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-I like acid and tannin and do not like oak.

-That Riesling is a noble variety, and probably the finest white grape.

-Maybe 1% of wineries are really trying to make great wine.

-Any wine with a Napa label has a "Napa Lifestyle Surcharge" added into the price.

-Wine was meant to be consumed with food.

-99% of high end wine is overpriced.

-I score my wines 5 to 10 points higher if I am drinking the wine with friends.

Care to share your "bullet point" wine lessons?
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What I have learned the last ten years of serious wine consumption is:

- I like my wines young (five years or less)
- I like my wines big and bold
- I prefer new world wines, but I still have a open mind to try old world wines especially southern rhones!!!
- I drink reds 98% of the time
- I find it hard to find special occasions to drink certain wines.
- I do not like old world wine snobs
* You should drink what YOU like, not what others tell you is good.
* It is better to drink Champagne at 4 in the afternoon than hot tea.
* The price of wine is affected more by marketing and reputation than quality of the wine.
* There is no good wine to drink with really spicy food, like Thai or Szechuan---just drink beer instead, no matter how many people tell you to drink Gewurtztraminer.


"Life is short....start with the dessert."
* I pick Old World over New World most of the time.
* Wine is meant to be enjoyed with food. (like cdr stated)
*Riesling is without question the "Noble" white grape.
* Most people chase scores, NOT great wine.
* My greatest wine experiances are with friends.
* There is always a vinetage of the "decade or century" right around the corner.
*Too few trust their own palate.
*Many people can not or will not "wait" on a wine to show what it truly has to offer.
*Many great wines in the world under $30.
*Too few taste wine blind...thus are influenced more than they might expect.
* Much more to learn.

Fun topic cdr, thanks. Big Grin
Good post! My contributions would be:

* There's no such thing as a wine you can't become tired of and it's corrollary: a wise man buys wine in ones and twos, a greedy man buys wine by the case.

* Moods and Foods: the company you keep, your mood, your health, your food, your glasses, barometric pressure, ambient smells, indoors/outdoors-that and more-they all effect how you perceive a wine. Never write off a wine unless it's given a second chance (of course, a third chance would conflict with my first truthdom above).

* All roads eventually lead back to "B and B". Not the liquer, but Bordeaux and Burgundy.

* You can't really taste wine after about ten of them or so. Don't kid yourself. Corollary: Grand Tastings and Fairs with Medals (I don't care who the judges are) are meaningless.

* Comparing wines qualitatively by drinking them together is fraught with peril; bigger is just too easy to call "better". Comparative tastings are fun, but that's all they are.

* Avoid the temptation to buy the "new wine on the block". 99.9% of the time, the new winery did not reinvent the wheel (I fall into this trap more than I care to admit). If you continue to make this mistake, at least be aware that it's only real value is to impress others that you have something they haven't tried yet-useless vanity for sure.

* When it comes to wine, always be able to laugh at yourself and your opinions/comments. Wine prompts a lot of stupid remarks. We all go through changes of sophistication/experience/education and taste.

* Don't subscribe to newsletters unless you intend to spend more money than is rational to spend.

* Learn to spit/stop/sip when the situation calls for moderation. You'll sleep better.

* Never underestimate the generosity of wine lovers-sharing wine it what makes it fun and it's converse: you can't possibly underestimate the desperation/greed of wine hunters and wine personna groupies.

* At any event that involves guests who brought their own bottles, think three times before you comment on any aspect of the wine-from it's label to it's taste, look around to see who's listening, and then think again.

* Drink what you like, buy what you like. Having even one bottle of wine meant to impress and not having any personal appeal is incredibly sad.

* Bike racers' girlfriends/wives/SO's are by and large much more attractive and personable than those of wine geeks. I'm sure the same can be said from the woman's perspective.
- Proper stemware does matter

- The setting in which I taste a wine does affect my impression of it

- Blind tasting is the way to go to truly evaluate a wine

- There are other "normal" people who actually appreciate wine

- No matter how much I try to like zinfandel and German Rieslings, they will never be my cup of tea

- Gruner Veltliner is my favorite white grape

- When buying for long term cellaring, stick with what you have consistently liked.

- I need to find more occassions to drink my "special occassion" wines.
-There is not a "wrong" opinion about any wine, any time

-Stemware can greatly heighten the enjoyment of a wine

-When in doubt, drink young

-WA Wines kick butt

-I'll try anything once

-Never, ever drink red wine and white chocolate together - it's quite a nasty combo

-I wish everyone I knew loved wine as much as I do

-Wine is best enjoyed with friends and loved ones

* You will always remember the evenings you had a great wine-experience. And it is tough to repeat a "great wine / food / evening experience" with the same wine.
* Don't make every dinner a wine tasting.
* One should keep trying something new.
* Restaurant wine list prices mostly irritate me, because I would buy two bottles of a decent $40 wine and only 1 bottle if it costs $60.
* Find your favorite winesalesmen/women and trust them, yet realize they have to SELL wine.
* Realize that your guests ALWAYS will say that they like the wine.
* Guests will say they like a wine before they have swallowed the first sip.
* Take a Carpe Diem approach to what you have in the basement.

Taste is 100% personal. The best wine is the wine you like best, regardless of "points"

My tastes are different than they were last year, and will be different next year.

I prefer many wines with interest over technically suprior wines without.

Even plonk can be interesting.

Southern rhones have more interest per dollar than anywhere else. California has the least.

Just because I drink more wine than most doesn't mean I have better taste than anybody.

The experience can make a great wine forgettable and a quaffer memorable.

Rieslings rule.

I have much to learn.
- My favorite wines then were cab and/or cab-merlot blends, my favorite wines now are cab and/or cab-merlot blends.

- Nothing will ever stay the same. That wine "you love and will buy forever" will be replaced by another in 5 years, and then another, etc.

- Regardless of the stated alcohol level, I get a better BUZZ from good Bordeaux and White Burgundy than any other wine types. There must be something to that terroir thing.

- California Cabs are way overpriced.This is unfortunate, cause I like them a lot.

1. My teeth will never return to their natural color.

2. I don't care about #1 anymore.

3. My wine purchases will always be greater than my rent, so why fight it.

4. Board-O and DRAB will never stop fighting.

5. Thinking about #4 just makes me drink more, so it's not completely bad.

6. 25% of my caloric intake per day comes from wine. Hey, that's what vitamins are for.

7. I insist on being in total control of the finances. I hide my online accounts and bank statements in a sealed vault from my wife.

8. Pyang is the man in Napa.

9. This board is full of great people willing to share their friendship and wine at all times.

10. I can't wait to move in California in 1 year!

As with life, wine is a journey, not a destination.

I love collecting wine because I can share it with friends.

Wine is best when shared with friends (or spouses) Big Grin

Some people are turned off by wine snobs, so don't be one, share your knowledge, but only if the situation warrants it.

People who enjoy wine can still enjoy a bottle of Bud

Unfortunately stemware does help the enjoyment of wine, but be flexible and enjoy wine from tumblers if necessary.

Points are subjective, use them as a one decision criteria, learn to enjoy the wines you enjoy

"Quickly, bring me a beaker of wine, so that I may wet my mind and say something clever" - Aristophanes
Not every wine from the Napa Valley has a "lifestyle surcharge"

I do not like red table wines that taste sweet.

If you love wine your tastes will change; bear that in mind when putting a cellar together.

The "big man" is wrong; Zinfandel can be great.

If you start dinner with a Pinot Noir and then move on to a Cabernet, the former often upstages the latter.

I no longer drink "labels".

I still love great Chardonnay and adore German Riesling.

There are precious few great wines at any price point.

It is not greedy to buy a case of wine, it can be both instructive and romantic.
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Fun (and sometimes deep and revealing) thread!

- Trying new wines that I know nothing about can uncover some real gems.

- Even if I don't like a wine I can appreciate that someone else surely does like it.

- Generally I prefer to not analyze wines but just "sip and smile" and enjoy them.

- Those "special occassion" wines are called that because they can turn any average weekend day into a special occassion with my wife.

- I keep re-learning that it is just wine - not so much an end as it is a means to an end, which for me is enhancing the times you drink it with friends and family.
- I don't like aggressive young wines.

- Some of those aggressive young wines mature into something much greater.

- I prefer wine where it takes 2 or 3 glasses to realise that it is truly great, rather than those whose greatness is immediately apparent.

- Alsace has the most underappreciated white wine in the world.

- Chile has the most underappreciated red wine in the world.

- When feeding wine to friends it is important to match the wine to their experience level.

- There is no excuse for badly made wine.

The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer
- nicely constructed Chardonnay is great.

- Vouvray is great too.

- but Riesling RULES!!!!

Having said that:-

White wine is a pale immitation of the real thing!

- too many wines, not enough time.

- in a fit of hedonism I once spent $3,000 (and 25 years ago) on a wide selection of good French reds and was shattered to find how many of the were sub-standard, dirty (H2S), sour and Bretty. Even the vaunted '76s. I have been very, very careful since.

- to balance that, three of my "epiphany" wines were French (1978 Clos des Mouches, 1946 Bredif Vouvray Mouseaux, 1972 Y'Quem).

- wine is best shared with friends ... absolutely !!
In the few years I've been drinking wine I have realized that:

I like drinking wine while eating something

Wine is best shared with friends

I don't have enough money to support this habit.

"I have lived temperately ... I double the doctor's recommendation of a glass and a half of wine a day and even treble it with a friend." - Thomas Jefferson
I've realised

- Riesling is the noblest white grape.

- Pinot is the noblest red grape.

- My cellar will never be big enough

- My liver will probably always be too big. Big Grin

- Wine can transcend being a mere food product when it expresses its variety, place, and time.

- Wine should be enjoyed/shared with good food and friends whenever possible.

Wine tastes better upside down.

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