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 ordered a case of some cheapie gamey, 90 WS and at $7.99 it was hard to pass up. 1st bottle, heavily corked. 2nd bottle, "normally" corked. 3rd bottle, slightly corked. 4th bottle, heavily corked. #5 was not corked, but did not live up the WS "description"...it could just be "bottle variation"...  why are we EVEN concerning ourselves with this issue?  ----------------------------- "religion ='s thought disorder" - sigmund freud |
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Sorry for your experience, TBird, but chalk it up to 'lesson learned'.
Been there, done that, a long time ago.  |
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please tell me, what is my lesson?
 i hate corks? i knew that one already... 
----------------------------- "religion ='s thought disorder" - sigmund freud |
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BUY ONE BOTTLE AND TASTE, before you commit to a case buy, to see if you yourself agree with the taster's ratings.
The 'case of corks'? Well, that's just some bad luck, period. |
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sorry, but my rant is on the corks, not the review. how would i know yet? i'm 1 for 5. ouch......
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Never waste money on Gamey is the only lesson I see here.  |
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lol! i blame gregt!
----------------------------- "religion ='s thought disorder" - sigmund freud |
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Speaking of gamey wines, I had a similar experience with a cheap, highly rated wine infected with Brett. I only bought one bottle to try first, though. I have learned my lesson.
BTW, has WS ever rated a Gamay 90 points? |
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how did you learn a lesson when you only bought one?
2005 Georges Dubœuf Fleurie Domaine des Quatre Vents WS 90pts This Fleurie shows a deep, intense crimson red color. A sumptuous array of floral and fruit fragrances flatter the senses: irises, violets, roses, black currant, strawberry, peach and raspberry. AND The 2005 Fleurie Domaine des Quatre Vents is outstanding. Its explosive nose reveals roses, violets, red cherries, and dark berries. Broad and fleshy, it is silky-textured, medium to full-bodied, and packed with dark fruits as well as spices. 91 points. -The Wine Advocate the cool thing here is, the retailer has acknowledged a "problem" with this purchase and will refund all said problems when i drink thru the case. which at this pop, pour and dump stage, should be in about 20 minutes. good job, WOODLAND HILLS WINE COMPANY!
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My lesson, learned before, is that if one bottle of a wine is Brett influenced, probably all of them are to some degree.
Or, at least I'm not I'm not going to risk more of the same. Now I'm tempted to find a 2005 Fleurie Domaine des Quatre Vents to try. |
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ummmm, is that even remotely true???
i'm not doubting you, just too inexperienced to coelho it...
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theoritically, i should be it's cheerleader right now. yes, i am bummed....
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wait for the explanation as to the geographic and importation of this wine that you speak of with Brett like qualities and Gamay characteristics...
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I'm not going to name the particulars, but there are too many Oregon wineries that still think Brett imparts Old World character.
Yes, it sure does. As in the saying, if it doesn't smell like horsesh#t, it's not Burgundy. |
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sounds like bottle #5 cost you almost $40.
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No kidding. ___________________________________________________ It's good to try them young too and then let them age - James Suckling Infanticide can be very satisfying - Robert Parker I drink mine young to avoid disappointments - James Laube |
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How about taking the case back and having it switched out? That shouldn't be too much to ask...
So much wine.....so little time!!! |
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shipping, and hassle. living in ny has changed it all for me. delivery of said case to my office. then i wine mule them, 3 at a time, home.
again, the retailer said i could send them back, but then it's a real hassle, carrying them back and forth, etc. they'll take my word for how many are bad and give me credit. no big deal there. and at $7.99, i am not complaining even if they would not have. I AM COMPLAINING ABOUT CORKS.
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For the life of me I have yet to understand why cork and corkiness is still an issue. If we can put a man on the moon 40 years ago, can't we simply have a machine that analizes the cork for TCA before it plunges it into the bottle? Granted, at $7.99/btl I wouldn't expect them to be caring much, but when there are collectors paying big bucks for wine, it seems like a no brainer? So much wine.....so little time!!! |
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From a site regarding the Vega Sicilia winery in Spain:
The cork testing regime is absolutely rigorous. Their cork suppliers are instructed to send samples: these are then sent to Excel, a specialist laboratory in France, where they are tested for mechanical and chemical soundness. If the tests are successful, an order is place. Upon delivery, a further double trial is carried out, with a sample of corks being sent away for testing. When corks fail, the whole batch is rejected, at the cost of the supplier, who also foots the bill for the laboratory testing. On average, Rafael Alonso believes that two out of every three corks are rejected. I find this very interesting, particularly taking into account the vertical tasting where of 81 bottles opened, none were corked. |
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ALL of that, and I have had a corked wine from Vega Sicilia at an offline. |
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D*mn. Just no way to guaranty.I was impressed with the blog about V-S. Seems that had a TCA problem very long ago, and conpensate now, almost anally, with even palleting being all stainless steel. Interesting read (clicky). |
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How big is your chance to find a gamey gamay?
This does not mean that all wines with a drinking window of just one or two years shouldn't be bottled with screw caps. Watch carefully, it's a double negative! |
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