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Originally posted by wine+art:
My beloved Sooners also schedule solid programs for non-conference under Stoops. He has played Oregon, Alabama, UCLA, South Florida, Miami, TCU, Washington, BYU and Cincinnati, and has Ohio State, Tennessee, Notre Dame and Florida State in the coming years.

I'm afraid Florida State does not qualify as a "solid program" at the moment. Good offense, but an absolutely atrocious defense this year. Hopefully we can get it turned around enough by the time we play to give you a game.

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Originally posted by Red guy in a blue state:
GD - I am not sure how getting one's ass kicked equates with cowardice? Of the top of my head, USC has scheduled the following non-conference opponents in the last several years (including yearly with Notre Dame): Ohio State, Nebraska, Virginia, Arkansas, BYU, Auburn, Virginia Tech and Fresno State. This, in addition to playing all teams in the Pac 10 each year. Year in and out, the Trojans play one of the tougher schedules in the country. I don't think that meets the definition of coward. Please explain.

They had to have been running away from the man with the ball to allow that kind of yardage.

ps: I really don’t think any SEC AD is a coward either. Tool for a tool. Capice?

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Originally posted by mpls wine guy:
Another freaky game from my beloved Hawkeyes. We lost our second starting running back for the year again. Five interceptions by Stanzi. We have Northwestern at home next week so we could be the most overated team but a win is a win. I'll take any I can get.

As of now Iowa's whole season will ride on the game next Saturday in Columbus. Beat Ohio State and you can coast to the National Championship game, but lose and you're looking at the Peach Bowl or some other 2nd tier bowl game.

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Originally posted by mpls wine guy:
Another freaky game from my beloved Hawkeyes. We lost our second starting running back for the year again. Five interceptions by Stanzi. We have Northwestern at home next week so we could be the most overated team but a win is a win. I'll take any I can get.

mpls - You need to give your team more credit. A Win is a Win and finding a way to win conference games week in and week out is no easy task regardless of the opponent. I think it's great. Think positive my friend.

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Originally posted by Dick Tree:

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Originally posted by mpls wine guy:
Another freaky game from my beloved Hawkeyes. We lost our second starting running back for the year again. Five interceptions by Stanzi. We have Northwestern at home next week so we could be the most overated team but a win is a win. I'll take any I can get.

As of now Iowa's whole season will ride on the game next Saturday in Columbus. Beat Ohio State and you can coast to the National Championship game, but lose and you're looking at the Peach Bowl or some other 2nd tier bowl game.

Iowa needs a Texas loss or they wont sniff the championship game. Uf and Bama should win out and play in the SEC championship to knock one of them out. If Texas wins out too then it will be Texas vs Bama/UF winner. Even Cincy could pose a problem if they win out.

I called the USC game in my earlier thread. They have no, as in zero, defense. It had been evident in the earlier games, Oregon just made a mockery of it. Oregon State score, what 35 points, against them. USC was just lucky that the Beaver's defense was less than their own.

That USC is still rated 12th in the polls is an example of the effect, big market schools, enjoy in the ratings. Having watched their performances the last several weeks, I'm not sure they belong in the top 20.

Congratulations to the Ducks. That was a very impressive win.

The Hawkeyes keep finding ways to win games, outscoring Indiana 28-0 in the 4th Quarter. However, I do think that having to come back repeatedly will be their undoing; perhaps this coming Saturday in Columbus.

My weekly musings:

First, I had to witness a heart breaking loss by Wake Forest to Miami after the Deacs totally outplayed the Canes. Give Miami credit as they did it when necessary. Wake has given three games away this season.

Despite another gimmick by Mark Richt, the Gators finally played a good game Saturday. They put the "spread" back in the spread offense by distributing the ball to several players. Tebow looked like Tebow again, and the defense created numerous turnovers in the second half. I do not know what it is, but Georgia has something missing. They have too many good athletes to have that bad a defense.

Texas is beginning to look like a sure thing for the BCS Title Game. They are a complete team despite the lack of a feature runner. It helps to have a great and experienced QB like Colt McCoy running the show.

Congrats to the Oregon Ducks for a dominating win over USC. Although not to the extent of Georgia, I am puzzled by the amount of yardage and points a Pete Carroll coached defense, with all those five star recruits, can give up. The Ducks are that team that no one wants to play at the moment. I am sure that they would like another shot at Boise State.

The Bama-LSU game should be interesting this weekend. LSU has finally found a stride on offense and will make this game interesting. Bama better find a way to pass the ball or the Bengal Tigers could steal one in Bryant-Denny Stadium this Saturday.

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Originally posted by scbeerman:
Despite another gimmick by Mark Richt, the Gators finally played a good game Saturday. They put the "spread" back in the spread offense by distributing the ball to several players. Tebow looked like Tebow again, and the defense created numerous turnovers in the second half. I do not know what it is, but Georgia has something missing.

Yeah, like maybe missing their eyesight from having a Gator try to gouge their eyes out in pile ons.

Shameful and criminal action. Spikes such be suspended for the rest of the season.

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Originally posted by GreenDrazi:

Yeah, like maybe missing their eyesight from having a Gator try to gouge their eyes out in pile ons.

Shameful and criminal action. Spikes such be suspended for the rest of the season.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...sPNo&feature=related

He's been suspended for a whole half against powerhouse Vandy. Way to go Urban.

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Originally posted by vinole:

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Originally posted by GreenDrazi:

Yeah, like maybe missing their eyesight from having a Gator try to gouge their eyes out in pile ons.

Shameful and criminal action. Spikes such be suspended for the rest of the season.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...sPNo&feature=related

He's been suspended for a whole half against powerhouse Vandy. Way to go Urban.

well..it was against GA!

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Originally posted by jburman82:

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Originally posted by Dick Tree:

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Originally posted by mpls wine guy:
Another freaky game from my beloved Hawkeyes. We lost our second starting running back for the year again. Five interceptions by Stanzi. We have Northwestern at home next week so we could be the most overated team but a win is a win. I'll take any I can get.

As of now Iowa's whole season will ride on the game next Saturday in Columbus. Beat Ohio State and you can coast to the National Championship game, but lose and you're looking at the Peach Bowl or some other 2nd tier bowl game.

Iowa needs a Texas loss or they wont sniff the championship game. Uf and Bama should win out and play in the SEC championship to knock one of them out. If Texas wins out too then it will be Texas vs Bama/UF winner. Even Cincy could pose a problem if they win out.

After giving it some thought I agree. Iowa needs help in the form of a Texas loss and maybe even a loss by Boise or TCU.

Don't be surprised if LSU bumps off Alabama this weekend though. Those Tigers have a way of throwing the SEC into chaos from time to time.

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Originally posted by GreenDrazi:
Shameful and criminal action. Spikes should be suspended for the rest of the season.

Agree!!!! There is no room in Gators football (or in football at any level!)for this kind of BS! This is an act by a "Thug"!

Nice win by Oregon. So now I'm confused why this doesn't put Boise State higher in the polls? Maybe Oregon wasn't the same team for that game, but then again, maybe they were.

As for Iowa, I agree they aren't a flashy team, and it still hard to believe they are worthy of a top 5 rating, but a win is a win. Contrast them with my Spartans--Iowa has trailed in the fourth quarter in (five?) games, but is still undefeated, while Michigan State has had a lead in the 4th quarter in 4 of their 5 losses, but couldn't hold on. To me, that says a lot for Iowa--they are doing what takes to win, and that is usually the difference between a good team and a great one.

I agree, Texas looks like a complete team, and of the top 4 teams, their schedule is probably the most favorable from here out. I would be surprised if they lose a game this year, and an undefeated Texas is guaranteed a spot in the title game.

Iowa's only chance is to win out, preferably in convincing fashion, and then to have Florida or Bama to lose one of their last 2 games before beating the other in the SEC title game. Even then, it will be controversial to keep the SEC champ out of the title game. But if the SEC champ has 1 loss, then I have a tough time seeing why they should get the nod over Oregon.

And then Cinci keeps on rolling.

I just hope there is a big mess at the end of the season, to demonstrate the need for a playoff, and definitely a playoff that involves more than just 4 teams. Right now, Texas, Florida, Alabama, Iowa, Cincinnati, Boise St., TCU, and Oregon have a legitimate right to think that they deserve a shot at the national title. And after the final few games, LSU, Penn State, and maybe even the ACC champ might be able to throw their name into consideration.

I agree that Spikes should be suspended for one or two games. However, it is the first incident that he has had in a Gator uniform, so to call him a thug is a bit much. Both Spikes and Tebow were victims of the same tactics by Georgia players (eye gouging) plus numerous late hits by the Dogs. As far as I can remember, this is the first hint of dirty play by the Gators under Meyer.

I understand the hate for UF. It is amplified when UF is winning at the level it is now. It was that way under Spurrier, and it will be that way under Meyer if the winning continues. No one hated Zook (except the Gator fans).

Iowa has no chance at the national title. I expect Texas, Florida or Alabama to go undefeated and a 1-loss team to get in.

No national championship for Iowa, Boise State, Cincinnati or TCU.

Mark it.

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Originally posted by scbeerman:
I agree that Spikes should be suspended for one or two games. However, it is the first incident that he has had in a Gator uniform, so to call him a thug is a bit much. Both Spikes and Tebow were victims of the same tactics by Georgia players (eye gouging) plus numerous late hits by the Dogs. As far as I can remember, this is the first hint of dirty play by the Gators under Meyer.

I understand the hate for UF. It is amplified when UF is winning at the level it is now. It was that way under Spurrier, and it will be that way under Meyer if the winning continues. No one hated Zook (except the Gator fans).

There is no excuse for his actions. Trying to defend/deflect what he did by blaming UGA players is a significant part of the problem.

And get over yourself - it’s not the least bit of hate for UF. It’s hate for what he did - plain and simple. Any team that’s ranked no. 1 will get more press coverage and attention. The Oregon player was suspension far greater for far less of an offense.

Agree with GD that it's the action that is resented and not the team he plays for. Also surprised Meyers went so light on the suspension (yes, I know Bowden has always been lenient, but that doesn't mean I agree with him). If you think I am biased (and probably am), here is an article that is very critical of Meyers and a poll with 90,000 responses that shows 11 out of 12 people think the suspension is too light.

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Originally posted by scbeerman:
I understand the hate for UF.

Nothing to do with this, I love Gators football! I don't care what team you're on and/or what level of football you're playing, this is unacceptable "THUG" behavior!

no offense but some of you act like nothing goes on in the pile of a football game

i can tell you from experience that what Spikes did, and worse, happens quite often at all levels. im not condoning what he did whatsoever, im just saying try and have some perspective

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Originally posted by kumazam:
no offense but some of you act like nothing goes on in the pile of a football game

i can tell you from experience that what Spikes did, and worse, happens quite often at all levels. im not condoning what he did whatsoever, im just saying try and have some perspective

I am fully aware of that. But when you get caught on nationwide TV in full HD glory and play for the #1 team in the country, the coach needs to make a much stronger statement than what Meyer did. Oregon earned respect when it happened to them, UF is earning contempt with their response.

Again, I agree that Spikes should sit for one to two games, and if he does it again, he should be dismissed from the team. The SEC office agreed with Meyer and did not increase the suspension.

I will take you at your word that you hate the action and not UF. However, the Spurrier years made us paranoid about being hated.

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Originally posted by scbeerman:
I will take you at your word that you hate the action and not UF. However, the Spurrier years made us paranoid about being hated.

My wife is a UF graduate so I have had to learn to be diplomatic in discussing UF football. Heck my dad (FSU grad) even roots for UF when they don't play us, and my sister (also FSU grad) goes to most UF home games and is married to a Bull Gator.

Speaking of Spurrier, since he left UF, I can tolerate him much better. I think of him like I do Bob Knight. There are a lot of things I don't like about him, but he can be a pretty funny and entertaining guy at times.

Vinole,

I totally understand the diplomacy angle when a spouse is involved.

I actually know Spurrier quite well, and he is a good guy in person. He is a tad quirky, but he can be hillareous. It is funny how brash young coaches gain some perspective when they age.

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Originally posted by vinole:

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Originally posted by scbeerman:
I will take you at your word that you hate the action and not UF. However, the Spurrier years made us paranoid about being hated.

My wife is a UF graduate so I have had to learn to be diplomatic in discussing UF football. Heck my dad (FSU grad) even roots for UF when they don't play us, and my sister (also FSU grad) goes to most UF home games and is married to a Bull Gator.

Speaking of Spurrier, since he left UF, I can tolerate him much better. I think of him like I do Bob Knight. There are a lot of things I don't like about him, but he can be a pretty funny and entertaining guy at times.

I can vouch for vinole being diplomatic toward Gators. Then again, I didn't know him when FSU last won a UF/FSU game.