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I thought, perhaps incorrectly, that in California if you, as a business, took money for payment of an item, that you had to ship the item within 3 business days? Is that incorrect? Or is there special rules around wine purchases?

The reason I ask is that I recently ordered some wine, that will ship in a few months, but my cc was already popped for the full amount.

Any thoughts on this?

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This happens all the time with wine, especially "futures", or with wine that is expected to be received by the retailer in the near future. Just look at Premier Cru...

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Look at it this way; you order an item an expect to get it if it's in stock.
A customer walks into the store and wants the same item but I have none left. Well who gets it?

The bottom line is simple. If you're not ready to pay don't (order) expect the merchant to sit on it if they have other opportunities to sale it.

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I can see perhaps a futures order, whereby you know you are buying a wine that has not yet been released, and probably given the chance to cancel the order for a refund upon availability. But paying for something, thinking it would be available right away, only to be told it will be some indeterminate amount of time before I can receive the product, seems out of line. Sure, hold the amount on my card, like rental car companies do. In my case, it was not evident that the product would not ship until AFTER payment was made.
 
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There is no retail front to the company I ordered from.

Somewhat related, I ordered an electronic device recently from a company. It was backordered for a couple of weeks. When it came into inventory, my card was charged and product shipped. Seems reasonable. They had my order, and my (digital) signature that the order was valid, so they could ship at the future date without having to re-verify the sale. Why would wine be different (excluding futures orders)?

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Originally posted by Ron51:
Look at it this way; you order an item an expect to get it if it's in stock.
A customer walks into the store and wants the same item but I have none left. Well who gets it?

The bottom line is simple. If you're not ready to pay don't (order) expect the merchant to sit on it if they have other opportunities to sale it.

Just Business
 
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It's a balancing act; we're talking about the capital cost of money and in these present times you'll run into it again.

Canceling orders are not that easy. Retailers often get better deals based on quantity to help cut the shipping and/or product price. If a few people bails out after the order has been placed with the distributor that often puts the retailer on the spot; investing in inventory they may not be able to afford.

They should have told you if they had to order it if they didn't have it.

Know for sure, if they don't do you right it will cost them.


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How the retailer balances their orders and incoming and outgoing costs really is not my concern.

I guess what I am asking, specifically, in California, is there a law that *requires* a retailer to ship within 72 hours of charging a cc? I thought there was.

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Originally posted by Ron51:
It's a balancing act; we're talking about the capital cost of money and in these present times you'll run into it again.

Canceling orders are not that easy. Retailers often get better deals based on quantity to help cut the shipping and/or product price. If a few people bails out after the order has been placed with the distributor that often puts the retailer on the spot; investing in inventory they may not be able to afford.

They should have told you if they had to order it if they didn't have it.

Know for sure, if they don't do you right it will cost them.
 
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Nope; we're a lawless state. It may not be your concern how they balance there books but it's there concern. If you're ordering from them it's in your best interest to know how the competition works.

California has the worst credit rating of all 50 states yet spend more than all others on a consumer level. We, as retailers will always take the quickest path to the bank; just business. Besides the shipping part sucks no one in there right mind whats to box and ship if they don't have to.


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Thanks for the replies, Ron. I guess some retailers extend that delay in charging as a courtesy.

I'm fine waiting, just wish it'd been more clear up front.

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