quote:Originally posted by aphilla:quote:Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:quote:Originally posted by khmark7:
Just my opinion. "Serious" rugs = Iran Similiar to Champagne vs. sparkling wines. Are there quality sparkling wines made outside of Champagne? Absolutely, but they still are not Champagne. Rugs from Iran are the highest of quality, command the highest resale value and their patterns are copied the world over.
Tribal rugs are very cool, and i actually much enjoy Kazak rugs hand made in Pakistan.... Oushak rugs I believe are hand made in Turkey, not that there is anything wrong with that.
An Oushak rug sold at Christies for $159k in 2008. I'd call that serious.
Maybe instead of the Champagne/Sparkling wine description you can say the best of Iranian (Nain, Qum, Esfahan etc.) are the Bordeaux 1st growths (at the top end of the manufacturing - just because they are from there doesn't mean they are museum worthy!). 1st growth's are great, but there is a lot of very serious, collectible wine outside of them.
I'd take a really great, antique Qashqai over a more modern, good but not great, quality Nain anytime. Just like I'd take a 1999 La Landonne over a 2002 Haut Brion.
Arguments over the subjective. Aren't they great?
I want to take issue with your assertion, but I won't. Maybe instead, I'll ask a question. Is the greatness of art determined by what someone is willing to pay for it?
Can art be considered great if no one is ever willing to pay for it?
Certainly the "market" puts various prices on things. These differing values don't always speak to the inherent artistic greatness of a piece. Rarity and demand often play larger parts. I collect rare (and to me at least greatly artistic) things that the market doesn't value the way it values other things with potentially the same "greatness of art" or artistic merit. But the market does value them...
Regardless, I stand by my assertion that a rug doesn't have to come from Iran to be serious, collectible or even museum worthy. Rugs from outside of Iran can have great artistic merit and people have acknowledged that fact through the high prices they are willing to pay for them.