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What a donkey...
______________________________________ I'm throwin' rocks tonight. Mark it, Dude. |
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My sentiments exactly. Wonder if Matt Williams will be called as a character witness.
 Wine is sure proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin |
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Barry "Bail" Bonds.
It has a certain ring to it. Now, they need to subpoena Selig and ask if he knew that players were juicing. __________________________ __________________________ "What is man, when you come to think upon him, but a minutely set, ingenious machine for turning, with infinite artfulness, the red wine of Shiraz into urine?" -Isak Dinesen |
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So what has Barry done now?
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Gotten himself indicted for lying about knowingly taking steroids.
Just one more sip. |
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He hit all those home runs against all those pitchers on steroids and HGH.
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What does that have to do with his indictment? |
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Technically speaking, didn't he just claim that all the pitchers were on steroids and HGH? __________________________ __________________________ "What is man, when you come to think upon him, but a minutely set, ingenious machine for turning, with infinite artfulness, the red wine of Shiraz into urine?" -Isak Dinesen |
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Bonds was indicted by a Federal Grand Jury in San Francisco today for perjury and obstruction of justice.
On a side note, Bonds' trainer, who was jailed for refusing to testify against Bonds, was released today (after 3 years i think) ______________________________________ I'm throwin' rocks tonight. Mark it, Dude. |
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Yes. Word is since the grand jury indicted and adjurned, they didn't need the witness anymore. A lot to see what will happen. Likely word is he will not cut a deal (based on his attorney's combative words) and will go to trial. If convicted, the legal heads on TV are seeing a Martha Stewart (don't lie to a grand jury message) type deal. 6 months - a year and probation. He's not being charged with using steroids. He's being charged that he lied to a grand jury. The baseball stuff is more open and interesting to me though. Hall of Fame will never happen if he's convicted. Forget it. Probably won't happen anyway. Home Run record: That will be gone too if convicted. Hank Aaron back on top!...soon. His other records? who knows? Will baseball just wipe his career from their memory banks? How do you even do that? What a headache for MLB Of course this is all totally inconsistant considering all of the other players putting up lofty numbers on this stuff for years and you can't go after all of them. If Bonds only hit 600 home runs and retired 5 years ago - this never would have happened and he probably would have skated free and into the hall of fame. Oh well. I'd still take his problems and his $100 million+ in the bank  - but what a waste... I want to hear him try to explain this stuff to his kids. |
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Oh and if his trial is in San Francisco - don't rule out an O.J. result!
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Mlb wanted all these steroid users to hit home runs to bring people back to the parks after the strike so I think it's shame on them as much as Bonds. If he wasn't such a big jerk I don't think people would make a big deal out of it. Anyway A rod is gonna sign for ten years and 275 million with the Yankees and end up with over 800 homers anyway.
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Been a gigantic ass to everyone. Juiced and then lied about it. Got his buddy thrown in the can for a year to save his skin. Oh, and I think he hit some homeruns or something. |
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This whole Barry Bonds thing has gone too far. I was one of those who wanted to see him crash and burn, but now I have completely changed where I stand on the issue. The hatred for Bonds is just too much for me to want to see this keep going. All I wanted originally was an asterik put next to his HRs.
Is Barry Bonds a threat to anyone on the road when he gets in his car like Lindsay Lohan or Paris Hilton are? Not even. What is sickening is rich above the law never had to work a day in their life Hollywood Celebs get away with almost anything. There is something wrong with our justice system. For those upset about lying under oath. Well, where is this same outrage in regards to politicians? Where are the indictments on them? They swear to uphold and protect our Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic, yet they no sooner take their hand off the Bible and they are out doing what they can to destroy our Constitutional rights and freedoms. That is lying under oath as well. Again, there is something wrong with our judicial system. I hope Bonds beats this, and can get on with a team that has a chance to win a World Series. I am sick of the witch hunt on Bonds. I will not even read the articles put up on the net or the paper and when it comes on TV, I will just turn the channel. Sick of it already. *********************** BOYCOTT TYSON CHICKEN!! |
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Ain't this country grand? If you sell arms to terrorists, launder the proceeds by flooding the American streets with cocaine, the use the profits to fund an illegal war, then lie under oath about it, well, Ollie North is a hero and Reagan is the best President ever and deified as second only to Jesus. In addition to Iran-Contra, they regularly paid off terrorist organizations to not attack U.S. interests, helping them build up to attack us later. Meanwhile, the unchallenged mythology about Reagan lead to the unrealistic mindset of our current Administration. |
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I'm thinking someone did not read the "terms of service" so here goes.
Now take your granola eating, birkenstock wearing, tree hugging hippie a$$ back to Haight-Ashbury and drop another hit for Jesus would you. pissing people off since 1971! 'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.' -Thomas Jefferson |
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I prefer "tofu-farting" as a descriptor.......
The nocal Bonds fans could watch a guy in a Balco jacket shoot up Barroid with beef roids in the on deck circle and still swear he's innocent...... -------------------- "One may dislike carrots, spinach, beetroot, or the skin on hot milk. But not wine. It is like hating the air that one breathes, since each is equally indispensable." Marcel Ayme` |
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How about the guy who buys season tickets or springs to bring his young son to see a few games? How does this get explained? Bond's is blessed with the skills, and has had a responsibility and a larger purpose to live up to.....what a shame.
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Barry is THE poster child for the steroid era of baseball. He is an easy target as he is wary of the people who report on the sport he plays as they are of the same ilk as the people who degraded his father. Would you make nice with people who degraded your father? One would need to look more into the history of how the media treated Bobby Bonds to get a better understanding of why Barry Bonds may not want to make nice with the media.
Canseco has said there were hundreds of players on steroids, HGH, or performance inhancing drugs. Baseball profited from this experiment tenfold after the strike of '94 and are now having to deal with the aftermath. There are many posters yet only one face on the poster. How many of you were cheering McGuire and Sosa in '98? Palmiero hitting number 500? Was Gagne juiced up when he got the scoreless innings record? Could Schilling have performed as well in the '04 LCS in game 6 against the Yankees without some pain killers? Where do you draw the line on what is performance enhancing? Many other opportunities to name and equally as many to have selective memory depending on your bias. How did one person become the scapegoat on this topic for a whole profession? Mortgage professionals causing families to lose their homes in the pursuit of profits and high wages will NOT have their names and pictures in the paper day after day. For those who are pulling for A-Rod, I think his head has gotten bigger since his first days with Seattle. Damn it, I have also gotten bigger since I was that age as well. And no, I have not taken any steroids without a doctor's prescription. As for the season ticket holders, this is a good opportunity to show your children what may happen when adults make the wrong decisions OR they are perceived to make the wrong decisions. Sport professionals are humans and as more are thrown into professional sports without a college education, there will be many more mistakes made. I am on the West Coast near San Francisco. I have gone to many games at what is now ATT Park as well as watching and listening on the radio, and following the Giants. From my experiences, people stop what they are doing to watch Barry. I recall the series in Yankee Stadium a few years ago with the fans booing Barry at every opportunity only to physically bow to him after his upper deck homer to right. Similar responses have been given in other visiting parks. Yes, he may not be innocent, but he may be not guilty. It would be sad that of recent celebrity perjury related cases, only a white man did not do prison time. Martha, Lil Kim, and Barry. Not Bill? If anyone wants to expunge the records of Bonds, will the records of ALL users be expunged? If so, please give the '89 World Series trophy to the San Francisco Giants instead of staying with Canseco, McGuire, and who knows how many other users on the roster of the Oakland A's. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Juicy, |
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That's hilarious. In case you're serious, historical fact of government officials breaking the law isn't politics. Of course, one can spin anything into politics if you like. Like Brie, Volvos, wine. (Guess which party consumes more of each of those...) Barry's sin is he was given immunity to testify, because politicians (oops!) are trying to clean up the steroid problem, and he chose to lie under oath. Maybe he thought telling the truth might jeopardize his career - like he was in a lose-lose situation and chose to gamble rather than surrender. Anyway, he sure made some people mad. To me, he's never come across as a rude person. He might be a bit guarded and private. Can't really feel sorry for him, but this is a bit reminiscent of a classic tragedy. |
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Lying under oath is lying under oath.
Doesn't matter if it's about steroids, B.J's or anything else some people here deem as "unimportant" a "witch hunt" or the "look what our Government is doing to us in other areas" B.S. (I love that one ). Hand on bible - tell the truth or risk getting prosecuted. He made his choice. |
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Wow, so the "Bush did it" crowd is out in force with this thread. So if our government leaders lie then it is okay for the rest of us? Man you really are a twisted "tofu-farting" (thanks for the quote GA) nimrod arn't you? pissing people off since 1971! 'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.' -Thomas Jefferson |
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This one is classic! Bonds takes steroids and lies about it and that is enough to knock certain posters off balance enough to go into their best rant re ChimpyMcBushhitler and America's complete loss of civil liberties...except for, you know, their free speech rights to post such drivel.
It would be comical if it wasn't so scary. Some people are way too tightly wound and clearly are ready to snap. The black helicopters are circling. |
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Talk about tightly wound... What are you talking about? I'm not excusing *anything*! I'm talking about the implications of lying under oath, and the trouble a dishonest perspective on history gets you into. The opposite of what you seem to think you read. Wow! Bush took the lead on the steroids issue. I think he knows full well how serious a problem it is, being a baseball insider. This is a solvable problem and Bonds stood in the way. It was very self-serving and now he's going to pay. Like I said, I don't feel sorry for him. What's funny is I bet a good number of his self-righteous declaimers would've made the same sort of choice in a similar circumstance. Sure, there's no defense for Clinton lying to cover up the fact the he's a filandering perv. But, the shear number of his most vocal Congressional critics who have been outed for being at least as cheaty and pervy is astounding. There should be a lesson or two there, but some people would rather keep their blinders on. |
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