Looking to sell this wine. Any thoughts

Bascat,
Depending on the fill, capsule, label and storage, it could be worth nothing, or a small ransom. If you attach some digital photos and describe how this was acquired and stored, you might get some answers.

Completely full, capsule in good condition, Label in excellent condition, stored in my grandfathers wine cellar, I won't be able to ask any details unfortunately. I'll take some pictures of it and post.

Thanks

thanks

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Bascat-

Welcome to the boards.

Sorry if this offends you, but this sounds suspiciously like a scam.

The only marketplace for a wine like this is through a professional auction house. On the other hand if there's some fool here who wants to buy this from you then more power to you, but I can tell you that you wouldn't find me buying a bottle of ancient wine from a new member who noone knows. (not that I would ever buy a bottle of 1918 anything from anyone)

Also the next time you try to sell a wine as old as 1918 I would suggest you not describe it as "completely full". The last time that wine should have been completely full would have been during the great depression. After that ullage is expected.

grossie, I think you are wrong. I'll pay $9.99 for it.

Doesn't offend me always love someone that start their sentences out with "sorry if this offends you" if you so sorry why would you say it. DA Yes I'm new thanks for being so help full. Someone suggested this web site. I see you must be one of the complainers that all message board have.

Bascat,

It is just that there have been a lot of one time posters with a "One of a kind, very rare wine that was just found..." They never pan out and post of them are a scam.

This site might give you a better idea of what the value of your wine might be.

http://www.finestwine.com/en/wine-search.php?appellation=Pauillac

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I see you must be one of the complainers that all message board have.

No. That's my job.....

So what other gems were in grandpa's cellar, pray tell? Or was this puppy sitting down there all alone?

PH

Unfortunately, it is not worth as much as you might think. Any serious collector will know that the wine is no longer drinkable. The value is stictly in its rarety. You may find a wine merchant willing to take it on consignment, so they can find an idiot with lots of money. Good luck.

Post it on Ebay. You'll see what it's worth when the auction is over. I'm sure someone would scoop it up for a decent price, just because of the age and rarity.

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Originally posted by Bascat:
Doesn't offend me always love someone that start their sentences out with "sorry if this offends you" if you so sorry why would you say it. DA Yes I'm new thanks for being so help full. Someone suggested this web site. I see you must be one of the complainers that all message board have.

Yup, that's me! I guess it did offend you though. Now go away before I taunt you some more.

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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
So what other gems were in grandpa's cellar, pray tell? Or was this puppy sitting down there all alone?

PH

From the years I spent buying collectibles this is a sure indicator of a scam. Rare items that have a story/provance with no other similiar items are highly suspect. "My grandfather saved this one baseball card", just never happens. If someone saves things, there's normally at least a little collection of them.

Second is the rarity, markatablity of the items 'found'. "My grandfater just saved this Honus Wagner card and this Eddie Plank card", also never happens. Great Grampa might have had both, but where's the 'commans' he didn't know would be so valuable some day.

This isn't directly aimed at the poster, other than his rudness to a longstanding highly thought of member in grossie, I have no reason to doubt him. But, before anyone considers buying this bottle or any old bottle they should hear the whole story, how gramps ended up with it, what other bottles there are, and why he kept just this one. The whole story has to sing.

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Originally posted by seanr7:
Bascat,

It is just that there have been a lot of one time posters with a "One of a kind, very rare wine that was just found..." They never pan out and post of them are a scam.

Say it ain't so!!!!

PH

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Originally posted by tlily:

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...a longstanding highly thought of member in grossie...

Sorry, but that does not sound like the grossie I know.

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Originally posted by Bascat:
Doesn't offend me always love someone that start their sentences out with "sorry if this offends you" if you so sorry why would you say it.

Because somebody had to. What he says is entirely true. You may well be 100% legit, but under the circumstances the onus is upon you to prove it.

Damn, I'm in the market for a 1918 Latour, not the Lafite.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, tlily, and Haggis too!

W&A- wasn't that your birth year?

I just wanted to know what the bottle was worth. I thought maybe I'd sell it if anyone was interested. I'm no scam... sorry if you think that. Yes there were other bottles mainly scotch, other old wine's not worth mentioning. Wish I had the story of the wine.
Some old bottles of Champagne. I'll do my research elsewhere. Just thought that WS message board would be helpful. Not the best 1st impression. I hang out for a while and see.

Hey Bascat,

Just between you and me, your first impression of us might have just been slightly colored by our first impression of you. Lighten up a little bit.

There are 3 retail listings for this wine on WineSearcher.com. $1,299 - -$2,495 - and $2,999. I can assure you that these folks all have "the story" of their bottles. Without a story (provenance) the bottle could be virtually worthless. Follow someone's advice here and contact an auction house and see if they are interested in handling the sale for you. If not, their advice will probably be valuable to you in any event.

Fwiw, this wine was tasted twice recently by Editors of Wine Spectator, and received scores of 80 in 1991 and 79 in 1988 indicating that even a bottle with good provenance is past it's prime.

PH

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Originally posted by Bascat:
Yes there were other bottles mainly scotch, other old wine's not worth mentioning. Wish I had the story of the wine.

You have part of the "story" - how you got it and where it was stored. Assuming your grandfather purchased it from new, what is his wine cellar like? A full list of his collection, photographs etc. would help. What wines did he collect? If it's the only wine of that age it gets suspicious - why wasn't it opened? Was the year 1918 significant? The chances are that if he wasn't a serious wine collector then it was kept for sentimental reasons, and wines kept for sentimental reasons are unlikely to have been stored correctly for 90 years.

BTW: If the scotch hasn't been opened it could be worth something; if it has then it's probably still fine but there's no guarantee what's in it.

Do try to hang around Bascat. The community is actually quite good. As you've experienced most of the frequent posters are more concerned with posting why or why not they will answer a question rather than just answering the question. Why they choose to focus on if your post was legitimate or not, rather than just answering the question, I'm not sure.

But as you can see, Purple Haze was nice enough to offer you some useful figures, and obviously as you have picked up, some of the issues that come along with trying to market a rare bottle.

Hope it helped and stick around, you may end up enjoying it. I know I do.

"Variable including two bad bottles. At best, medium light, very mature colour; rich, spicy old nose (needs time to clear); dried out a little, lightish but lovely flavour, variable end acidity. Tasted 1969-May, 1977. Up to **"

Michael Broadbent