Does anybody have any recent experience or notes with any of the 2002's? I did a search and couldn't find much. Has anybody tried their's yet?
Thanks.
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l,
have been waiting for something to brake too!!!!!?
mine are just sitting!
have been waiting for something to brake too!!!!!?
mine are just sitting!
I will probably hold the SVD's till 2010 to 2012, and the Cabernet till 2007.
I had a 2nd Chance a couple weeks ago and it was tight tight tight. Never did open up, not really even the next day...Ive got 3 more and I wont be trying that again any time soon
I would be curious to know if any are drinking now...maybe One Lane Bridge?
I would be curious to know if any are drinking now...maybe One Lane Bridge?
I'm down to 18 of the Wykoff so what do I know... 
I wouldn't touch anything except the '02 Napa which suprisingly seems really good with some air.
I wouldn't touch anything except the '02 Napa which suprisingly seems really good with some air.
FWIW, opened a '02 Wykoff with some winos at my house back in May along with about a dozen or so other "mid-range" (50-100$) Bordeaux and Napa Cabs (Pride, Husic, Drinkward, Cos D'Estournel, Pape Clement, etc.) The Neal schmoked 'em all! 
ps: aired it out for about seven hours beforehand.
ps: aired it out for about seven hours beforehand.
I guess everyone (most) is sitting on them. I thought maybe someone might have drabbed a couple or so by now. Oh well, I'm not jumping on the grenade. Thanks for the posts.
Nice haul Stealthman-18 Wykoff? Wow, and I thought I bought a lot!
Anyway, I also have restraint when it comes to the '02 (and '01) SVD's. None of them will see the inside of my mouth for a loooong time.
Also, I must concur with the '02 NV drinking well right now. We tried one last week and was pleasantly surprised. It didn't even need hours of air, I decanted it for less than an hour.
Of course, the '01 NV is far from being enjoyable right now (unless you open it the day before you want to drink it!).
Anyway, I also have restraint when it comes to the '02 (and '01) SVD's. None of them will see the inside of my mouth for a loooong time.
Also, I must concur with the '02 NV drinking well right now. We tried one last week and was pleasantly surprised. It didn't even need hours of air, I decanted it for less than an hour.
Of course, the '01 NV is far from being enjoyable right now (unless you open it the day before you want to drink it!).
Most of those were chased down all over the west coast so don't go raggin' Mark about why Stealthman got so much Wykoff...
just my 2 cents on the napa 02 (neal)
open one too night and decanted it for 2+ hours. it was talking to me!!!!! drink drink drink
open one too night and decanted it for 2+ hours. it was talking to me!!!!! drink drink drink
quote:Originally posted by stealthman_1:
Most of those were chased down all over the west coast so don't go raggin' Mark about why Stealthman got so much Wykoff...
18! Come on take 1 for the team...
stealthman;
I am glad to here that you have so many Wykoff's. Now I know were to get some for my cellar.
mjn
I am glad to here that you have so many Wykoff's. Now I know were to get some for my cellar.
mjn
How does one obtain 18 qty of any Neal single vineyard?
stealthman wiped out just about the entire Wykoff inventory within California, he did however leave a bottle at Woodland Hills Wine Company. That particular bottle to the best of my knowledge is now sitting in John Spider Salley's cellar.
Okay, I'm lost on these SDV's, but I have never opened any of the SDV's! So, can someone tell me why the acquisition of Wykoff is so desirable? I think I have 3 bottles of the 2002 Wykoff, but why is Wykoff more desirable than any of the other SDV's--"One Lane Bridge", Chafen, 2nd Chance, Howell Mountain, or 15/40?? 
Am I the only one who thinks that "SVD" looks like a category of diseases one might contract from a hooker in Bangkok?
Rothko Your description is not helping me understand the differences in these SVD's! 
latour67,
Good question. I don't know your palate well enough, so I can't say if Wykoff is as desirable to you as other folks, in particular stealthman.
What I can tell you is that ever since the first time I tasted the 2002 Neal Cabs from the barrels, Wykoff has been my favorite. The two sets of formal barrel notes I took for 2002 can be found here and here, in case you missed it.
Validated by Gove just two seconds ago, Wykoff and surprisingly One Lane Bridge would be the two SVDs to open now if anyone want to try any of the six in the set.
Good question. I don't know your palate well enough, so I can't say if Wykoff is as desirable to you as other folks, in particular stealthman.
What I can tell you is that ever since the first time I tasted the 2002 Neal Cabs from the barrels, Wykoff has been my favorite. The two sets of formal barrel notes I took for 2002 can be found here and here, in case you missed it.
Validated by Gove just two seconds ago, Wykoff and surprisingly One Lane Bridge would be the two SVDs to open now if anyone want to try any of the six in the set.
pyang
Thanks for those links, which clearly explained the SDV barrel samples. Since barrels samples seem most always to be better than the first bottles, have you had the Wykoff from the bottle? Also, which one is better to open now, the 2001 or 2002? (I have a wine dinner to attend this Friday and I was thinking of taking a Neal?
Thanks for those links, which clearly explained the SDV barrel samples. Since barrels samples seem most always to be better than the first bottles, have you had the Wykoff from the bottle? Also, which one is better to open now, the 2001 or 2002? (I have a wine dinner to attend this Friday and I was thinking of taking a Neal?
latour67,
I've had the 2002 SVDs from the bottle, no formal notes taken.
First time I had all six bottling was in late April at the Red Carpet tasting in LA. The wine was opened maybe couple of hours before the tasting, not decanted. That particular night the Wykoff and Second Chance were the crowd favorites.
Another time when I tasted all six bottling in one seating were just a few weeks after that in mid-May. The tasting dinner was held here at the winery for a group of retailers from NY. The wine were opened, decanted and pour back in the bottle with the cork 24 hours before the dinner. On that particular night, there was not a clear cut favorite among the six, just whatever each individual's palate happen to prefer.
I just had a 2001 Second Chance a couple weeks back, tight, so stick with something from 2002 for the time being.
2002 Wykoff should be a good bet to show well, provided the wine dinner you are attending is not full of old world crowd.
I've had the 2002 SVDs from the bottle, no formal notes taken.
First time I had all six bottling was in late April at the Red Carpet tasting in LA. The wine was opened maybe couple of hours before the tasting, not decanted. That particular night the Wykoff and Second Chance were the crowd favorites.
Another time when I tasted all six bottling in one seating were just a few weeks after that in mid-May. The tasting dinner was held here at the winery for a group of retailers from NY. The wine were opened, decanted and pour back in the bottle with the cork 24 hours before the dinner. On that particular night, there was not a clear cut favorite among the six, just whatever each individual's palate happen to prefer.
I just had a 2001 Second Chance a couple weeks back, tight, so stick with something from 2002 for the time being.
2002 Wykoff should be a good bet to show well, provided the wine dinner you are attending is not full of old world crowd.
pyang
Okay its settled, Friday night I will take the 2002 Wykoff! I'll decant it for four hours and pour it back into the bottle, recork it and take it to the dinner.
As for the "Old World Crowd", I'm one, but I also enjoy the "New World Wines" and their richness and lushness. So, I will pour a 1983 Pichon Lalande first, then ambush the crowd (7) with the 2002 Wykoff. It should be fun. It will be the "Earthiness and age of Bordeaux" vs. the "Fruit and youth of California". I'll post the results! Thanks for the info.
Okay its settled, Friday night I will take the 2002 Wykoff! I'll decant it for four hours and pour it back into the bottle, recork it and take it to the dinner.
As for the "Old World Crowd", I'm one, but I also enjoy the "New World Wines" and their richness and lushness. So, I will pour a 1983 Pichon Lalande first, then ambush the crowd (7) with the 2002 Wykoff. It should be fun. It will be the "Earthiness and age of Bordeaux" vs. the "Fruit and youth of California". I'll post the results! Thanks for the info.
latour67,
Glad to help anytime. Just one quick thing, have a small taste before decanting, the Wykoff may not need to sit in the decanter for four hours. In fact, if you REALLY want to ambush the crowd, you may not need to decant the wine at all...
Glad to help anytime. Just one quick thing, have a small taste before decanting, the Wykoff may not need to sit in the decanter for four hours. In fact, if you REALLY want to ambush the crowd, you may not need to decant the wine at all...
pyang,
Our reservations are for 7pm, so I'll open and taste about 3pm and only decant if it is too tight. Otherwise, I'll recork the bottle and take it without decanting. Thanks again.
Our reservations are for 7pm, so I'll open and taste about 3pm and only decant if it is too tight. Otherwise, I'll recork the bottle and take it without decanting. Thanks again.
latour67,
Yeah, in all seriousness, do plan on decanting. From what I can gather by reading your TNs, I like my wine much younger than you in general.
Also, if you have one of those aerating funnels, it's a good idea to run the wine through that and into the decanter.
Yeah, in all seriousness, do plan on decanting. From what I can gather by reading your TNs, I like my wine much younger than you in general.
Also, if you have one of those aerating funnels, it's a good idea to run the wine through that and into the decanter.
pyang,
You are right, I prefer maturity in wines, but I also like the fruit forward youthfulness of the "New World" wines! Still, I will use my aeration funnel to increase the volume of air to juice---before taking the wine to dinner in the recorked bottle.
You are right, I prefer maturity in wines, but I also like the fruit forward youthfulness of the "New World" wines! Still, I will use my aeration funnel to increase the volume of air to juice---before taking the wine to dinner in the recorked bottle.
Latour,
Thanks for taking one for the team. Let us know how it goes. If you like it or need to replace it I've heard that Stealthman's in Folsom, CA might have a couple left.
Thanks for taking one for the team. Let us know how it goes. If you like it or need to replace it I've heard that Stealthman's in Folsom, CA might have a couple left.