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Originally posted by Sticky2:
Is the stuff really that good?

Guess I better get on the wait list..

It's very nice juice, but the bottles suck ass. There's wine that's just as good for the same price or less in bottles that don't suck; try Loring for example.

However if you're into buying to flip for a profit it's typically been very good indeed.

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Originally posted by Sandy Fitzgerald:
Indybob;

The wine has its lovers and haters. There seems to be very little middle ground. Those loving it are zealots. Those of us that don't, really really dislike the style.

I disagree. Most of the people that I drink with now enjoy it for what it is - as a guilty pleasure. I haven't had one knock my socks off in a long time, but that could be my tastes changing.

I'll gladly drink what I still have (less than a case left, I think), but will not buy any more.

Hey, all u winers quit whining. Wait for their next email and you will get a wish list. I'll bet you will then see you ARE getting some of them. Happened to me last yr as the economy is still causing many to cut back on their orders. Last yr was my first for the singles, this yr I actually am going to be "guaranteed" an allotment. Finally.

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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
Not to worry, Ron. The secondary market won't be driving up the price - just helping folks to keep their place in line.

Not sure I agree. There are more posters here that aren't getting offers than those who are. So there is certainly demand. Add to that the fact that these wines got outrageous scores from WS and the Pinot Report, and I'd say that there is a secondary market for these wines for sure. Restaurants could easily sell these for $200+, so wine directors should be scouring the boards to buy up as much as they can for around $100-$125 per bottle.Certainly not like the good old days. But a profit of around $25 per bottle shouldn't be too hard to come by.

Jimmy, keep in mind the cost after shipping and tax is closer to $90 a bottle. Not exactly a great return if you're selling at $100.

$72 + 6% tax + $7 per bottle shipping is under $82.50. If one can get around $110-$125 per bottle, that wouldn't be terrible. For those with 60 bottle allocations, selling half of them at $120 will net $1,100 and drive the per bottle cost of the bottles kept down to about $45. Not bad.

There are zero bottles of 2006 KB SVDs available at or below mailer price. $85-$125 seems to be about the market. No reason to think that the 2007 vintage won't nudge this up a tic.

[/QUOTE]It's very nice juice, but the bottles suck ass. There's wine that's just as good for the same price or less in bottles that don't suck; try Loring for example. [/QUOTE]

Although I love the full throttle pinot from both of these producers, I don't know if I would do a direct comparison with the two...although I can think of one or two from each that are similar. Never really thought of it, but I think this will be a fun test in the future. Love them both! -mJ

Besides doing well for themselves through wine sales, the sale of their winery will take care of them quite nicely.

I have a guaranteed allocation, but I won't know what it is until Oct 5th. I will be buying all, but probably keeping (again) only the RR / SC vineyards and selling at cost the Santa Lucia appellation wines.

Tanglenet- please keep us in mind for any Gary's. Also have Chasseur to trade if you are interested.
Happy and Mr Happy

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Originally posted by Happy CSW:
Tanglenet- please keep us in mind for any Gary's. Also have Chasseur to trade if you are interested.
Happy and Mr Happy

Done! A good excuse to get together!

Eat your hearts out, KB Lovers...

woah

This will be my 3rd year getting an allocation. I was offered a very small number of single vineyard wines from last year, and will be selling off around half my allocation for the regular bottlings (SC and RRV) when I find out exactly what it is. Will likely post in the Buying and Selling section at that time.

As for the style, I've found that it ranges significantly from year to year. I wouldn't compare it to a Loring--but then again Loring produces a wide range of wines, with fruit ranging from light and candied to deep and dark. The Kosta Browne I've had has incredible depth, dark fruit and considerable nuance, with cola, herb and mushroom.

The appellation and SVD lists are most certainly separate. I passed on the RR and SC last Spring and am still being offered the SVD's this Fall. I've been on both lists for a few years. I don't plan on buying any unless the shipping costs are low enough for a bottle or two. If anyone in MN or Western Wisconsin wants any...(I'm sorry, but I don't ship).