They did not deserve to win that game. Either Arizona is better than everyone thought, or Dallas is not as good as everyone thought.
Romo dodged a huge bullet when the tuck rule bailed him out or Arizona would have been up big. Romo just made way too many mistakes this game.
No, Dallas lost because their special teams gave up two touchdowns.
That simple! Almost an automatic loss in the NFL.
I disagree, Dallas lost because they were outplayed.
They could not stop the Arizona offense, especially late in the game when Arizona marched down draining the clock and kicked their field goal.
Not to mention dodging the Romo bullet which should have been an automatic TD for the Arizona D.
Plus, Romo's fumble and the O-line playing the worst it has all season. The Arizona defense looked sharp, except for the miracle Barber play at the end.
They did not capitalize on the other miracle of the turnover at the end of the second quarter when Folk missed from 35 yards out.
They got an early Christmas gift with that offsides call to bring them 5 yards closer to get the field goal to tie the game.
Dallas had chance after chance, they even won the toss into OT. They just got beat. At no point in this game was Dallas dominating or in control.
Posts: 1859 | Location: Anaheim Hills, CA | Registered: Nov 18, 2007
They did not deserve to win that game. Either Arizona is better than everyone thought, or Dallas is not as good as everyone thought.
Romo dodged a huge bullet when the tuck rule bailed him out or Arizona would have been up big. Romo just made way too many mistakes this game.
No, Dallas lost because their special teams gave up two touchdowns.
That simple! Almost an automatic loss in the NFL.
I disagree, Dallas lost because they were outplayed.
They could not stop the Arizona offense, especially late in the game when Arizona marched down draining the clock and kicked their field goal.
Not to mention dodging the Romo bullet which should have been an automatic TD for the Arizona D.
Plus, Romo's fumble and the O-line playing the worst it has all season. The Arizona defense looked sharp, except for the miracle Barber play at the end.
They did not capitalize on the other miracle of the turnover at the end of the second quarter when Folk missed from 35 yards out.
They got an early Christmas gift with that offsides call to bring them 5 yards closer to get the field goal to tie the game.
Dallas had chance after chance, they even won the toss into OT. They just got beat. At no point in this game was Dallas dominating or in control.
They just got beat, right, because their special team gave up two touchdowns.
It is not hard. NFL teams will go a decade and not do that, thus when you do, you do not win.
Anyone can pick a game apart. The facts are, without the 13 points given up on special teams which is VERY ODD, they win.
They did not deserve to win that game. Either Arizona is better than everyone thought, or Dallas is not as good as everyone thought.
Romo dodged a huge bullet when the tuck rule bailed him out or Arizona would have been up big. Romo just made way too many mistakes this game.
No, Dallas lost because their special teams gave up two touchdowns.
That simple! Almost an automatic loss in the NFL.
I disagree, Dallas lost because they were outplayed.
They could not stop the Arizona offense, especially late in the game when Arizona marched down draining the clock and kicked their field goal.
Not to mention dodging the Romo bullet which should have been an automatic TD for the Arizona D.
Plus, Romo's fumble and the O-line playing the worst it has all season. The Arizona defense looked sharp, except for the miracle Barber play at the end.
They did not capitalize on the other miracle of the turnover at the end of the second quarter when Folk missed from 35 yards out.
They got an early Christmas gift with that offsides call to bring them 5 yards closer to get the field goal to tie the game.
Dallas had chance after chance, they even won the toss into OT. They just got beat. At no point in this game was Dallas dominating or in control.
They just got beat, right, because their special team gave up two touchdowns.
It is not hard. NFL teams will go a decade and not do that, thus when you do, you do not win.
Anyone can pick a game apart. The facts are, without the 13 points given up on special teams which is VERY ODD, they win.
Very simple.
You are saying they lost simply because of special teams? You realize half of the point you are attempting to make comes in OT, right? Arizona defense PUSHED the Dallas O back, right? Dallas could not move the ball in OT, right? What does that have to do with their special teams? If their O played even reasonably well they would not be back up against the goal line giving Arizona the opportunity to block the punt. You can blame it on the special teams if you want, but I would blame it on the Arizona defense.
Dallas was never in the game. They got lucky to get to OT.
Romo fumbled twice, really three times, and Arizona scored 17 consecutive points. I think we were watching different games.
Posts: 1859 | Location: Anaheim Hills, CA | Registered: Nov 18, 2007
You are saying they lost simply because of special teams?
YES! Damn, how many games do you see that a team scores two touchdowns on special teams and does not win?
If their special teams do NOT give up but one score, THEY WIN!
Dallas out gained Phoenix by 100 yards, had more rushing yards, the same number of penalties, converted 6 of 15 3rd downs, and had 2 FEWER turnovers, and held the ball for MORE minutes.
So, how did they not win...SPECIAL TEAMS gave up 13 points.
You are saying they lost simply because of special teams?
YES! Damn, how many games do you see that a team scores two touchdowns on special teams and does not win?
If their special teams do NOT give up but one score, THEY WIN!
Dallas out gained Phoenix by 100 yards, had more rushing yards, the same number of penalties, converted 6 of 15 3rd downs, and had 2 FEWER turnovers, and held the ball for MORE minutes.
So, how did they not win...SPECIAL TEAMS gave up 13 points.
Are you sure you reading the correct statistics?
Dallas 4 fumbles , Arizona 2
Penalties:
Dallas 93 yards Arizona 70
Punts:
Dallas 7 Arizona 5
Not to mention Arizona had more yards PER PLAY, and Romo was sacked more than Warner. Dallas had more yards because they had more attempts, because Arizona was SCORING. 17 unanswered points, Dallas had 10 points come in the final 2 minutes, a MIRACLE. Dallas only ended up with more yards to begin with because Barber got his miracle 70 yards at the end. Without that play, Dallas yards and per play average would be way low.
Keep blaming it on special teams, THEY WERE OUT PLAYED.
The second touchdown on special teams came in OT, not in regulation. Why? Because the Dallas offense could not get it done and was backed up.
Even if Dallas did not give up the TD off the punt they were giving Arizona field position 15-20 yards short of a field goal.
How many times do you see a team get chance, after chance, after chance to win a game? How many times do you see a game tying field goal moved closer because an injured player can't get off the field? You are REALLY reaching.
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Posts: 1859 | Location: Anaheim Hills, CA | Registered: Nov 18, 2007
You are saying they lost simply because of special teams?
YES! Damn, how many games do you see that a team scores two touchdowns on special teams and does not win?
If their special teams do NOT give up but one score, THEY WIN!
Dallas out gained Phoenix by 100 yards, had more rushing yards, the same number of penalties, converted 6 of 15 3rd downs, and had 2 FEWER turnovers, and held the ball for MORE minutes.
So, how did they not win...SPECIAL TEAMS gave up 13 points.
Are you sure you reading the correct statistics?
Dallas 4 fumbles lost, Arizona 1
Penalties:
Dallas 93 yards Arizona 70
Punts:
Dallas 7 Arizona 5
Not to mention Arizona had more yards PER PLAY, and Romo was sacked more than Warner. Dallas had more yards because they had more attempts, because Arizona was SCORING. 17 unanswered points, Dallas had 10 points come in the final 2 minutes, a MIRACLE.
Keep blaming it on special teams, THEY WERE OUT PLAYED.
The second touchdown on special teams came in OT, not in regulation. Why? Because the Dallas offense could not get it done and was backed up.
Turnovers, Dallas 1, Phoenix 3.
Penalties, 12 each.
Did you overlook ALL the other stats I listed?
The second special team score came in OT, which is WHY they lost!
The first special team score came in regulation, which is why there was OT!
Of coarse they were out played, SPECIAL TEAMS are part of the game, which is why they lost.
You have become obtuse. There is not one coach in the NFL that would not say they lost due to poor special team play, just like it was discussed on the post game.
You are saying they lost simply because of special teams?
YES! Damn, how many games do you see that a team scores two touchdowns on special teams and does not win?
If their special teams do NOT give up but one score, THEY WIN!
Dallas out gained Phoenix by 100 yards, had more rushing yards, the same number of penalties, converted 6 of 15 3rd downs, and had 2 FEWER turnovers, and held the ball for MORE minutes.
So, how did they not win...SPECIAL TEAMS gave up 13 points.
Are you sure you reading the correct statistics?
Dallas 4 fumbles lost, Arizona 1
Penalties:
Dallas 93 yards Arizona 70
Punts:
Dallas 7 Arizona 5
Not to mention Arizona had more yards PER PLAY, and Romo was sacked more than Warner. Dallas had more yards because they had more attempts, because Arizona was SCORING. 17 unanswered points, Dallas had 10 points come in the final 2 minutes, a MIRACLE.
Keep blaming it on special teams, THEY WERE OUT PLAYED.
The second touchdown on special teams came in OT, not in regulation. Why? Because the Dallas offense could not get it done and was backed up.
Turnovers, Dallas 1, Phoenix 3.
Penalties, 12 each.
Did you overlook ALL the other stats I listed?
The second special team score came in OT, which is WHY they lost!
The first special team score came in regulation, which is why there was OT!
Of coarse they were out played, SPECIAL TEAMS are part of the game, which is why they lost.
You have become obtuse. There is not one coach in the NFL that would not say they lost due to poor special team play, just like it was discussed on the post game.
Did you overlook mine?
If you want to be that biased, so be it, if you watched the game you know Dallas was never in it. The Arizona D took Owens and Witten out of it early.
Dallas is down by 10 and Barber scores on a 70 yard shovel pass. Dallas is not within field goal range yet an injured player can't move off the field so they give them 5 yards as Folk would have never made a 58 yard field goal. Dallas wins the toss but can't move the ball any which way except backwards. Dallas is up against their goal line and gets their punt blocked. You don't see that as a direct result of Arizona pressure? I suppose if you did it would weaken your special teams argument. I don't blame special teams for not being able to get a punt off when backed up against the goal line, I blame the offense.
Arizona looks like the strongest team in its division.
The only reason there was OT is because Dallas received a gift, two gifts if you count the Arizona defensive touchdown that was overturned. I suppose that was great officiating?
Posts: 1859 | Location: Anaheim Hills, CA | Registered: Nov 18, 2007
You are saying they lost simply because of special teams?
YES! Damn, how many games do you see that a team scores two touchdowns on special teams and does not win?
If their special teams do NOT give up but one score, THEY WIN!
Dallas out gained Phoenix by 100 yards, had more rushing yards, the same number of penalties, converted 6 of 15 3rd downs, and had 2 FEWER turnovers, and held the ball for MORE minutes.
So, how did they not win...SPECIAL TEAMS gave up 13 points.
Are you sure you reading the correct statistics?
Dallas 4 fumbles lost, Arizona 1
Penalties:
Dallas 93 yards Arizona 70
Punts:
Dallas 7 Arizona 5
Not to mention Arizona had more yards PER PLAY, and Romo was sacked more than Warner. Dallas had more yards because they had more attempts, because Arizona was SCORING. 17 unanswered points, Dallas had 10 points come in the final 2 minutes, a MIRACLE.
Keep blaming it on special teams, THEY WERE OUT PLAYED.
The second touchdown on special teams came in OT, not in regulation. Why? Because the Dallas offense could not get it done and was backed up.
Turnovers, Dallas 1, Phoenix 3.
Penalties, 12 each.
Did you overlook ALL the other stats I listed?
The second special team score came in OT, which is WHY they lost!
The first special team score came in regulation, which is why there was OT!
Of coarse they were out played, SPECIAL TEAMS are part of the game, which is why they lost.
You have become obtuse. There is not one coach in the NFL that would not say they lost due to poor special team play, just like it was discussed on the post game.
Did you overlook mine?
If you want to be that biased, so be it, if you watched the game you know Dallas was never in it. The Arizona D took Owens and Witten out of it early.
Dallas is down by 10 and Barber scores on a 70 yard shovel pass. Dallas is not within field goal range yet an injured player can't move off the field so they give them 5 yards as Folk would have never made a 58 yard field goal. Dallas wins the toss but can't move the ball any which way except backwards. Dallas is up against their goal line and gets their punt blocked. You don't see that as a direct result of Arizona pressure? I suppose if you did it would weaken your special teams argument. I don't blame special teams for not being able to get a punt off when backed up against the goal line, I blame the offense.
Arizona looks like the strongest team in its division.
The only reason there was OT is because Dallas received a gift, two gifts if you count the Arizona defensive touchdown that was overturned. I suppose that was great officiating?
Blame the offense for getting a blocked punt, not the special team. Should we blame them for the kick off return also? You comments are foolish.
It is now official, we have a new poster boy for obtuse.
You are saying they lost simply because of special teams?
YES! Damn, how many games do you see that a team scores two touchdowns on special teams and does not win?
If their special teams do NOT give up but one score, THEY WIN!
Dallas out gained Phoenix by 100 yards, had more rushing yards, the same number of penalties, converted 6 of 15 3rd downs, and had 2 FEWER turnovers, and held the ball for MORE minutes.
So, how did they not win...SPECIAL TEAMS gave up 13 points.
Are you sure you reading the correct statistics?
Dallas 4 fumbles lost, Arizona 1
Penalties:
Dallas 93 yards Arizona 70
Punts:
Dallas 7 Arizona 5
Not to mention Arizona had more yards PER PLAY, and Romo was sacked more than Warner. Dallas had more yards because they had more attempts, because Arizona was SCORING. 17 unanswered points, Dallas had 10 points come in the final 2 minutes, a MIRACLE.
Keep blaming it on special teams, THEY WERE OUT PLAYED.
The second touchdown on special teams came in OT, not in regulation. Why? Because the Dallas offense could not get it done and was backed up.
Turnovers, Dallas 1, Phoenix 3.
Penalties, 12 each.
Did you overlook ALL the other stats I listed?
The second special team score came in OT, which is WHY they lost!
The first special team score came in regulation, which is why there was OT!
Of coarse they were out played, SPECIAL TEAMS are part of the game, which is why they lost.
You have become obtuse. There is not one coach in the NFL that would not say they lost due to poor special team play, just like it was discussed on the post game.
Did you overlook mine?
If you want to be that biased, so be it, if you watched the game you know Dallas was never in it. The Arizona D took Owens and Witten out of it early.
Dallas is down by 10 and Barber scores on a 70 yard shovel pass. Dallas is not within field goal range yet an injured player can't move off the field so they give them 5 yards as Folk would have never made a 58 yard field goal. Dallas wins the toss but can't move the ball any which way except backwards. Dallas is up against their goal line and gets their punt blocked. You don't see that as a direct result of Arizona pressure? I suppose if you did it would weaken your special teams argument. I don't blame special teams for not being able to get a punt off when backed up against the goal line, I blame the offense.
Arizona looks like the strongest team in its division.
The only reason there was OT is because Dallas received a gift, two gifts if you count the Arizona defensive touchdown that was overturned. I suppose that was great officiating?
Blame the offense for getting a blocked punt, not the special team. Should we blame them for the kick off return also? You comments are foolish.
It is now official, we have a new post boy for obtuse.
Congratulations are in order!
I thank you and graciously accept If only we could blame the special teams for Romo's 3 fumbles and for the Dallas defense not stopping 3 consecutive scoring drives. Your vision is truly remarkable, both in its assessment of myself and of the game
Posts: 1859 | Location: Anaheim Hills, CA | Registered: Nov 18, 2007
Originally posted by wineismylife: At the minimum can you two please stop quoting each other?
Agreed! Shesh. W+A, hate to say it, but "scoreboard." Today, Arizona was a better team than Dallas. It's a long season. A lot can happen.
Dallas has a tough division but most likely will go further than Arizona. Today, Arizona showed they can play ball with anyone. It will be interesting to see if they can maintain the momentum and spread the passing game further when Boldin returns.
And how about this Chargers / Patrios game
Posts: 1859 | Location: Anaheim Hills, CA | Registered: Nov 18, 2007
Indy, even Chargers fans can't really like that song.
That said, I might have to revise my 9-7 prediction for the Pats this year if they don't bench Cassel and put in O'Connell quickly. He's adding more evidence to my long held belief that scrambling QB's never win anything. Not that he deserves all the blame, the D line never even breathed on Rivers and the secondary sucked too. It's amazing that losing one player at QB, even the best ever, can melt down a team like this. The offense stinks, the defense is either getting worn out from constantly being on the field or has no pride and once this team is down by 14 points it's over and everyone gives up. It's like a bad flashback to pre 1996 Patriots football
I hate to see anyone go down with an injury but Dallas is about to go down in flames too with Romo out for at least a month. Brady, Palmer & Romo who's next for the scrap pile? Gonna be a lot of fun games to watch with either back up, washed up, rookie or lousy to begin with QB's out there on 85 % of the teams. If your team has a good healthy QB you'll probably go a long way this year.
Sorry w+a , but the Vikings just gave up two special teams TDs to the Saints on MNF, six days ago, and won the game.
Cowboys not so lucky. I saw today it was the first time since 1984 our so called special teams allowed this to happen, and now our punter is out 8 weeks.
Should we blame them for the kick off return also? You comments are foolish. 
If only we could blame the special teams for Romo's 3 fumbles and for the Dallas defense not stopping 3 consecutive scoring drives. Your vision is truly remarkable, both in its assessment of myself and of the game 
