Why all the McNabb hate Icewino and DVDad?

He's gone to five pro bowls, lead his team to a Superbowl, and according to Wikipedia, is the LEAST intercepted quarterback per pass attempt in NFL history. Also, holds the record for most consecutive completions at 24. And, confused about the dropping the ball before the goalline thing Icewino. I think you're referring to DeSean Jackson, not McNabb.

No, McNabb isn't quite Brady or Peyton, or Favre, but I consider him elite, and easily in the company of Big Ben or Romo, or Eli.

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Originally posted by indybob:
Why all the McNabb hate Icewino and DVDad?

He's gone to five pro bowls, lead his team to a Superbowl, and according to Wikipedia, is the LEAST intercepted quarterback per pass attempt in NFL history. Also, holds the record for most consecutive completions at 24. And, confused about the dropping the ball before the goalline thing Icewino. I think you're referring to DeSean Jackson, not McNabb.

No, McNabb isn't quite Brady or Peyton, or Favre, but I consider him elite, and easily in the company of Big Ben or Romo, or Eli.

He looked like an elite QB to me last night. Let's not forget that his top two WRs are out with injuries.

I thought he did a great job of sensing the pocket collapsing around him; he escaped certain sacks on several occasions.

I think that he is set to have a very big year, if he can stay healthy.

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Originally posted by MiamiAtty:

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Emmit's point was that to get to the next level, a team will need a leader to get them there. That was pretty interesting.

Why do they have the very bright Steve Young interacting with a dimwit like Emmitt Smith in the first place?! Being as articulate as Steve must make it tough to be paired with a guy who can barely utter two words without stumbling all over them.

I agree. I look at Steve Young sometimes and wonder what he is really thinking. Is Keyshawn still hosting? He has had to endure him, Michael Irving, and now Emmit. No offense to Cowboys fans intended. They could play football, but their commentary is just brutal.

mm go jets!

You have to win big games to be elite and McNabb is far from elite.

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Originally posted by Keeno:

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Originally posted by MiamiAtty:

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Emmit's point was that to get to the next level, a team will need a leader to get them there. That was pretty interesting.

Why do they have the very bright Steve Young interacting with a dimwit like Emmitt Smith in the first place?! Being as articulate as Steve must make it tough to be paired with a guy who can barely utter two words without stumbling all over them.

I agree. I look at Steve Young sometimes and wonder what he is really thinking. Is Keyshawn still hosting? He has had to endure him, Michael Irving, and now Emmit. No offense to Cowboys fans intended. They could play football, but their commentary is just brutal.

Keeno,

Never provide commentary with Irving and Emmitt Smith in the same sentence.

One is a crack smoking criminal and the other a true professional. I'd listen to Emmitt any day since his brain wasn't ever fried from illicit drugs.

Then, again, what do you expect from someone from the U

And yes...Emmitt knows his stuff, while Irving is much like Shannon Sharpe that's all talk, talk, talk, and are mumblin, bumblin, fools

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Originally posted by Board-O:
You have to win big games to be elite and McNabb is far from elite.

He has won an NFC Championship, which I would consider a big game.

Right now, I would put him in the top four QBs in the NFL.

Oh, I think he's talented, but he's lost too many games they should have won. Same thing for Romo to this point in his career.

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Originally posted by Board-O:
Oh, I think he's talented, but he's lost too many games they should have won. Same thing for Romo to this point in his career.

It will be interesting to see how potent the offense will be once he has his full complement of receivers.

Romo has much riding on this season. If Dallas does not win a playoff game...

Stillerz are 2-0!!! I got to see the game while in Chicago. I am looking forward to the Eagles game. I am not sure what to think of the Eagles. While Romo looks like a QB on his way to greatness, he gave up some costly plays that kept the Eagles in the game. The Cowboys have a weak defense, McNabb is gonna be in for some pain when he faces the Steel Curtain.

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Originally posted by PetiteSyrahFan:
Stillerz are 2-0!!! I got to see the game while in Chicago. I am looking forward to the Eagles game. I am not sure what to think of the Eagles. While Romo looks like a QB on his way to greatness, he gave up some costly plays that kept the Eagles in the game. The Cowboys have a weak defense, McNabb is gonna be in for some pain when he faces the Steel Curtain.

Speaking of Chicago...I hope the Bears Suck A$$ this Sunday!!!

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Originally posted by Chilepepper:

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Originally posted by Keeno:

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Originally posted by MiamiAtty:

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Emmit's point was that to get to the next level, a team will need a leader to get them there. That was pretty interesting.

Why do they have the very bright Steve Young interacting with a dimwit like Emmitt Smith in the first place?! Being as articulate as Steve must make it tough to be paired with a guy who can barely utter two words without stumbling all over them.

I agree. I look at Steve Young sometimes and wonder what he is really thinking. Is Keyshawn still hosting? He has had to endure him, Michael Irving, and now Emmit. No offense to Cowboys fans intended. They could play football, but their commentary is just brutal.

Keeno,

Never provide commentary with Irving and Emmitt Smith in the same sentence.

One is a crack smoking criminal and the other a true professional. I'd listen to Emmitt any day since his brain wasn't ever fried from illicit drugs.

Then, again, what do you expect from someone from the U

And yes...Emmitt knows his stuff, while Irving is much like Shannon Sharpe that's all talk, talk, talk, and are mumblin, bumblin, fools

You have a valid point. I just don't think he does the best job articulating his views. However, putting him on the same level as Irving and Keyshawn isn't fair.
I agree with you on Sharpe. That guy kills me.

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Why all the McNabb hate Icewino and DVDad?

He's gone to five pro bowls, lead his team to a Superbowl, and according to Wikipedia, is the LEAST intercepted quarterback per pass attempt in NFL history. Also, holds the record for most consecutive completions at 24. And, confused about the dropping the ball before the goalline thing Icewino. I think you're referring to DeSean Jackson, not McNabb.

I don't dislike him at all, in fact he seems like one of the better role models in the NFL as a person. I just don't think he's "elite" so to speak. He has had great recievers that can bring in some of his wild throws and if the story TO puts out there about him hyperventillating in the last minutes of the superbowl are true the prosecution rests, but who knows how true that is.

I do have the wrong guy, the highlights I saw confused me. I was actually watching the Sox/Rays and just saw it flipping back and forth and for some reason thought I heard McNabb's name during the replay of the drop.

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Originally posted by Icewino:
I don't dislike him at all, in fact he seems like one of the better role models in the NFL as a person. I just don't think he's "elite" so to speak.

Indy -

I think the same thing about McNabb as Icewino does. I wouldn't call it "hating". He is good. Very good. Just not elite....

Who is elite?

If the condition is winning the big games then Eli is elite isn't he? Yet I would still rather have McNabb as my quarterback.

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Originally posted by Sticky2:
Who is elite?

If the condition is winning the big games then Eli is elite isn't he? Yet I would still rather have McNabb as my quarterback.

My own personal definition would be someone who wins big games but also wins consistently. Thus in my humble opinion the only 2 current "elite" QBs are Brady and Manning Sr., though if Manning Jr. can get the Giants into the playoffs again and win a game or 2 I don't see how you could not include him in this group also. For that reason I would not call McNabb or Romo elite either.

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Originally posted by Dunder:

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Originally posted by Sticky2:
Who is elite?

If the condition is winning the big games then Eli is elite isn't he? Yet I would still rather have McNabb as my quarterback.

My own personal definition would be someone who wins big games but also wins consistently. Thus in my humble opinion the only 2 current "elite" QBs are Brady and Manning Sr., though if Manning Jr. can get the Giants into the playoffs again and win a game or 2 I don't see how you could not include him in this group also. For that reason I would not call McNabb or Romo elite either.

So can we throw Brad Johnson in?

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Originally posted by Sticky2:

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Originally posted by Dunder:

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Originally posted by Sticky2:
Who is elite?

If the condition is winning the big games then Eli is elite isn't he? Yet I would still rather have McNabb as my quarterback.

My own personal definition would be someone who wins big games but also wins consistently. Thus in my humble opinion the only 2 current "elite" QBs are Brady and Manning Sr., though if Manning Jr. can get the Giants into the playoffs again and win a game or 2 I don't see how you could not include him in this group also. For that reason I would not call McNabb or Romo elite either.

So can we throw Brad Johnson in?

Not anymore, but you can make a case for his career as a whole. (when I said Brady and Manning I meant who I'd currently consider "elite", obviously there are plenty of other guys in years past.

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Originally posted by Dunder:

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Originally posted by Sticky2:

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Originally posted by Dunder:

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Originally posted by Sticky2:
Who is elite?

If the condition is winning the big games then Eli is elite isn't he? Yet I would still rather have McNabb as my quarterback.

My own personal definition would be someone who wins big games but also wins consistently. Thus in my humble opinion the only 2 current "elite" QBs are Brady and Manning Sr., though if Manning Jr. can get the Giants into the playoffs again and win a game or 2 I don't see how you could not include him in this group also. For that reason I would not call McNabb or Romo elite either.

So can we throw Brad Johnson in?

Not anymore, but you can make a case for his career as a whole. (when I said Brady and Manning I meant who I'd currently consider "elite", obviously there are plenty of other guys in years past.

I understand why you chose who you did. I mentioned Johnson as he was fairly recent to remind everyone that you can win the big games but still never be considered an elite quarterback.

Naturally Johnson is much better than Trent Dilfer, but you get my point.

How about Favre? Elite or not? Definately elite ten years ago, but how about now?

Well we finally benched Tavaras Jackson today for 38 year old Gus Frerotte. I think Carolina will blitz the old man into retirement on sunday.

Hoping,really Hoping my Northern Illinois Huskies can get past Indiana State. I believe they are the team with the worst record in all college football in the last five years.

Lord have mercy. This is going to be a tough season,but what can I say, I love my school.

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Originally posted by Spiral:
Hoping,really Hoping my Northern Illinois Huskies can get past Indiana State. I believe they are the team with the worst record in all college football in the last five years.

Lord have mercy. This is going to be a tough season,but what can I say, I love my school.

Hey, this is an NFL thread, not small-time college football.

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Originally posted by indybob:
How about Favre? Elite or not? Definately elite ten years ago, but how about now?

Then - yes. Now - no.

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