By the way, what do all the Raiders fans think about the Kiffin rumors? I do not follow Raiders football, but I think there are several other coaches that deserve to be let go before him. Scott Linehan (spelling) of the Rams, Herm Edwards of the Chiefs and Romeo Crennel should be on hotter seats than Kiffin. Just curious what you think. . .

We finally won our first game after making Gus Frerotte the starter. We are at Tennessee next week which will be difficult. The nfc north is looking pretty bland right now with Green Bay getting beat soundly by the cowboys.

Keeno I don't comment on rumors or innuendo, but I'll be damn pissed at Al if it happens. Indy no smartass comments please.

For the second Monday in a row, the media is making rumors to be headlines. Not really being a journalist but rather a gossip columnist. It would be great to see a journalist report the news rather than create the news.

It would be sad if Kiffin is fired. Given the circumstances, there are not many coaches who could be successful and the Raiders have tried quite a few lately. Other than the defensive co-ordinator Ryan who was interviewed for the position the last time around, who else would want this job?

What I saw Sunday was that the Raiders played hard and were in the game till the end on the road against a good team. Yes, they made some mistakes but that is to be expected with a young team with a young coach. The Raiders did lose but they did not quit.

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Originally posted by Juicy:
For the second Monday in a row, the media is making rumors to be headlines. Not really being a journalist but rather a gossip columnist. It would be great to see a journalist report the news rather than create the news.

It would be sad if Kiffin is fired. Given the circumstances, there are not many coaches who could be successful and the Raiders have tried quite a few lately. Other than the defensive co-ordinator Ryan who was interviewed for the position the last time around, who else would want this job?

What I saw Sunday was that the Raiders played hard and were in the game till the end on the road against a good team. Yes, they made some mistakes but that is to be expected with a young team with a young coach. The Raiders did lose but they did not quit.

Juicy-

Kiffin's clock management in the 4th quarter was atrocious. And don't get me started on Ryan's defensive schemes.

Chargers win with emphasis, and just as importantly LT looked decent, not awesome but decent. Back on track baby!

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Originally posted by gigabit:

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Originally posted by Juicy:
For the second Monday in a row, the media is making rumors to be headlines. Not really being a journalist but rather a gossip columnist. It would be great to see a journalist report the news rather than create the news.

It would be sad if Kiffin is fired. Given the circumstances, there are not many coaches who could be successful and the Raiders have tried quite a few lately. Other than the defensive co-ordinator Ryan who was interviewed for the position the last time around, who else would want this job?

What I saw Sunday was that the Raiders played hard and were in the game till the end on the road against a good team. Yes, they made some mistakes but that is to be expected with a young team with a young coach. The Raiders did lose but they did not quit.

Juicy-

Kiffin's clock management in the 4th quarter was atrocious. And don't get me started on Ryan's defensive schemes.

I agree. You can look at any Sunday during the season and find clock management miscues. Do you fire a young coach with less than 20 games experience knowing full well when you hired him that there would likely be these types of mistakes? If that is the case, they should have paid Parcells whatever he wanted so he would not make ANY mistakes. But that did not happen and the Raiders have what they paid for, a young, inexperienced coach who, given time, will learn those things.

Right now, the main thing is that he has the support and effort from his players. Not an easy thing to establish for a young coach. Kiffin has done more right than wrong with this team.

If you want Kiffin fired, who is the replacement??????

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Originally posted by Dunder:
Chargers win with emphasis, and just as importantly LT looked decent, not awesome but decent. Back on track baby!

Next week, at Oakland!

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Originally posted by Juicy:

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Originally posted by gigabit:

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Originally posted by Juicy:
For the second Monday in a row, the media is making rumors to be headlines. Not really being a journalist but rather a gossip columnist. It would be great to see a journalist report the news rather than create the news.

It would be sad if Kiffin is fired. Given the circumstances, there are not many coaches who could be successful and the Raiders have tried quite a few lately. Other than the defensive co-ordinator Ryan who was interviewed for the position the last time around, who else would want this job?

What I saw Sunday was that the Raiders played hard and were in the game till the end on the road against a good team. Yes, they made some mistakes but that is to be expected with a young team with a young coach. The Raiders did lose but they did not quit.

Juicy-

Kiffin's clock management in the 4th quarter was atrocious. And don't get me started on Ryan's defensive schemes.

I agree. You can look at any Sunday during the season and find clock management miscues. Do you fire a young coach with less than 20 games experience knowing full well when you hired him that there would likely be these types of mistakes? If that is the case, they should have paid Parcells whatever he wanted so he would not make ANY mistakes. But that did not happen and the Raiders have what they paid for, a young, inexperienced coach who, given time, will learn those things.

Right now, the main thing is that he has the support and effort from his players. Not an easy thing to establish for a young coach. Kiffin has done more right than wrong with this team.

If you want Kiffin fired, who is the replacement??????

Juicy-

My issue is that Kiffin was never the right person for the job. They should have taken care of this in the offseason. Now that they are three games in, they have no other viable options.

The larger problem is the Owner. Until he no longer runs the circus, this organization will not be able to move forward in a positive direction.

Nine head coaches since 1987?

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Originally posted by Board-O:
The Cowboys, imo, have the most talent in the NFL, but they're playing too sloppy so far this season.

I do not like Dallas but they are a very scarey team. They have beat 3 good teams and played sloppy. Although nowhere near as close to sloppy as the Stillerz offensive line .

When the Patriots lost Tom Brady that pretty much made Dallas the team to beat. With the talent Dallas has and when they hit their peak they might be able to do what NE just missed out on last year.

Right now for the Stillerz we gotta do something about that OL. We truly have the worst OL in the NFL.

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Originally posted by gigabit:

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Originally posted by Juicy:

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Originally posted by gigabit:

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Originally posted by Juicy:
For the second Monday in a row, the media is making rumors to be headlines. Not really being a journalist but rather a gossip columnist. It would be great to see a journalist report the news rather than create the news.

It would be sad if Kiffin is fired. Given the circumstances, there are not many coaches who could be successful and the Raiders have tried quite a few lately. Other than the defensive co-ordinator Ryan who was interviewed for the position the last time around, who else would want this job?

What I saw Sunday was that the Raiders played hard and were in the game till the end on the road against a good team. Yes, they made some mistakes but that is to be expected with a young team with a young coach. The Raiders did lose but they did not quit.

Juicy-

Kiffin's clock management in the 4th quarter was atrocious. And don't get me started on Ryan's defensive schemes.

I agree. You can look at any Sunday during the season and find clock management miscues. Do you fire a young coach with less than 20 games experience knowing full well when you hired him that there would likely be these types of mistakes? If that is the case, they should have paid Parcells whatever he wanted so he would not make ANY mistakes. But that did not happen and the Raiders have what they paid for, a young, inexperienced coach who, given time, will learn those things.

Right now, the main thing is that he has the support and effort from his players. Not an easy thing to establish for a young coach. Kiffin has done more right than wrong with this team.

If you want Kiffin fired, who is the replacement??????

Juicy-

My issue is that Kiffin was never the right person for the job. They should have taken care of this in the offseason. Now that they are three games in, they have no other viable options.

The larger problem is the Owner. Until he no longer runs the circus, this organization will not be able to move forward in a positive direction.

Nine head coaches since 1987?

I agree. The owner is the problem and the reason there were not many coaches truly interested in the job, thus Kiffen.

Will be at the game this Sunday against the Chargers. Not sure what to expect but hoping for a competitive game.

Being from Denver and atrue Raider hater, I will say the Raiders have an ownership problem. No one of any intellect will consider coming there. The jerk fired Shanahan and then screwed him out of money. A blessing for SF and then Denver.

Does this clown have equally stupid children that will take over once he dies?

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Will be at the game this Sunday against the Chargers. Not sure what to expect but hoping for a competitive game.

I'm hoping for a flying car driven by Scarlett Johansson to pick me up for work tomorrow Chargers by 17!

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Originally posted by Redhawk:
Hey, did anybody watch my Lions this week???


It looks like they'll be drafting very high again next spring.

How about another WR?

Nah, I think they'll go back to quarterbacks again. The bad tastes left by Joey Harrington, Rodney Pete, Andre Ware, etc, etc, have faded a little.

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Originally posted by Redhawk:
Hey, did anybody watch my Lions this week???

Redhawk: What do you think of Millen? I have no idea how this guy still has a job (no offense intended, just my personal opinion). Lions fans have had to tolerate a lot and this guy has not helped at all. What are your thoughts and do you think he will be fired in the near future?

Yes, I think it's time for Millen to go, but I doubt he will be canned before next season. I think they're on a "3-year" plan with Marinelli. So it won't be until about game 3 or 4 next year when they realize that it's hopeless.

But even if or when they fire Millen, my hopes are still quite low. Millen hasn't been around for all 42 years of futility. But the owner has. Until the Lions get new ownership, I'm afraid they are a hopeless cause.

In my opinion, they need to focus on building an offensive line. They haven't been able to run the ball for years. Why? They don't make any holes for anybody. They haven't been able to pass effectively. Why? You can't pass if the other team doesn't fear the running game. Plus, it's hard to have a passing game when your QB gets knocked on his a$$ every down, even on a 3-step drop.

If they ever get a functional O-line, then they can work on shoring up a very porous Defense. It's hard to beat anybody when you're giving up 31 points a game.

If I'm lucky, my grandkids will live to see the day when the Lions actually win a playoff game. I think a Lions Super-bowl victory will never happen, as the Sun only has so many years left before it burns out.

Oddly, Lions fans are ever hopeful, and for some reason, they still fill the stadium on Sundays. I can't explain it.

Your wish has been granted Redhawk, reports out today say Millen has been canned. This is the first step towards recovery, unfortunately as you mentioned its like a 20 step process.

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I will say the Raiders have an ownership problem. No one of any intellect will consider coming there. The jerk fired Shanahan and then screwed him out of money. A blessing for SF and then Denver.

Does this clown have equally stupid children that will take over once he dies?

Well said!

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Your wish has been granted Redhawk, reports out today say Millen has been canned. This is the first step towards recovery, unfortunately as you mentioned its like a 20 step process.

I will be grateful if it's only 20 steps. But then again, these are my Lions. I don't think they could overcome a 4-step process.

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Originally posted by Sandy Fitzgerald:
Being from Denver and atrue Raider hater, I will say the Raiders have an ownership problem. No one of any intellect will consider coming there. The jerk fired Shanahan and then screwed him out of money. A blessing for SF and then Denver.

Does this clown have equally stupid children that will take over once he dies?

I believe the answer might be "yes". Unfortunaltely, I KNOW the answer is "yes" for my Lions. <-- note the sad face is wearing Lions colors.

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Originally posted by Juicy:

Will be at the game this Sunday against the Chargers. Not sure what to expect but hoping for a competitive game.

I'm hoping for a flying car driven by Scarlett Johansson to pick me up for work tomorrow Chargers by 17!

Similar dream but I have Charmane Starr picking me up and we are not going to work. While I am still dreaming, let's say Raiders by 3 hoping that the defense can play a complete game this time. The fourth quarter in Buffalo was brutal.

Now that everyone is talking about Millen being fired and looking over his record, the picks he made, and more importantly the picks he didn't make, I have to ask:

What took so long?

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Originally posted by Sticky2:
Now that everyone is talking about Millen being fired and looking over his record, the picks he made, and more importantly the picks he didn't make, I have to ask:

What took so long?

The owner is a senile old man?

Hey Juicy, I was reading that if LT gets 50 or so yards on Sunday he will break Barry Sanders record for most rushing yards in a player's first 15 games against the same team, it will put him at 1700+ (BS's records was vs. the Bucs). Just saying

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Originally posted by Sticky2:
Now that everyone is talking about Millen being fired and looking over his record, the picks he made, and more importantly the picks he didn't make, I have to ask:

What took so long?

The good news for you guys on the west coast is that Millen is now available should the Raiders want him back.

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The good news for you guys on the west coast is that Millen is now available should the Raiders want him back.

Brilliant! I'm thinking Al has already called.