quote:Originally posted by The Old Man:quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:
The changes they made to the Tyrion scenes at the end were significant and messed up the story. Not mentioning Tysha (his first wife) and the fact she was not really a whore etc., changed the context significantly. Was still good but would have made much more sense with at least some mention of it even if they did not want to bring the Jaime side of it. That is what led him to feel completely isolated, the killing of Shae, and the provocation from Tywin etc. This way he leaves on good terms with Jaime and does not have the total isolation so makes less sense.
The Weirwood man was disappointing as he should only have one eye and a large blood red mark on his face (which is a major clue as to who he originally is) and the tree is supposed to be literally growing through him.
Finally, no Coldhands and no LS?
This is all wrong. "The story" is the TV show Game of Thrones. It is based on a series of books called A Song of Fire and Ice. While it certainly needs to remain faithful to the source material is does not need to slavishly follow it. I actually think it is often superior to the books. It is so excellent a series I'm expecting the producers to fix much of what makes books four and five such a slog. (I believe they will take those two books and but them in a more chronological order for two seasons.)
To be specific: It's pretty clear why Tyrio killed Shae and his father. As to Weirwood it's his prophecy that is key (no spoiler here, it's pretty obvious it important) and as to the tree growing through him, to quote Hillary Clinton, "What difference does it make?"
I've always said the most insignificant film review is, "It wasn't as good as the book." Separate art forms.
I disagree with you. If you think I am "all wrong", fine. You have your opinion, I have mine. I agree it is the TV show which should be judged on its own merits. However, this narrative change (both aspects of it) significantly changed the reason for what he did in a way that does not make as much sense. Oh, my dad is a jerk and my whore humiliated me. Fine, he loved her it was bad, Tywin hated him ... The trial was outstanding. However, the back story is what explained all of this and why Tyrion cracks and they referenced it in Season 1 at length so why not bring it out. I also think that this particular change (one of the few I have quibbled with) detracts from the point of what happens with Tyrion. Yes, you understand why he did it, I have no problem following the narrative, however, the story oversimplified the action -
As to the Weirwood - perhaps you don't know what historical figure the character is, maybe you do, but his appearance is important unless they are eliminating who he actually is - in which case you are right it does not matter
I never compared the show to the books qualitatively.