Just placed my order, my wife’s and kid’s. Since 2002 vintage, I purchased, won, 2 Echezeauxs and 3 Grands Echezeauxs. No luck between 2008 and 2016. Don’t give up and keep on ordering. It’s fun and you don’t lose anything. I know I will be disappointed on Tuesday or Wednesday next week but I will forget about it next day until next year.