napacat posted:The Old Man posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:napacat post: How could anyone vote for a democrat. It just strains common sense.
How could anyone, of any party, vote for a bigoted racist sexist know-nothing demagogue of a president like the pussy-grabber in chief? It strains common decency.
You're kidding. Do you happen to recall what the other choice was? I have never seen a more anti-american group than the present Democrats. Just disgusting. They care zero for what they espouse...just try to build a dependent voter base.
So you don't want to address your hero's racism, bigotry, sexism, lack of knowledge of basic facts, nor his self-confessed pussy grabbing? I left out his record-breaking daily lies, his admiration of dictators, and his support for white nationalists. But...but...Hillary. That's the best you've got? Pathetic.
Why bother...you just repeat what the media wants you to think. All of the above is the narrative they have spouted from day one. You love Bill Clinton and suspend all morality for him...then hold everyone else accountable. Let's leave it as is....we're not changing anyone's minds. You should however, refund any monetary gains during Trump's presidency in protest. Send it into the treasury. Funds will be needed to help all of the illegals attempting to come in.
What the media wants me to think and not what I've seen him say and do with my own eyes. You're are truly deluded and your support for this slimeball is despicable.
But...but...Bill Clinton. Here's a link to the Soviet's favorite tack, and now apparently yours, it's the logical fallacy known as whataboutism. Again, you have no real response to defending the low-life in chief. And though you tried to make it all about sex I mentioned some of his many other deep, and anti-democratic, flaws.
And for what it's worth I not only don't love Bill Clinton, I don't even like him.
You are a very poor and weak arguer. Sad.
I'll give it a shot...it's not about "whataboutism"...it is rather just pointing out the pure hypocrisy. That is what is truly sad. I don't see Trump as a racist. The immigration issue is a complete joke the way the media portrays it. Trump never said he had a problem with immigrants. In fact, he said he welcomes all who come legally...as we all do. I have a huge problem with illegals. In fact it should make everyone upset when they see these people on TV stating..."we are coming and you cannot stop us". The media calls them immigrants. Which they are not. They are illegal aliens. Come legally and you are then an immigrant.
The Charlottesville thing...saying there are good people on both sides, that was blown out of proportion completely. There are, I'm sure very good people on both sides indeed, some who want to defend and keep the Confederate flag.
Sexism...ok I think you got me there. The tape was pretty bad. Cheating on your new wife is far worse and I think that is terrible. I actually have no respect for men that do that.
At the end of the day though...he won the primary and I could never bring myself to vote for a democrat, as I just don't believe anything they stand for. And the thing is...neither do they. They need to put people into groups and pit the other side (republicans) against them. It's the only way they can get people to vote for them.. Surely it cannot be based on their ideas...
Open Borders, reparations, Abolish ICE, Carbon Tax, more income tax...on and on with nonsense.
I'd like to leave you to your delusions, but as I said you're such a poor arguer, I'm afraid I can't.
Let's see how your handle Trump's long history of racism and bigotry (BTW saying that Mexico is sending rapists and murderers and SOME fine people is the pure definition of bigotry.) Your argument against, "I don't see Trump as a racist." Very nuanced response. I can give example and example (Restricting renting apartments to blacks, leading the movement to falsely claim the first black president was born in Kenya, etc.) But your brilliant retort, "I don't see Trump as a racist" shows your depth of thinking.
"The Charlottesville thing" (I love your name for this sick day in America.) Let's look at some of the groups that were there shall we? At the Unite the Right rally were, "members of the far-right and included self-identified members of the alt-right, neo-Confederates, neo-fascists,[ white nationalists, neo-Nazis, Klansmen,and various militias. The marchers chanted racist and antisemitic slogans, carried semi-automatic rifles, Nazi and neo-Nazi symbols (such as the swastika, Odal rune, Black Sun, and Iron Cross), the Valknut, Confederate battle flags, Deus Vult crosses, flags and other symbols of various past and present anti-Muslim and antisemitic groups. Within the Charlottesville area, the rally is often known as The organizers' stated goals included unifying the American white nationalist movement and to oppose removing a statue of Robert E. Lee from Charlottesville's Lee Park."
So I guess you and the president are saying those opposed to removing statues are the fine people. But let me ask you this, whatever your cause, would it drive you to march with people flying swastikas and shouting, "Jews will not replace us"? Your man/child in chief has always had a problem calling out anyone who likes him, even neo-Nazis. But he has no problem attacking black athletes and actors.
"Sexism...ok I think you got me there. The tape was pretty bad. Cheating on your new wife is far worse and I think that is terrible."
That kind of says it there, is it far worse to cheat on your wife than to sexually assault women? In the tape he says that's exactly what he does and almost 20 women have said that he has. But of course they're all lying. I really don't care about his martial problems, that's whoever is his current wife's problem, but sexual assault (you know like your supposed to be so concerned about like Clinton) is terrible. Also what kind of man agrees with someone (in this case the yucky Howard Stern) that is daughter his a "great piece of ass"?
Anyway, you're horrible at debating so please don't type more inane things that I have to spend time on correcting.