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Originally posted by cdr:
Your quoted statistic of California being 5th from the bottom in per pupil spending is not relevant in itself, as an amount 50% less than that may be all that's needed to provide an excellent education.

Hypothetically true but subject to interpretation.

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I know of no study, and I try to read as many books and studies on the issue of public education as I can - I find it fascinating - that shows a causal relationship between higher per pupil spending and better educational outcomes.

I suspect that this relationship is non-monotonic. Nevertheless, it is not hard to conceive of a scenario where a special needs kid benefits from a special needs specialized instructor who conceivably costed more to hire due to their specialization.

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Originally posted by cdr:
Mr. Cabernet, I respectfully disagree with you.

The origin of life, like "Global Warming," is not "settled science," with a concensus among scientists. I am puzzled by the militant, angry attitudes and just plain silliness on the part of the True Believer Darwin crowd.

Thank you for your well spoken response. Note that I am not talking "settled science" (though I believe that evolution is), but science. Science has a definition just like there is a specific definition for a chair, talking, a water cooler etc. Science uses the scientific method. You may choose to dismiss its conclusions, but there it is. Intellegent design (creationism) is not falsifiable, it is not subject to the scientific method, therefore by definition is not science, it's faith. This doesn't mean that it's not true (though I don't think it is).

"I am puzzled by the militant, angry attitudes and just plain silliness on the part of the True Believer Darwin crowd." We are very unhappy when nonscience is falsely dressed up in scientific pants and attempts are made to inject it into science (ie biology) classes. Fortunately, so far, the courts have spotted the charade and barred it.

For a further discussion please listen to the New England Skeptical Society's podcast #141.

Guys,

Stick to the movies. WS Forums are not the place to talk Global Warming or Intelligent Design vs. Evolution. Or the California education system for that matter.

RT

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Originally posted by Robert Taylor:
Guys,

Stick to the movies.

CDR, I recommend showing your children Inherit The Wind.

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One I haven't seen posted here yet.
Little Big Man

BTW, I have read the book, and I think the film was better.

One movie that I do think was better than the book -

Jaws.....

Way too many choices. Would need more information on the age and sexes of the young uns. And whether to educate or to entertain.


Toy Story 1 and 2,

Ditto the Natural and To Kill a Mockingbird

i'll throw in:

Hoosiers

Not knowing anything else precludes me from adding further.

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Originally posted by mneeley490:
One I haven't seen posted here yet.
Little Big Man

BTW, I have read the book, and I think the film was better.

Little Big Man is a great movie. Not sure what film or the first film I would show a Young Adult. I guess it would depend on how old he/she is.

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Originally posted by tanglenet:

i'll throw in:

Hoosiers

Good call, great flick.

Rob Reiner's film "Stand By Me" is another I'd recommend

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Originally posted by Robert Taylor:

WS Forums are not the place to talk Global Warming

RT

I'm in total agreement.

By the way, Robert, do you think it's for real??

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Originally posted by Robert Taylor:
Stick to the movies.

An Inconvenient Truth.

Pulp Fiction
Zorba the Greek
Apocalypse Now
Citizen Kane
2001: A Space Odyssey

The latter isn't my favourite Kubrick film, but it is/was the most thought provoking one.

Roots & Roots the Next Generation

Roots first aired the night I was born. I think it is important to know where you came from in order to know where you are going. . .

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Originally posted by garnetkw:
Roots & Roots the Next Generation

Roots first aired the night I was born. I think it is important to know where you came from in order to know where you are going. . .

You know what was on TV the night you were born?

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Originally posted by sprnplr:
An Inconvenient Truth.

...great Science Fiction for the lads.

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Originally posted by wine+art:

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Originally posted by garnetkw:
Roots & Roots the Next Generation

Roots first aired the night I was born. I think it is important to know where you came from in order to know where you are going. . .

You know what was on TV the night you were born?

Roots was that important for a lot of folks and their parents. garnetkw, amen brother.

Two great films I haven't seen mentioned yet:

Second Hand Lions
Office Space

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Originally posted by Ozarks21:
Two great films I haven't seen mentioned yet:

Second Hand Lions
Office Space

Both good flicks, but I'm not sure what message you're trying to convey to a youngster. Unless it's "wear more flair".

When I started this thread I was remembering that I had taken my two nieces to see The Secret Garden when they were 7 and 3. The youngest was nearing her graduation from high school. Time changes all. Thanks to all who reminded me of movies I had somehow forgotten while also reminding me of other movies I had remembered yet previously failed to mention.

Movies are a great escape on a hot summer day when the only AC is the local movie theatre.