Originally posted by Swade:
Thanks for the replies. This is pretty much what I was told and how I've been enjoying them. It's about the same as with classed growth Bordeaux, I don't open them until they are at least ten years old. Longer for my top growths.
As for the wines from the surrounding areas, what a great area for good QPRs and daily drinkers. Good food wines. Some of those from good vintages can hold up and reward some mid-term cellaring too. I been enjoying a lot of wines from 2005 from the neighboring areas. The 2010s are really good too.
Bordeaux is quite different though, and at one time people drank the CdPs while they were waiting for their Bordeaux to come around. These days, since CdPs have become expensive, people think they all need to come around too, but that's not always the case. Really depends on the producer and preference.
You don't want to drink most "better" Bordeaux on release, whereas a lot of CdP can be quite good on release. The surrounding areas are today what CdP was back in the 1960s and 70s and 80s.
Actually, that's not quite true. They're not the same in terms of winemaking, which has improved exponentially. They're the same in terms of niche, where people don't think they need aging, they are to be consumed young, etc. But watch what happens to say, Gigondas over the next 10 years.
Not to get into any kind of argument whatsoever, but the thing to remember is that price does not mean a wine needs time. There are plenty of cheap wines that improve dramatically, and plenty of expensive wines that don't.