1999 Robert Biale Barbera

Jones, thanks for the notes. I have always loved wines from Biale. I have some of the 99 Barbara, that I haven't tried. I also have some of the 99 Old Vines Petite Syrah (50 cases) that I am dying to try.

CWG-

50 Cases??? You better start drinking now! (or throw a big party and invite all the forumites)

Hahahaha. My bad. They only produced 50 cases, I have 3 bottles.

Sorry for the diversion, but..."my bad"? Is that a midwest term? This is the 2nd time I've seen/heard it. First time was from a guy in Kalamazoo (and he's president of a company). I had no idea what he meant at the time.

GATC - It seems to be a generational term or a lame attempt at inner-city coolness. Wish it would go away. My good!

Point well taken. "My Bad" should not come off the lips (or fingers) of someone who just turned 40.... I have been in error...

I wasn't pointing this out as a negative. It just seemed like the only two times that I've seen it came from people in Chicago and Kalamazoo so I thought it was a local thing. By your use of the term, I finally understood what it mean.

GATC-

I use "my bad" often when I'm playing sports. Like when I make a bad pass while playing hockey and the other team takes it back to my goalie and scores. Then I go up to my goalie and say "my bad."

I'm 27 and from the west coast. No midwest influence here.

"My bad" has been used in sports for a long time, I don't think it's use is restricted to the young. I used to use it all the time when I played softball (I'm pretty bad ) 10 or 15 years ago. If you watch much football, you'll see the qb point to his chest after he makes a bad pass. The announcers will often say "he's saying my bad" on that pass.

I believe I posted a TN on the 99 Biale Petit already. In a nutshell, I found it to be a little disappointing given my expectations.

Wow, this went from a Biale tasting note to a "My Bad" forum...Thanks for the info Jones. Usually love all Biale and my expectations are high as well. I'll pop the Petite tonight and post notes.

I will be interested to see what you thought of the wine.

Although I have not had anything by Robert Biale and only a few barberas ever, I have a question about barberas in general. Maybe I should post this in a different post. At any rate, the few barberas that I have had smell and taste very much like some pinots that I have had. Is this common with others? Of course, Jones description of the Biale would definitely argue otherwise.

Doc

I have not found Barberas to by like Pinots in my experience.

my bad, <>???? oh puuuuleeease.

eh, "oh puuuuleeease," there's another one! Wm. Safire is wincing.

Sorry, Mr. Jones, for the thread detour. Those huffy literary types on the loose again.

queen, "tell it to the hand".

Welcome to the forums, PP, you've been a goldmine so far. My apologies again, JW

as have you.

Doc:

Barbera and Pinot Noir are in my top 5 list - I drink a fair bit of each. I find my preferred Barberas to be medium to full in body, showing strong dark or sour cherry flavor, usually some vanilla notes from oak aging, a healthy streak of acidity building to the fruit-filled finish, and usually light tannins. I tend to prefer California Barberas to the Italians, but there are examples I like and don't like from both regions. I'm delighted to see Barbera showing up from places like Washington now, and eagerly anticipate an Oregon Barbera.

Pinot Noir is a different beast altogether. I agree that some Pinot Noir can come across like some Barbera, but generally the Pinot Noirs I like show much more earthy spicy character, usually a number of different fruit notes, a distinctive aromatic profile (floral, spiced, fruited), and a finish that to my taste is best when showing medium tannins. And I'm hopelessly biased toward Oregon Pinot Noir.

Queen and CWG:

In relation to the "my bad" comment, I believe the equal and opposite reply is: "It's All Good."

Or as it's uttered in many East Bay jurisdictions, "All Good."

I just had to chime in. "Sorry, my bad."

Thanks, Lafon. Remember you have to apologize (and/or tread lightly) when interrupting a thread with irrelevant material. There are rules.

Back to business - planning on the Biale Black Chicken Zin with a BBQ, any notes? It's a new one to me.

QOH -- Which vintage of the Black Chicken? The 1998 and 1999 Black Chicken and Spenker were my favorites. No notes though, just good. 90+ IMHO, just below Martinelli G & L.

Queenie:

Point taken. Sorry, my bad.

As to the Black Chicken, we have always enjoyed it. Let it breathe for at least 30 mins. I don't know what vintage you have, but we tried the '99 recently and my recollection is that there was a little spice to it. The Biale's story behind naming of the Black Chicken is also amusing, but I'll be respectful and wait until there's another thread that is on point. So, in a nutshell, the Black Chicken ought to go well with the BBQ. It should be "All Good."

Thanks for the input JW and msansoucie.

Doc