patespo1 posted:napacat posted:g-man posted:napacat posted:g-man posted:
Let's be very clear
The question was
"President Putin, did you want President Tump to win the election, and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?"
Putin - "Yes, I did, Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the US-Russia relationship back to normal."
and no, Putin has very clear grasp of the English language.
I can't help you honestly, I give you video proof of the question and what Putin says in direct response to you saying "show me evidence of collusion". Also pointed out the whitehouse transcript which still hasn't been corrected.
Whats the new motto? Don't believe what you see, unless Trump feeds it to you?
And your last question, "Does Trump want the extinction of a particular group?" Yes. it's called Free press. Let's not forget even legal immigrants are being targeted.
Fair enough... I see your point. I just don’t have the same hysterical perspective. I mean he had two to chose from and he chose properly! I personally think the overly negative press is going to bounce back and not work in the left’s favor. It’s too much... 92% or more negative%.
You could take a story from today and say the administration has succeeded in reuniting 1600 families (not sure of the exact number)...instead it reads admin fails to reunite 700 before the deadline.
Things are going well. Economy is great. Getting federal judges appointed and potentially a minimum of two SC justices. So far so good. Much better off than where we would be under a HC admin!
I do, because I happen to be American and I don't like Russia destabilizing our fundamental rights as Americans. You know, Country before party?
Also, you could take the story today to say instead of reuniting 1600 families to 2300 families unnecessarily separated that we had to go and fix it and still have 700 children without their parents.
As w the economy., look it's my business to study economic numbers, let me throw you out some numbers.
Forbes is hardly what one would call a "liberal" publication.
But just look at the graph. The real GDP growth has yet to top what it was in 2015 and still below what is a terrific 2014 where real gdp growth was at 5.2%
Non farm payrolls growth is still 20% below what it was in 2014
Real wage growth was 1.3% in 2014. It started up in 2017 but has been trending downwards and even started going negative end of 2017 to finally return back to 0% real wage growth. That means in all of Trumps terms, there has been stagnant real wage growth for all workers. Not exactly a raving review.
Lets take after tax income, 2014, the average real disposable income was 5.3%. It's only 1.9% in the past year and a half.
But what about the stock market you say? It would have been better during obama's second term, well until trump started doing some dumb tweeting and knocked it down to match the growth seen during 2014-2015.
Regardless, I'm of the boat it's stupid to talk about economic policy with folks who don't understand what acutally goes into it. It's a bad talking point where people just like to throw out numbers and has no idea what it means. Do you know waht the difference between 5.2% real gdp vs 4.1% gdp looks like?
But you know what you can tangibly understand? Blowing a 1.5 trillion dollar hole in teh deficit when times are good. You're suppose to save when times are good, not blow out your savings. And now trump is telling the Fed they need to keep rates low so credit is easier??? you know there's a popular phrase when I was starting work. I believe it was called "irrational exuberance". And now they want to talk about a second round of tax cuts? Then we're giving away free aid money to people affected by the tariffs?
i'm glad you're happy where you are because I'm certianly not. This fiscal conservative voter has been through 3 different market crashes and has seen his personal portfolio dip to almost 0 twice. I can't wait till they get everyone on this individual retirement savings plan, let's get the other 50% of americans who don't understand how to properly invest into the market!
I will certainly agree with you regarding the deficit, not something I can get on board with when Republicans specifically ran against it. That is not addressing a problem that needs immediate attention.
Back to the original question...if Putin so strongly denied meddling to Trump (we know he did), would he actually come out and say he ordered it at the press conference immediately after the meeting?
What makes us think that Putin denied the meddling to Trump IN PRIVATE WITH NO WITNESSES? Who's to say they didn't chuckle over their collusion in private while sharing a glass of vodka? Your blind faith in a PROVEN liar is remarkable.
And sure, some people are doing well financially under Trump (I happen to be one of them), but the overall integrity and moral fiber of our country has been shot to hell. Racists, Homophobes, and Misogynists have felt empowered under Trump, and while we now have a better idea of these peoples true feelings, it is shattering our country. The US is a joke on the world stage, our Allies are up in arms as we push them away, and our enemies giggle as they listen to Trump lack any reasonable, stable plan for our country.
Like PH said, best to disengage moving forward.
Completely disagree with most of this. Go ahead and run to the corner and chose not to talk.