What the hell is going on?

I wish these f-ers would just go find a nice quiet place in the middle of the woods, shoot themselves there, away from everyone, and let the wolves eat their remains.

It will put it simple, my political views are definitely to the right. The reason we see this lunacy is because our liberal courts and leftists are trying to make the criminal the victim.

A real simple solution is to make examples of this shooter and the Fort Hood shooter, make examples of them with a tall tree and a short piece of rope.

I'm sick and tired of trying to find out what great injustice these f'd up people had in their life times that caused them to do this, and that they are just misunderstood. To heck with that. While I am young, I have had my share of rejections, humiliations, and been through some hard times, but gosh darn it, I've had the faith in God, and my inner strength, pride, fortitude and motivation to pull through it. Never once has anything like what these wack jobs done ever crossed my mind.

In conclusion, screw trying to figure out wtf their problem was that lead them to do this. Just string them up and the world will be a heck of a lot safer.

it's a sad week. and the worst part is the average american's lack of attention. the world went apeshit when kanye stole taylor or tyler swift's microphone, but fort hood didn't make anyone's "status update", and god forbid you bring it up at work. god bless this country, we need it. and god, do i love it.

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Originally posted by jorgerunfast:
it's a sad week. and the worst part is the average american's lack of attention. the world went apeshit when kanye stole taylor or tyler swift's microphone, but fort hood didn't make anyone's "status update", and god forbid you bring it up at work. god bless this country, we need it. and god, do i love it.

The deficit TRIPLING to 1.43 TRILLION got about 6 hours on the front page of MSN.COM. The balloon boy gets over a week of attention. Our priorities are wrong in so many ways.

"I will put it simple, my political views are definitely to the right. The reason we see this lunacy is because our liberal courts and leftists are trying to make the criminal the victim." - from Petite Syrah Fan

I am sick and tired of people blaming "liberal courts and leftists" or judges and lawyers and the court system.

No lawyers, leftists or judges pulled any triggers and caused this wacko guy in Florida to shoot up his office. The prospect of dying in a hail of bullets or being arrested and sent to jail for the rest of his life, or being put to death after spending 4-7 yrs in jail was not something that this guy considered.
Now, I am not saying that lawyers or judges or the court system is perfect. Not even close. (I am a lawyer).
But, this guy in Florida and the guy who shot up Fort Hood and the guy who blew up the building in Oklahoma City.....these people are nuts. They would not be deterred by any system you could design. They don't think about the punishment or the horror they are going to inflict.
Do you honestly and intellectually think that the guy who shot up the building in Orlando or who did the Fort Hood thing was motivated by leftists or liberal courts? They were motivated by extreme hate and were psychologically totally screwed up.
Now, I don't personally mind if they are executed. I don't mind if they are put on display in a cage and subjected to humiliation.
But, let's not be a moron and suggest that these folks are encouraged by or motivated by leftists or liberal courts any more than saying they are motivated by Twinkies or an acne drug or anything else that has nothing to do with it.

I dunno, Irwin. Twinkies can induce very violent acts.

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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
I dunno, Irwin. Twinkies can induce very violent acts.

You, my friend, are a genius...

Are twinkies actually baked or just a chemical reaction?

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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
I dunno, Irwin. Twinkies can induce very violent acts.

You, my friend, are a genius...

You, my friend, are far too easy to impress...

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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:

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Originally posted by dannyk8232:

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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
I dunno, Irwin. Twinkies can induce very violent acts.

You, my friend, are a genius...

You, my friend, are far too easy to impress...

FWIW I was impressed too!

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Originally posted by PetiteSyrahFan:
I'm sick and tired of trying to find out what great injustice these f'd up people had in their life times that caused them to do this, and that they are just misunderstood. To heck with that. While I am young, I have had my share of rejections, humiliations, and been through some hard times, but gosh darn it, I've had the faith in God, and my inner strength, pride, fortitude and motivation to pull through it.

Do you have the words to Kumbaya memorized?

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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:

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Originally posted by dannyk8232:

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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
I dunno, Irwin. Twinkies can induce very violent acts.

You, my friend, are a genius...

You, my friend, are far too easy to impress...

FWIW I was impressed too!

Today the sniper murderer is set to be put to death in Virginia. For those of use who live in Maryland, DC or N. Virginia, the time when he was killing citizens in parking lots and gas stations was a scary horrific time.
No one will shed a tear at his execution.
Again, his crimes were not caused in the least by leftists or liberals, etc.

The fellow who killed the physician who performed abortions in upstate NY has indicated that his defense will be that he was doing God's work, protecting the innocent newborns, and thus, the murder he committed was justified.

Right wing and religious wackos (these two, the Ft. Hood guy, the Oklahoma City bomber)...much more dangerous than lefties.

Have to agree with Irwin, at least in the examples he is citing. Liberals have little to do with the religious nut-jobs and the criminally insane murderers.

However, for the vast majority of crime and murders the liberals may bear some blame. Your average Saturday night killings in Baltimore, or Detroit, or New Orleans, or Chicago are at least partially and possibly wholly due to our permissive society. A society in which if you are a victim of this, or a misunderstood that, or a disadvantaged something else, you may not be responsible for your own actions.

Liberal courts and policies have engendered the "not my fault" attitude. That attitude hardly acts as a deterrent to crime - in fact, it may foster it by furnishing an excuse for bad behavior. A person knowing they will have to bear the consequences of their action is probably less likely to indulge in the offending conduct. Therefore, I also agree with PetiteSyrahFan, liberal polices can be used to make excuses for bad behavior which in turn, leads to even more bad behavior.

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Originally posted by irwin:
Today the sniper murderer is set to be put to death in Virginia. No one will shed a tear at his execution.

Good riddance!

I agree with both PetiteSyrahFan and Irwin.

1. This country's current implementation of "punishment" is astounding. 3 square meals, a free place to stay, sony playstation, flat screen TV's, full medical and dental with prescritption drug coverage for brand names, a gym membership, library use, internet, you name it. And we pay $30-40,000 per year, per inmate to have these things. This is OOC....

2. The people discussed above are in fact, crazies. And, there is not deterant for them. Fortunately, they are not the majority, and if you made crime "punishable"...and I mean tree and rope punishable...you wouldn't see a lot of what we do. Singapore and China can attest to this one...

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Originally posted by PetiteSyrahFan:
It will put it simple, my political views are definitely to the right. The reason we see this lunacy is because our liberal courts and leftists are trying to make the criminal the victim.

A real simple solution is to make examples of this shooter and the Fort Hood shooter, make examples of them with a tall tree and a short piece of rope.

I'm sick and tired of trying to find out what great injustice these f'd up people had in their life times that caused them to do this, and that they are just misunderstood. To heck with that. While I am young, I have had my share of rejections, humiliations, and been through some hard times, but gosh darn it, I've had the faith in God, and my inner strength, pride, fortitude and motivation to pull through it. Never once has anything like what these wack jobs done ever crossed my mind.

In conclusion, screw trying to figure out wtf their problem was that lead them to do this. Just string them up and the world will be a heck of a lot safer.

Just so longs as we have people who blame one side or the other, the system wins.

I blame the shooter.

I don't think he put much thought into how liberal the courts may be.

Maybe it's those liberal judges who let the Jews and the Black man hold down a fine white man such as this?

Crazy is crazy.

Lot's a loser white guy anger in the world right now.

I blame Orlando. Complete dump!!

I frankly don't truly disagree with Dr. Drab.
For me and you, the concept of being imprisoned is plenty of a deterrent. But, for others, apparently, it isn't.
Jail is too easy. Our cleaning woman, who is a fine person from the Caribbean, says that in her country, you go to jail, you suffer. She rails against the leniency of American courts and jails.
I know that in many countries if you go to jail, your family must provide your food and if they don't, well, you don't eat. I've been inside prisons in my professional capacity (I don't do criminal cases, but occasionally you go there for depositions of witnesses in civil cases). Prisons are horrible places. Give me the creeps. Very insecure inside. Scary. But, for the people in the prison, it's just not much worse than life on the outside, and, in some cases, it's a bit easier for the reasons DRAB points out.

Dr. DRAB:
This will drive you nuts.
In Maryland, the state will be giving some 1900 swine flu shots to inmates who are pregnant, or otherwise are high risk.