjoy the show for what it is. It is structured and timed which can be very disruptive to the creative process. I find some of the whining and crying annoying. Overall, no "wow", but entertaining.
jabe11jabe11Member
A quality exhibit, I'm sure...he is a true master. Contemplating Velazquez' Los Borrachos, I couldn't help but think the spanish master must have already been exposed to Caravaggio's influence by the time it was painted. Either that, or he used the same model for Bbacchus that Caravaggio used so frequently. I've been fortunate enough to see a good many of Caravaggio's works.
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by Jabe11:
What can you say about Velasquez? He is one of my favorites and the Prado my favorite museum. Seeing Las Meninas again..it is one of the greatest of all time; it seemed to take on a new significance for me...and so many others. It'll be too long before we're in Madrid again.


A true masterpiece, and every accolade well deserved.
K ksc02Member
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Anyone familiar with the work of painter Uno Hoffman?


I am. Are you a fan?


We're going to his studio this weekend to pick up our first original.

He's quite a character - a true Renaissance Man. Do you like his work?

Cool BRAVO! Well done, Vin Toronto!
W wine+artMember
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Do you like his work?


I saw a number of pieces in Paris in 2004 (?) that were clearly influenced by Motherwell and Kline that I liked. I saw a couple of pieces that made me think of the works of Tapies that I loved in an art journal recently.

I would enjoy seeing the piece you are buying.


Vin, did you buy?
vintvintMember
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Originally posted by VinToronto:


Do you like his work?


I saw a number of pieces in Paris in 2004 (?) that were clearly influenced by Motherwell and Kline that I liked. I saw a couple of pieces that made me think of the works of Tapies that I loved in an art journal recently.

I would enjoy seeing the piece you are buying.


Vin, did you buy?


Yes. We were to pick it up this weekend, but Mr. Hoffman graciously offered to have it framed for us at the same pricing he would receive. We will take possession sometime next week when it is complete. Smile

Drop me a note at <edited> and I would be happy to forward a pic of the finished product, and the story of how the piece was inspired by a line of my partner's poetry.
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W wine+artMember
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Do you like his work?


I saw a number of pieces in Paris in 2004 (?) that were clearly influenced by Motherwell and Kline that I liked. I saw a couple of pieces that made me think of the works of Tapies that I loved in an art journal recently.

I would enjoy seeing the piece you are buying.


Vin, did you buy?


Yes. We were to pick it up this weekend, but Mr. Hoffman graciously offered to have it framed for us at the same pricing he would receive. We will take possession sometime next week when it is complete. Smile

Drop me a note at and I would be happy to forward a pic of the finished product, and the story of how the piece was inspired by a line of my partner's poetry.


Vin, I just emailed you.

Please confirm you received my email, and I look forward to seeing the piece.

You may want to edit out your email address.
W wine+artMember
An announcement was made last week that a new $225 million project will be built in the Uptown section of Dallas, and Cesar Pelli will be the designer. Cool

With nearby buildings in the Arts District designed by I.M. Pei, Philip Johnson, SOM, George Dahl, Sir Alfred Bossom, Sir Norman Foster and Renzo Piano a Pelli design should be a welcome addiction. Cool
T thereweresevenineightMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
An announcement was made last week that a new $225 million project will be built in the Uptown section of Dallas, and Cesar Pelli will be the designer. Cool

With nearby buildings in the Arts District designed by I.M. Pei, Philip Johnson, SOM, George Dahl, Sir Alfred Bossom, Sir Norman Foster and Renzo Piano a Pelli design should be a welcome addiction. Cool
I need to make it down to your neck of the woods someday... Cool
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by VinToronto:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by VinToronto:


Do you like his work?


I saw a number of pieces in Paris in 2004 (?) that were clearly influenced by Motherwell and Kline that I liked. I saw a couple of pieces that made me think of the works of Tapies that I loved in an art journal recently.

I would enjoy seeing the piece you are buying.


Vin, did you buy?


Yes. We were to pick it up this weekend, but Mr. Hoffman graciously offered to have it framed for us at the same pricing he would receive. We will take possession sometime next week when it is complete. Smile

Drop me a note at <edited> and I would be happy to forward a pic of the finished product, and the story of how the piece was inspired by a line of my partner's poetry.


Vin, I received your photo of your new piece, and it is wonderful! I like the Twombly and Tapies influence as well. Thanks for sending me the photo.

I emailed you a few of our paintings (15 or so) that I had on my iPhone. Bad photography for sure with the iPhone, but you can at least get a feel anyway.
T thereweresevenineightMember
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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
I was quite happy with the winner selected givem the exhibits in the finale. Excellent choice, and I'd be happy to own several of the pieces in that exhibit (except for the values now placed on those pieces!).
It was nice to see the artists have the time to produce exceptional works of art! I will wait to opine until w+a has confirmed that he has watched the finale. Smile
W wine+artMember
Vin, KSC02 was curious about your purchase, so I shared your email with him.

I shared with my wife that I sent you 15 or so iPhone photos of some of our art and sculpture. She then started asking if I sent you a photo of this one, or that one, or this one, or... Turns out I did not send you one photo of the first few pieces she thought I should have.

Sometimes I think I share too much with her. Eek Wink

Enjoy your new acquisition.
vintvintMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Vin, KSC02 was curious about your purchase, so I shared your email with him.

I shared with my wife that I sent you 15 or so iPhone photos of some of our art and sculpture. She then started asking if I sent you a photo of this one, or that one, or this one, or... Turns out I did not send you one photo of the first few pieces she thought I should have.

Sometimes I think I share too much with her. Eek Wink

Enjoy your new acquisition.


We love it, thanks. Methinks it may not be the last Hoffman we acquire.
Listen to your wife...send photos of everything she says! Big Grin
K ksc02Member
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Vin, KSC02 was curious about your purchase, so I shared your email with him.

I requested w+a to send me your email as I didn't want to 'pile on' the post. I hope you don't mind.

I really like your Hoffman, VinToronto. In fact, the email came in on my iPhone and was attached at the bottom. Reading the written work prior to seeing the piece was excellent and I'm glad I saw it in this order. In fact, I really enjoyed both pieces (written and painted). Seperately, they were excellent. Together they enhance each other even more.

Well done, VT. I've admittedly, not been aware of Uno Hoffman but this has really caught my attention. I am beginning to read up a bit now. Thanks for sharing.
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by MJAlbers:
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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
I was quite happy with the winner selected givem the exhibits in the finale. Excellent choice, and I'd be happy to own several of the pieces in that exhibit (except for the values now placed on those pieces!).
It was nice to see the artists have the time to produce exceptional works of art! I will wait to opine until w+a has confirmed that he has watched the finale. Smile


M, thanks for not spoiling the final for me. I will watch it very soon.

I'm thinking there are two of the three finalist that have a chance to win.
vintvintMember
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Vin, KSC02 was curious about your purchase, so I shared your email with him.

I requested w+a to send me your email as I didn't want to 'pile on' the post. I hope you don't mind.

I really like your Hoffman, VinToronto. In fact, the email came in on my iPhone and was attached at the bottom. Reading the written work prior to seeing the piece was excellent and I'm glad I saw it in this order. In fact, I really enjoyed both pieces (written and painted). Seperately, they were excellent. Together they enhance each other even more.

Well done, VT. I've admittedly, not been aware of Uno Hoffman but this has really caught my attention. I am beginning to read up a bit now. Thanks for sharing.


You're welcome, although C deserves most of the credit both for both inspiration and acquisition.

If you've got my e-mail address and you're so inclined, I'd love to see what kind of objets d'art move you. If not - totally cool.
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by VinToronto:
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Vin, KSC02 was curious about your purchase, so I shared your email with him.

I requested w+a to send me your email as I didn't want to 'pile on' the post. I hope you don't mind.

I really like your Hoffman, VinToronto. In fact, the email came in on my iPhone and was attached at the bottom. Reading the written work prior to seeing the piece was excellent and I'm glad I saw it in this order. In fact, I really enjoyed both pieces (written and painted). Seperately, they were excellent. Together they enhance each other even more.

Well done, VT. I've admittedly, not been aware of Uno Hoffman but this has really caught my attention. I am beginning to read up a bit now. Thanks for sharing.


You're welcome, although C deserves most of the credit both for both inspiration and acquisition.

If you've got my e-mail address and you're so inclined, I'd love to see what kind of objets d'art move you. If not - totally cool.


Vin, I will forward your email to KSC02 just in case.
W wine+artMember
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Watched the Simon Schama "Power of Art" segment on Caravaggio last night. The production is a bit melodramatic, but the underlying facts are fascinating.


Thanks.

The Kimbell exhibit ends next week on Caravaggio here in DFW, which was an excellent exhibition.

Their next exhibit starts in March and focuses on Impressionism, which I will not be attending. Big Grin
W wine+artMember
I just heard that Helen Frankenthalar died.

She had a major influence in the art capital of the world ( NYC) for decades.

She was a NYC native, and born into a privileged lifestyle, and her relationship with Greenberg and marriage to Motherwell did not hurt matters either.

She was a student of Tamayo also. For everyone that knows my wife on this forum, please never bring up Tamayo around her. It was my greatest art blunder. Big Grin
T thereweresevenineightMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
I just heard that Helen Frankenthalar died.

She had a major influence in the art capital of the world ( NYC) for decades.

She was a NYC native, and born into a privileged lifestyle, and her relationship with Greenberg and marriage to Motherwell did not hurt matters either.
I think of Morris Louis when I hear her name; he no doubt was influenced by her work. Although the transparent nature of the medium and style used by both is not my cup of tea, there is no denying its importance.

Now, I'm off to stretch a canvas and paint with bold tenacity and color! Big Grin
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by MJAlbers:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
I just heard that Helen Frankenthalar died.

She had a major influence in the art capital of the world ( NYC) for decades.

She was a NYC native, and born into a privileged lifestyle, and her relationship with Greenberg and marriage to Motherwell did not hurt matters either.
I think of Morris Louis when I hear her name; he no doubt was influenced by her work. Although the transparent nature of the medium and style used by both is not my cup of tea, there is no denying its importance.

Now, I'm off to stretch a canvas and paint with bold tenacity and color! Big Grin


MJ, no debate about it, Louis was influence by Helen.

I also agree the color field genre never demanded my attention, but it was a serious movement nevertheless.
W wine+artMember
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Her ass caused $10k in damage. Red Face

Having read the article, I'm under the impression (no pun intended) it was the intial impact to the canvas (stretch?) than rubbing her butt against the work.
The $$ amount of "Damage" is clearly a number pulled out of said Art dealer's a** Roll Eyes


I can only imagine what Warhol would have done if she had rubbed her ass against one of his works. ( see Dennis Hopper & Warhol) Big Grin
K ksc02Member
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I can only imagine what Warhol would have done if she had rubbed her ass against one of his works. ( see Dennis Hopper & Warhol) Big Grin

Perfect case in point, w+a. This painting now has a notariety that it otherwise would never have. There's an entire stigma to it. It will profit as a result. I'll leave it at that.

Speaking of Warhol, I recall (about 13 yrs ago) back being offered several of his infamous Piss Paintings.
Urrr...no thanks
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
I can only imagine what Warhol would have done if she had rubbed her ass against one of his works. ( see Dennis Hopper & Warhol) Big Grin

Perfect case in point, w+a. This painting now has a notariety that it otherwise would never have. There's an entire stigma to it. It will profit as a result. I'll leave it at that.

Speaking of Warhol, I recall (about 13 yrs ago) back being offered several of his infamous Piss Paintings.
Urrr...no thanks


I have never seen these.
W wine+artMember
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Saw "Chagall and the Russian Avant-Garde" exhibit today at the AGO.

"Blue Circus" is simply electrifying in person.


Chagall is greatness, indeed.

At his death in the 80's, you could still buy some of his work below $4-5,000. Eek

We greatly enjoy our piece, and PlanoWino also has a couple of wonderful works. My twin DoktaP almost bought a beautiful Chagall last year.
vintvintMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by VinToronto:
Saw "Chagall and the Russian Avant-Garde" exhibit today at the AGO.

"Blue Circus" is simply electrifying in person.


Chagall is greatness, indeed.

At his death in the 80's, you could still buy some of his work below $4-5,000. Eek

We greatly enjoy our piece, and PlanoWino also has a couple of wonderful works. My twin DoktaP almost bought a beautiful Chagall last year.


Apparently he produced some 10,000 works in his 97 years. Given that theoretical supply, you'd think prices would still be somewhat sane. What's the entry price point nowadays?

Your piece - what era is it from? I'm guessing 1940's?
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by VinToronto:


Apparently he produced some 10,000 works in his 97 years. Given that theoretical supply, you'd think prices would still be somewhat sane. What's the entry price point nowadays?

Your piece - what era is it from? I'm guessing 1940's?


Vin, you are right. Like so many of the great artist of the Modern Era, printmaking was a serious art form. Many of the serious worldwide exhibits today include well executed prints.

There are quality Chagall prints available for a few thousand indeed, but as you know, there are many variables that one needs to understand.

All this said, Picasso produced 30,000 works, and buying/understanding this minefield can be VERY expensive. Smile

Our Chagall is from 1960.
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