WHy isn't Spectator suing over this incident? Sure he can claim journalistic public interest was what motivated him but given the misleading information given to you, that would constitute fraud!
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Posts: 3389 | Location: montreal | Registered: Feb 21, 2004
Originally posted by Seaquam: ...I can't believe that I'm going to post to this almost-absurd thread... I have no horse in this race... ...all that crap has muddied the information so much... And that is my 2¢ worth.
Yes, and it's only worth 2¢. But for someone who has no horse in this race, you seemed to manage to get at least eight paragraphs full of crap that has added to this muddied almost-absurb thread that you speak of. Cheers!
Uh oh, another PWI incident. Can anybody interpret it? Please, only interpretations from REAL members, if possible.
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Posts: 931 | Location: East BF, Egypt | Registered: May 15, 2002
YES. You're looking for "15 minutes of fame". You're getting a lot more than 15 minutes, but it's what you want. I'm not anonymous. My name is Samuel Maverick, just like the cowboy of TV/movie fame. I don't have a blog though. YES, I told you politely to STFU. Stop This Flagrant Un-civility. How is that any different from you calling me a troll? Also, if you're "not going to respond to me directly", then why do you keep responding to me directly? I guess this is "impacting you in the slightest" just a bit. YES. Your posts scream of entitlement with your responses to the editors, your non-acceptance of their answers, and your general attitude. Plus your claim for the need of "one on one discussion" with a "PR contact". Elitist entitlement. You're doing this to keep your name on the current page of this thread, hoping to gain hits on your blog. YES. I am clever in my "pronouncements". You can't get past what I say because you are you. I'm sorry for that. YES. I'm absolutely sure that's what I'm saying. Are you sure of what you're saying?
The rest of the 1-time posters are mostly gone. Some new ones have popped up since. I haven't treated anyone else like I have you because they were all here for their 1-time shot of negativity, and now they're gone. You, like I said before, just keep extending your exposure, trying to support your elitist entitled "brand" as a certified, blogging wine expert (with lots of "driving forces"). You have no interest in the awards. You have interest in calling out WS for what has happened.
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Originally posted by Seaquam: ...I can't believe that I'm going to post to this almost-absurd thread... I have no horse in this race... ...all that crap has muddied the information so much... And that is my 2¢ worth.
Yes, and it's only worth 2¢. But for someone who has no horse in this race, you seemed to manage to get at least eight paragraphs full of crap that has added to this muddied almost-absurb thread that you speak of. Cheers!
Hey, I never pretended that what I wrote was any better than anything else posted to this thread.
Nor did I claim to write any "facts."
And that's a fact.
Posts: 6489 | Location: Vancouver, BC | Registered: Oct 17, 2001
Ahh, my faith in humanity has been restored. You see I have always felt that the majority of the world’s population is made up of complete morons. It is so nice to have my view confirmed every now and then. I can’t begin to describe my joy in seeing so many people publicly humiliate themselves with their posts here. A special “densest of the dense award” should go to Machine. Way to join in with an attack based upon a completely erroneous view, and then keep repeating it. And thank you to all those with one post which showed all anyone needed to know about your ability to reason. Again, thank you all that have helped to once again make me realize how lucky I was to be born with a fully functioning brain.
Remember to always aim high, that way you won't get any on your shoes.
Originally posted by Seaquam: Hey, I never pretended that what I wrote was any better than anything else posted to this thread.
Nor did I claim to write any "facts."
And that's a fact.
And I never "pretended" that what I wrote was any better... You may not have claimed to write any "facts" but you are basing your opinions on the facts that you know of at this time. I didn't do anything different, but with one exception - -
The difference? I reported my opinions and the facts that I have at this time on my blog and you chose to post yours on this forum.
I am of the impression that one cannot trace that information if one is not the blog owner/admin with access to the identifying info of each poster (ip, whois, etc)
You are responding to: "Can't the WS web guru trace these people to see if any are him and if any are posting under multiple names?"
Posts: 1129 | Location: Mountain View, CA | Registered: Oct 18, 2001
Originally posted by inciter: I have read each reply, and made note and completed a database d/l to prove that somthing is off with all these replies.
The time to post of each message it to unrealistic, It seems someone not a true members posted all these replies, A simple look at the times posted will give a clear views as to the ligitimate reason. Just to make it look like members are mad... Interesting, I will keep this thread and post times for future use.
PS: Next time Wait a bit longer till you post your next fake reply.. Your BUSTED again..
You seem to be not only wrong but fairly illiterate. Kind of common with the new drive-by hack posters.
Unlike you, many of us are part of this community. The people telling you to sod off are probably all genuine "members" of this forum. We just have lots of time on our hands....
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Posts: 6948 | Location: The Left Coast | Registered: Dec 01, 2001
I’m curious. What exactly are the qualifications needed to have a blog? I always assumed it was access to a computer and a couple of acquaintances that will claim to care about the drivel you write. Are there anything more than those? No I don’t think so. That being so nobody cares if any blogger is insulted as you are completely without worth. As cdr's sig used to say blogs are free and worth the price.
Remember to always aim high, that way you won't get any on your shoes.
Originally posted by VT2IT: I’m curious. What exactly are the qualifications needed to have a blog? I always assumed it was access to a computer and a couple of acquaintances that will claim to care about the drivel you write. Are there anything more than those? No I don’t think so. That being so nobody cares if any blogger is insulted as you are completely without worth. As cdr's sig used to say blogs are free and worth the price.
And the difference between a blogger's so-called drivel and your drivel is that the majority of the bloggers, especially wine bloggers, do not hide behind convenient anonymity such as yourself. Sure, it's easy for you to spout off such "drivel" because you are an anonymous coward that won't take responsibility for your words.
So therefore, I think your comments are basically worthless. If you don't like what I have posted regarding your poltroon anonymity, at least you are welcome to send me an email, which you will find available on my blog if you want to discuss the topic of "blogger drivel" any further. That is certainly more integrity than you have given to this discussion.
Like Seaquam, I can't believe this has turned into what it has. Frankly, it appear these blogger "post and run" types are only trying to incite to enhance their "linking" ability. I always find bloggers a great source of humor. Not really as an authoritarian source, but one that tries (like in this case) to find ways to throw stones and hold everybody else to a much higher standard than they hold themselves.
Hell, no different than the typical politician...they are good at playing the blame game while not understanding their own inadequacies.
I used to thing that the National Enquirer was the biggest source of gossip...then they actually broke some "real" stories...now bloggers have taken gossip and innuendo to a new level.
For me, bloggers are "stupid" until proved otherwise...cause since we aren't in judicial system, I don't need to think otherwise.
YES. You're looking for "15 minutes of fame". You're getting a lot more than 15 minutes, but it's what you want. I'm not anonymous. My name is Samuel Maverick, just like the cowboy of TV/movie fame. I don't have a blog though. YES, I told you politely to STFU. Stop This Flagrant Un-civility. How is that any different from you calling me a troll? Also, if you're "not going to respond to me directly", then why do you keep responding to me directly? I guess this is "impacting you in the slightest" just a bit. YES. Your posts scream of entitlement with your responses to the editors, your non-acceptance of their answers, and your general attitude. Plus your claim for the need of "one on one discussion" with a "PR contact". Elitist entitlement. You're doing this to keep your name on the current page of this thread, hoping to gain hits on your blog. YES. I am clever in my "pronouncements". You can't get past what I say because you are you. I'm sorry for that. YES. I'm absolutely sure that's what I'm saying. Are you sure of what you're saying?
The rest of the 1-time posters are mostly gone. Some new ones have popped up since. I haven't treated anyone else like I have you because they were all here for their 1-time shot of negativity, and now they're gone. You, like I said before, just keep extending your exposure, trying to support your elitist entitled "brand" as a certified, blogging wine expert (with lots of "driving forces"). You have no interest in the awards. You have interest in calling out WS for what has happened.
No, Sammy.
You're simply wrong, disturbingly so.
I've stated a few times in this thread that I am looking for the WS editors to detail what aspects of the awards process they might re-examine. They said they'd offer tat up at a later time. The rest of the time, I've been trying to convince the trolls why I'm here (yourself included).
That's it. End of story. You can think whatever you like, there's nothing else to this.
You're continuing to post because you're a bully who needs an outlet.
And I am continuing to post to call you out on it, in a vain attempt to get you to back off.
And neither of us is adding anything productive to this thread at this point.
If that was your intention, then well done. You've added a total distraction to an already overburdened thread.
You may think that you're in the public eye a part of this forum, but that's not true. You may decry blogging in general, but I think it takes a courage that you lack to put yourself on the line publicly almost every day.
If you're intention is to angrily run me off of the forum, you can't possibly succeed (sorry). I'm adding you to my blocked list (your future posts will be falling on deaf ears) and I'm getting off this particular post so I can explain on my blog why no one in the right mind would consider posting in this hostile environment when they allow folks like you to troll about like it's their personal snake-pit.
I'll be around somewhere on these forums. But not for you.
You want to continue any of your "discussions" with me, look me up on twitter, or my blog, or the OWC.
After following this since day one, I'm very surprised that the WS editors have let this thread devolve to the current state. The discourse for the past dozen pages is at the very best, an extremely poor example of both fly-by and veteran contributions to a pissing contest.
A wise move would be to shut it down and not give these personalites a podium to continually debase the integrity and value that I would hope the WS editors attempt to maintain in their online forums.
1winedude, Unfortunately, we have been trying to have a thoughtful discussion with WS management, but it's been difficult with members who prefer not to keep to the matter at hand and instead use name-calling to slam wine bloggers while doing it anonymously.
And James Molesworth says that bloggers are a lazy person's journalism? These anonymous spewing name-calling members of this board are the epitome. hahaha!
Originally posted by VT2IT: I’m curious. What exactly are the qualifications needed to have a blog? I always assumed it was access to a computer and a couple of acquaintances that will claim to care about the drivel you write. Are there anything more than those? No I don’t think so. That being so nobody cares if any blogger is insulted as you are completely without worth. As cdr's sig used to say blogs are free and worth the price.
And the difference between a blogger's so-called drivel and your drivel is that the majority of the bloggers, especially wine bloggers, do not hide behind convenient anonymity such as yourself. Sure, it's easy for you to spout off such "drivel" because you are an anonymous coward that won't take responsibility for your words.
So therefore, I think your comments are basically worthless. If you don't like what I have posted regarding your poltroon anonymity, at least you are welcome to send me an email, which you will find available on my blog if you want to discuss the topic of "blogger drivel" any further. That is certainly more integrity than you have given to this discussion.
Kindly explain how anonymity has any relevance to credibility, or why anybody should give a damn what you think.
Remember to always aim high, that way you won't get any on your shoes.
Originally posted by Walla2WineWoman: 1winedude, Unfortunately, we have been trying to have a thoughtful discussion with WS management, but it's been difficult with members who prefer not to keep to the matter at hand and instead use name-calling to slam wine bloggers while doing it anonymously.
And James Molesworth says that bloggers are a lazy person's journalism? These anonymous spewing name-calling members of this board are the epitome. hahaha!
No nimwit, we do not purport to calling ourselves journalists just because we have internet access.
Remember to always aim high, that way you won't get any on your shoes.
Originally posted by VT2IT: Kindly explain how anonymity has any relevance to credibility, or why anybody should give a damn what you think.
You're kidding right, about relevance and credibility? Do you not get out much? Do you read many editorials? Is your knowledge of current events stuck in this forum? Free speech is not anonymous speech.
And why anybody should give a damn what I think? Well, whether you agree with me or not, obviously you gave a damn about what I thought or you would have never responded to a word I had to say.
Be gone with you and enjoy your fourth glass of Two Buck Chuck!
Now let me get this straight. If I do a little research and find out the name of some blogger that means that I must believe all that they write? It's good to see that yet another one has joined the list of idiots with no sense of reason.
Remember to always aim high, that way you won't get any on your shoes.
Originally posted by VT2IT: Again, thank you all that have helped to once again make me realize how lucky I was to be born with a fully functioning brain.
Posts: 2210 | Location: OC, CA (Currently in London) | Registered: Aug 01, 2007
thank you - for proving my point! I knew you would come through for me.
...and you call me an idiot with no sense of reason? Let's try this again.
It's so easy for you to call people names and make idiotic comments because you are anonymous. Let's see you stand behind your same words using your real name and email. You can't - you're a coward.
And this exercise has reminded me why I don't post here very often. Give me some form of human intelligence that isn't of the mindset of characters from the movie Deliverance! Please Wine Spectator management, you deserve better!
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It's good to see that yet another one has joined the list of idiots with no sense of reason.
