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Well, if the Tampa Tribune is correct, it doesn't look like mpls will have to worry about seeing Farve in Purple. They seem to think a deal is pretty much done to bring Farve to Tampa and give us a 2nd 38 yr old QB.

I'm still waiting for Gruden to bring Rich Gannon out of retirement. Seriously..Farve is probably an upgrade from Garcia, and I just hope they don't have to give much up to get him for what likely will be 1 yr.
 
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Just traded to the J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets. Wow!
 
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JETS, huh. I'm sure Gary V. will be thrilled!


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Tampa seemed to make more sense to me. Going head to head with the Patriots? Good luck with that.
 
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At least I don't have to read anymore about the stupid quarterback situation at the jets.

J E T S JETS JETS JETS!
 
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At least I don't have to read anymore about the stupid quarterback situation at the jets.

J E T S JETS JETS JETS!


The Bucs obviously weren't willing to give a 3rd round choice that could reach a 1st rounder if Favre performs to a certain level. I'm glad they didn't give up a possible 1st rounder since he's only gonna play 1 maybe two years.

We already suffered through paying too much to Oakland to get Gruden and to the Jets for Keyshawn. We are already in a situation that has us with our biggest playmakers on Offense and Defense being mid 30's+. Can't afford losing key future draft picks.
 
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I hope this is now OVER WITH!
 
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The Jests are just prolonging their quarterback problems. The AFC East has some fantastic rivalries. The Phins/Jests games will be that much more interesting.

By the way, is it true that Jets fans are really Giants fans...who couldn't get tickets?!
 
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By the way, is it true that Jets fans are really Giants fans...who couldn't get tickets?!


Could be, but I always noticed from my time down in South Florida that Jets fans always seemed to have fewer teeth than Giants fans as well. Smile

After all..there are plenty of both living in Broward and Miami-Dade to gather a statistical sample!
 
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By the way, is it true that Jets fans are really Giants fans...who couldn't get tickets?!


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The Jets better hope they did not get the Favre of 2005 & 2006. Eek

His narcissism over what was best for the team had become insufferable.
 
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big talk from fans whose team went 1-15 =)
 
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Interesting take on Favre from Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (and as a Packers fan, I agree with a lot of this):

"From a purely football perspective, the organizational shift against Favre began that November night in Dallas, gained steam in the arctic cold of Soldier Field and became a blaze during Favre's pathetic second-half showing against the New York Giants with a Super Bowl there for the taking.

Just about everyone who counted in the football department reached the conclusion that Favre could never win another championship. His dismal playoff record in the past decade couldn't be overlooked. And the Packers concluded that it would be the mother of all mistakes if Aaron Rodgers got away without being properly evaluated as a starter.

Favre had one chance, and one chance only, to salvage his career in Green Bay. He had to commit wholeheartedly for another season by early March.

One could argue that the Packers erred by asking Favre for an answer that early. But having been hung out to dry by Favre too often in the past, they were in no mood for drama. Their days of mollycoddling were over.

The Packers would have taken back Favre as the starter, albeit reluctantly, if he had acted like any other player and not some diva. That is, show up for work in late March, practice until mid-June and be in exceptional condition by July 28.

That's never too much to expect.....

Shortly after the draft, Mike McCarthy basically told his players that he was in charge of this team, not Favre, and that it was critical to rally around Rodgers. Then Rodgers began inviting players to his home. To McCarthy, the off-season is absolutely crucial, and with his entire being he anointed Rodgers.

No matter what Favre might have tried after March 6, he couldn't have turned the tide.

When Favre made overtures in late March about a return, the Packers felt compelled to go meet with him even though in reality they had little or no interest.

In late June, when Favre phoned McCarthy to tell him he might play, the Packers probably were dying inside.

And then came the last month, with Favre formally asking for his release, finally submitting his letter for reinstatement and then flying to Green Bay on Sunday night.

The Packers blame themselves for making some communication gaffes along the way, which they did. They gave away their motives by announcing plans far too early to retire Favre's jersey and to send him his locker. Ted Thompson hid behind too many no-comments.

But when the endgame is to remove a legend, there is no smooth way of doing it.

Favre went on to risk his future as a heroic figure in the state for perpetuity by his actions last month. All but calling Thompson a liar. Revealing intimate details of conversations with Thompson and McCarthy. Selling out offensive line coach James Campen after he went out of his way to help his old pal.

During one interview, Favre criticized Thompson for not interviewing his buddy, Steve Mariucci, for the job that went to McCarthy. After the horrendous job that Mariucci did in Detroit, Thompson would have been roasted for even considering Mariucci, let alone hiring him.

Those were just a few examples of Favre operating almost in a delusional state, hearing only what he wanted to hear and acting as if he was larger than the team.

Some would say, in fact some are saying, that the Packers would be nothing and will be nothing without Favre.

Nevertheless, this was the proper time to determine if that's true by going with one of several young men over one old man. McCarthy's expertise is in quarterback play. His future, as well as Thompson's, will hinge on developing the three quarterbacks on the roster. Failing that, they must quickly find another one who can play.

Last winter, the Packers began talks with Favre about giving him at least $20 million over 10 years in exchange for shaking some hands and making a few appearances. How can a $20 million golden parachute be construed as bribery?

It was a creative step by the organization to present Favre with an honorable go-away present, but in the end became just another decision that poisoned Favre's attitude toward the club.

Against this wholly expected backdrop of ugliness, the Packers will try to get something for Favre in trade. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have been interested all along, but is Favre?

If Tampa Bay stays with Jeff Garcia, the Packers might well follow up on the feeler that they sent out Friday to the Minnesota Vikings.

As for Rodgers, he needs to shape up. After a promising first three days, he had relatively bad practices Friday, Saturday and Monday sandwiched around a subpar scrimmage Sunday.

Yes, it has been an untenable situation for Rodgers. OK, so what? Now it's time for Rodgers to start performing at the level that McCarthy keeps saying that he will. There's little else but McCarthy's track record to vouch for Rodgers at this point.

Speculation that the Packers might make it an open competition between Rodgers and Favre was a farce. The club floated that idea to promote trade value as well as to placate players, fans and coaches in the unlikely event that Favre got on the practice field.

If the job had been opened to Favre, it would have meant just one thing: McCarthy had lost faith in Rodgers after the first week.

The Packers, just like every other team in the NFC North, hope to win by rushing the ball and playing defense this season.

One week after the Giants loss, it was written here that Thompson's off-season agenda contained three major items: what to do about Favre, defensive coordinator Bob Sanders and the zone run game.

Green Bay made its preferred change on the first item, remaining status quo on the other two. Sanders and the run game had better be dynamic because the quarterbacking probably won't be nearly as good as it was in 2007, when an all-time great had a very good year.

The Packers went with the odds saying Favre never would play that well again. Now they need Rodgers to pull his weight for what has the makings almost everywhere else of being another top team."


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12 million for staying one year to play footbal even as a benchwarmer.. or 20 million over 10 years to shake hands.. I'd take the 12 million anyday =)..

Anyhow this is all speculation. If green bay goes 1-15 this year and the Jets make it to the play offs ... It's a huge gamble on green bay.
 
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12 million for staying one year to play footbal even as a benchwarmer.. or 20 million over 10 years to shake hands.. I'd take the 12 million anyday =)..

Anyhow this is all speculation. If green bay goes 1-15 this year and the Jets make it to the play offs ... It's a huge gamble on green bay.


I think the larger gamble is the Jets. A 38 year old hall of fame quarterback without a great offensive line is not likely to look like a hall of a fame quarterback.

The Jets had the 30th worst line in the NFL last season. Basically, bottom of the barrel. What in the hell makes anyone think suddenly they are contenders? Favre had a great Cinderella season last year, there is simply no way to top it or match it, especially in a new system with a tougher division.

The Packers overachieved but they will struggle with the pressure put on their new, inexperienced QB who has the biggest shoes in the NFL to fill.

It is a lose, lose situation for both teams and I think neither will make the playoffs. The bright spot for the Jets is some nice free agent signings and that an aging Favre is actually better than the QB's they had. That is not saying much though.
 
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big talk from fans whose team went 1-15 =)


Make that fan Smile My team lost to the Giants in the 1st round of the playoffs!
 
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Let's see, play for Green Bay (wouldn't have him another year) where you have a line that allowed the second fewest sacks last year or play for the Jets that allowed 53 sacks last year.

This greedy sack better hope his arse never gets off that bench. He'll never have the chance to spend that money.


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It will be interesting to see how the Jets fans react to Farve if they start badly and he doesn't play very well. They were 4 and 12 last year I believe. Their GM seems to think they made all the right moves in the draft and the offseason free agency signings and Farve will be the icing on the cake. I live 30 miles from the Wisconsin border and it's funny to hear all the beer and paint thinner drinking packer fans go on about how Farve is washed up and Aaron Rodgers is the second coming. It will be an interesting year. Now the league has to find a way to get the Farve show on sunday or monday night football for ratings.
 
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It will be interesting to see how the Jets fans react to FAVRE if they start badly and he doesn't play very well. They were 4 and 12 last year I believe. Their GM seems to think they made all the right moves in the draft and the offseason free agency signings and FAVRE will be the icing on the cake. I live 30 miles from the Wisconsin border and it's funny to hear all the beer and paint thinner drinking packer fans go on about how FAVRE is washed up and Aaron Rodgers is the second coming. It will be an interesting year. Now the league has to find a way to get the FAVRE show on sunday or monday night football for ratings.
 
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It will be interesting to see how the Jets fans react to FAVRE if they start badly and he doesn't play very well. They were 4 and 12 last year I believe. Their GM seems to think they made all the right moves in the draft and the offseason free agency signings and FAVRE will be the icing on the cake. I live 30 miles from the Wisconsin border and it's funny to hear all the beer and paint thinner drinking packer fans go on about how FAVRE is washed up and Aaron Rodgers is the second coming. It will be an interesting year. Now the league has to find a way to get the FAVRE show on sunday or monday night football for ratings.


Why so harsh W+A??? After all this is the way you say it right, "Farrrrrrve?"

Right, Maples Wine Guy? Wink


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It will be interesting to see how the Jets fans react to FAVRE if they start badly and he doesn't play very well. They were 4 and 12 last year I believe. Their GM seems to think they made all the right moves in the draft and the offseason free agency signings and FAVRE will be the icing on the cake. I live 30 miles from the Wisconsin border and it's funny to hear all the beer and paint thinner drinking packer fans go on about how FAVRE is washed up and Aaron Rodgers is the second coming. It will be an interesting year. Now the league has to find a way to get the FAVRE show on sunday or monday night football for ratings.


Why so harsh W+A??? After all this is the way you say it right, "Farrrrrrve?"

Right, Maples Wine Guy? Wink


You would think after 4 pages, one might pick up on it. Wink
 
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12 million for staying one year to play footbal even as a benchwarmer.. or 20 million over 10 years to shake hands.. I'd take the 12 million anyday =)..

Anyhow this is all speculation. If green bay goes 1-15 this year and the Jets make it to the play offs ... It's a huge gamble on green bay.



The Jets had the 30th worst line in the NFL last season. Basically, bottom of the barrel. What in the hell makes anyone think suddenly they are contenders?


ummm the 50 mm spent on alan faneca to start? how bout the upgrade with damien woody?
how bout the beefed up defensive line in kris jenkins? Vernon Gholston??

the AFC is weak, what makes you think htey won't be contenderS?
 
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You would think after 4 pages, one might pick up on it. Wink


True that, true that!


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the AFC is weak,


Huh??? Confused


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the AFC is weak,


Huh??? Confused


yea i mispoke ... nfc is weak =P.

after Indy, Pittsburgh, New England and San Diego..
tho, the rest of pack is a fairly good competition for the wild card spots.
 
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