quote:A note on moderation
When I first saw the title, I thought this thread was going to be wine related. Dangit man.
When I first saw the title, I thought this thread was going to be wine related. Dangit man.
When I first saw the title, I thought this thread was going to be wine related. Dangit man.
Mr. Horvatich,
Oprah couldn't have said it better herself.
I'm sorry to say this, but I've decided to shoot down absurd P.C. nonsense whenever I hear it, as I am convinced that ideas like yours are dangerous. I, too was welcomed. I've contributed my share of controversy on the old MTH board (What a time that was! America under attack, a presidential election, how could we not discuss those things!)
Most "newbies" are ADULTS, fully capable of psting a message on an internet forum, and I doubt they need your care and concern. (By the way, do you call the soldiers in Iraq "children?")
I think the celebrating and pointing out one's post counts is puzzling, but what the hell, if people want to do it and it creates good vibes, who is hurt by it.
I have said it a million times and I guess once more - leave the boards alone. Do Not respond to people who piss you off. I'm tired of crybabies whining every time they "feel" like it.
Oprah couldn't have said it better herself.
I'm sorry to say this, but I've decided to shoot down absurd P.C. nonsense whenever I hear it, as I am convinced that ideas like yours are dangerous. I, too was welcomed. I've contributed my share of controversy on the old MTH board (What a time that was! America under attack, a presidential election, how could we not discuss those things!)
Most "newbies" are ADULTS, fully capable of psting a message on an internet forum, and I doubt they need your care and concern. (By the way, do you call the soldiers in Iraq "children?")
I think the celebrating and pointing out one's post counts is puzzling, but what the hell, if people want to do it and it creates good vibes, who is hurt by it.
I have said it a million times and I guess once more - leave the boards alone. Do Not respond to people who piss you off. I'm tired of crybabies whining every time they "feel" like it.
I'm new to the board, but not new to wine. Does my low post count mean my contribution here is somehow less meaningful than others?
I'm here to talk about wine.
I'm here to talk about wine.
Only if you pay any attention to Mark. That would put you in the minority.quote:Originally posted by Rex66:
I'm new to the board, but not new to wine. Does my low post count mean my contribution here is somehow less meaningful than others?
I'm here to talk about wine.
What cdr11 said. (Much as I hate to agree with him.)
Well-spoken, cdr.
Post counts are meaningless.
Post counts are meaningless.
quote:Originally posted by Rex66:
Does my low post count mean my contribution here is somehow less meaningful than others?
In fact, I think it's the converse: yours are MORE meaningful, until you post enough crap to show otherwise.
Belated welcome to this region of cyberspace, Rex.
Just relax and let it be.... 
Life is too short to waste your time.
Life is too short to waste your time.
I'm not at all concerned with the size of my post count - I've got that covered. My real concern is the size of my NPP, which is so tragically pathetic, I'm thinking of splurging on a NPP implant.
I guess I appeared to be wide-eyed and wet behind the ears--just trying to be a bit facetious for the benefit of all us "newbies." It definitely ain't my first trip to the big city!
I learned back in the first or second grade what to do with name-callers, baiters, and bullies...I suggest we all remember those long-ago lessons.
I learned back in the first or second grade what to do with name-callers, baiters, and bullies...I suggest we all remember those long-ago lessons.
quote:Originally posted by Rex66:
I learned back in the first or second grade what to do with name-callers, baiters, and bullies...
Ignoring a problem does not fix the problem.
The only things a high post count here means are that:
a) you have been on this board a long time, and/or
b) you have a lot of time on your hands
I would much rather discuss politics, etc on this board than boards that are meant for that purpose. Those boards are too dominated by extremists that cannot listen to the other side. It is just like beating your head against the wall trying to get a point across to them.
Most people around here are more capable of thought.
a) you have been on this board a long time, and/or
b) you have a lot of time on your hands
I would much rather discuss politics, etc on this board than boards that are meant for that purpose. Those boards are too dominated by extremists that cannot listen to the other side. It is just like beating your head against the wall trying to get a point across to them.
Most people around here are more capable of thought.
quote:Originally posted by Rex66:
I learned back in the first or second grade what to do with name-callers, baiters, and bullies...I suggest we all remember those long-ago lessons.
Have your older brother kick their a$$?
quote:Originally posted by grunhauser:
Ignoring a problem does not fix the problem.[/QUOTE]
DITTO!
quote:Originally posted by ronmc2:quote:Originally posted by Rex66:
I learned back in the first or second grade what to do with name-callers, baiters, and bullies...I suggest we all remember those long-ago lessons.
Have your older brother kick their a$$?
I was that older brother. And after awhile, I got sick and tired of kicking some minor delinquents' behinds on weekly basis and took my little brother to my Shotokan school. Problem solved.
He's been kicking a$$ ever since...even mine.
quote:Originally posted by cdr11:
Most "newbies" are ADULTS, fully capable of psting a message on an internet forum, and I doubt they need your care and concern. (By the way, do you call the soldiers in Iraq "children?")
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I have said it a million times and I guess once more - leave the boards alone. Do Not respond to people who piss you off. I'm tired of crybabies whining every time they "feel" like it.
OK, but remember, this is a free country, and WS is a Private enterprise, so it has the right to be as paternalistic and controlling over the board as it wants to be. If posters cannot demonstrate that they deserve to be treated as adults, WS is not obligated to treat them as such.
Joe,
I've taken some action. I've found another place on the internet to read and learn about wine. I plan to let my WS print subscription expire as well as my online subscription.
I've had some good times here...time to move on.
I've taken some action. I've found another place on the internet to read and learn about wine. I plan to let my WS print subscription expire as well as my online subscription.
I've had some good times here...time to move on.
Just read through this entire thread. I have to admit, I visit this site less and less. I am guessing that at some point I will probably just stop visiting.
Hey Joe, no one else on this board has come close to doing what the S-Virus has done to this board. Your inaction is baffling, and your "note on moderation" is absolutely pathetic.
Unfortunately, as demonstrated by this thread, the Virus has metastasized into other usernames. Great.
Hey Joe, no one else on this board has come close to doing what the S-Virus has done to this board. Your inaction is baffling, and your "note on moderation" is absolutely pathetic.
Unfortunately, as demonstrated by this thread, the Virus has metastasized into other usernames. Great.
Melissa, don't you get it ? Asking about why Serge was not kicked out of WS Board has nothing to do with talking about or learning about wine. This isn't a place for you to harrass Bella, Serge or try to get them to make a fool out of themselves. They do that on their own, they certainly don't need you to egg them on.
Get a life. You have a wonderful cellar. Drink wine from it, post notes on it, talk about it, but stop beating the dead horse. It's way old. This isn't a personal life playground, its a wine playground.
Get a life. You have a wonderful cellar. Drink wine from it, post notes on it, talk about it, but stop beating the dead horse. It's way old. This isn't a personal life playground, its a wine playground.
The Virus is advising others not to harrass other posters. Ironic. Pathetic also.
Joe,
Is an off topic section out of the question?
Is an off topic section out of the question?
Dr. Zeuss=Flubisquote:Originally posted by Dr. Zuess:
Melissa, don't you get it ? Asking about why Serge was not kicked out of WS Board has nothing to do with talking about or learning about wine. This isn't a place for you to harrass Bella, Serge or try to get them to make a fool out of themselves. They do that on their own, they certainly don't need you to egg them on.
Get a life. You have a wonderful cellar. Drink wine from it, post notes on it, talk about it, but stop beating the dead horse. It's way old. This isn't a personal life playground, its a wine playground.
No, Fair Mistress of the Culinary Arts,
That was a ruse. You fell for it. Twas not Flubis from the infamous Green bean thread.
That was a ruse. You fell for it. Twas not Flubis from the infamous Green bean thread.
Joseph Vissarionovich Djugashvili always loved a good purge, as any good Russian would understand. Bea Turtle, thank you for your assistance in helping get the moderator to take notice in a manner that may restore some civility to the board. The threads that were deleted that you and I were posting to of late pointed out with ridiculing humor the illness that the board's "virus" was causing. [Serge, if you're out there, SM is NOT RDocMDoc.] The moderator took action. Grunhauser understood the situation. You can't ignore some people. You have to best them at their own game. Now, I do not intend to post to the forums ever again, but hope to be able to merely return to the lurking as I have for quite some time. If in the future, I must reactivate my medical license to help sanitize the board of viruses, I may very well. For the time being, I am returning to private life, with a good foie gras and my sauternes. 
quote:Originally posted by Bella Donna:
Zeuss=Flubis
You are 100% wrong.
It's her M.O.
Whether the plucked one is gone or not is not the point anymore. Thanks to efforts of few brave souls he's been exposed for what he is - a disease. Everyone (except Hunter) knows it and will act accordingly, I hope. We have a nice community here. Lets keep it that way.
p.s. Zeuss is Serge.
On September 4th he asks his good buddy Hunter about '97 Caymus.
on september 9th he posts a tasting note on '97 Caymus.
That's just one example which may seem coincidental to some, but if you take into account the bland personality of Zeuss and his obssession with Serge, you don't even need to connect the dots.
p.s. Zeuss is Serge.
On September 4th he asks his good buddy Hunter about '97 Caymus.
on september 9th he posts a tasting note on '97 Caymus.
That's just one example which may seem coincidental to some, but if you take into account the bland personality of Zeuss and his obssession with Serge, you don't even need to connect the dots.
No bad Grun. Almost as good as my work on the Wine Wizard case.
This one didn't need Charlie Chan though.
This one didn't need Charlie Chan though.
quote:Originally posted by grunhauser:
Whether the plucked one is gone or not is not the point anymore. Thanks to efforts of few brave souls he's been exposed for what he is - a disease. Everyone (except Hunter) knows it and will act accordingly, I hope. We have a nice community here. Lets keep it that way.
p.s. Zeuss is Serge.
On September 4th he asks his good buddy Hunter about '97 Caymus.
on september 9th he posts a tasting note on '97 Caymus.
That's just one example which may seem coincidental to some, but if you take into account the bland personality of Zeuss and his obssession with Serge, you don't even need to connect the dots.
Great work Inspector Clouseau!!!!
Now what do you propse Wine Spectator do with
"cloned members", i.e. members who create clones?
I can't wait to hear your suggestions. Don't be shy. I'm sure all thirty of you have something meaningful to say.
Absolutely nothing. We wouldn't wish to deprive you of the shield you are now using. Nice contribution to the thread, Mr. "I always use my REAL NAME".quote:Now what do you propse Wine Spectator do with
"cloned members", i.e. members who create clones?
quote:Now what do you propse Wine Spectator do with
"cloned members", i.e. members who create clones?
Grunhausers clones are good for stearing conversation in interesting directions. I did not even know he had clones till Hunter let the Bob St. Clair thing slip, oh well.
quote:Originally posted by Deryl:
The only things a high post count here means are that:
a) you have been on this board a long time, and/or
b) you have a lot of time on your hands
I would much rather discuss politics, etc on this board than boards that are meant for that purpose. Those boards are too dominated by extremists that cannot listen to the other side. It is just like beating your head against the wall trying to get a point across to them.
Most people around here are more capable of thought.
Post counts is meaningless and to prove that I'm retiring Serge Birbrair moniker and starting a new. Every time I reach 1000 posts mark, I'll start a new moniker to prove my point. Once one establishes who he/she is,
the post count is meaningless.
no comment
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Serge Birbrair:
I'm retiring Serge Birbrair moniker and starting a new. Every time I reach 1000 posts mark, I'll start a new moniker to prove my point. QUOTE]
Does this mean we'll have to figure out who to ignore EVERY month and a half?
I'm retiring Serge Birbrair moniker and starting a new. Every time I reach 1000 posts mark, I'll start a new moniker to prove my point. QUOTE]
Does this mean we'll have to figure out who to ignore EVERY month and a half?
Yawn.
Just read what you want and ignore the rest or leave. Pretty simple IMO.
That said, I do find it curious that WS does not really use these forums to their best advantage. Think about the special topics forums they could create to guide a discussion about wine. Think of the special guests threads they could coordinate to allow all interested to interact with some of the folks in the biz that would never come here. If WS were really about wanting to make their forums a success that they could be, they would and it might be quite fantastic. This would assume that they'd want to at least give the appearance that their forums gave a damn to them and were a conceivable asset rather than the state that they have sometimes sunken to. I mean, think about all of the real wine knowledge and education that could be gleaned off of a well run forums section of the WS site.
I think that WS is here to make money and that's fine. Forums software is quite cheap to set up and run and it drives repeat eyeballs to the website which drives advertising dollars. This is all well and good, but this does not necessarily a good forums place make.
JMHO.
VinoCellar
RogueFood
Just read what you want and ignore the rest or leave. Pretty simple IMO.
That said, I do find it curious that WS does not really use these forums to their best advantage. Think about the special topics forums they could create to guide a discussion about wine. Think of the special guests threads they could coordinate to allow all interested to interact with some of the folks in the biz that would never come here. If WS were really about wanting to make their forums a success that they could be, they would and it might be quite fantastic. This would assume that they'd want to at least give the appearance that their forums gave a damn to them and were a conceivable asset rather than the state that they have sometimes sunken to. I mean, think about all of the real wine knowledge and education that could be gleaned off of a well run forums section of the WS site.
I think that WS is here to make money and that's fine. Forums software is quite cheap to set up and run and it drives repeat eyeballs to the website which drives advertising dollars. This is all well and good, but this does not necessarily a good forums place make.
JMHO.
VinoCellar
RogueFood
Do you ever tire of whoring for another wine site?
Thomas, are you saying everybody should go out and join your board instead?
What in it for me?
What in it for me?
He's pimping, not whoring. 
Thomas,
while you are saving and rendering your expert opinions about the board business,
how about I'll tell you everything what's wrong with yours? I know internet chat boards little bit better than I know wines,
the last one I sold was making $60,000 a month in ad revenues.
The fee for my 2 page review is $2500,
payable in advance.
References available upon request.
while you are saving and rendering your expert opinions about the board business,
how about I'll tell you everything what's wrong with yours? I know internet chat boards little bit better than I know wines,
the last one I sold was making $60,000 a month in ad revenues.
The fee for my 2 page review is $2500,
payable in advance.
References available upon request.