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I had a string of nice Oregon Pinot and low priced also. The ones I have had from 2006 have been pretty bad. Too acidic but also the fruit seems a little bit sweeter. I have only had a few, so this is just a general comment based on my limited experience, but what has your experience been with Oregon Pinot lately? With Oregon's cool climate would they add acid or would that be unnecessary? Are they maybe heading in a direction similar to CA Pinot? Maybe not exactly like CA Pinot but maybe the riper fruit part.
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spo,
I can't speak for all or any of the Oregon wine makers, but just about everyone of them I have talked to dislikes additives and adulteration. I think you are generally getting what the fruit delivers. The '06s too acidic? Do you drink Burgundies and Italian wines? I'd hardly call the '06 Oregon wines acidic. Mostly the opposite. Quite ripe and alcoholic, just the style to please California palates and critics. The only factor steering the Oregon wines towards California style is the weather. '03, '04, '06 are on the ripe side. Countering that are '05, '07, and probably '08, which should restore the Oregon reputation as neo-Burgundian. This message has been edited. Last edited by: pape du neuf, |
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Not sure which 2006's you have been drinking but 98% of the ones I have bought are pretty darn good. I have maybe 16 cases in the cellar now and a couple more to pickup in Portland next week.
The 2006's are quite approachable right now, not a bunch of tannins like 2005. The situation for 2007 however is different. Some of the lowerend Pinots are almost undrinkable. The mid-range and upper-end Pinots that I have tried are wonderful. A couple of years in the cellar will make them even better. Try to taste the 2007's before you buy or get a good review and tasting notes from someone you trust. |
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spo,
I agree with pape du neuf and am surprised about your comment of '06's being too acidic. My initial thoughts on several '06's were posted HERE. I'd be interested to know the specific wines that you are refering to -- both the ones you liked and the ones that you did not. |
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YOWZA!  My '06 Oregon Pinot purchases are significantly lower than usual: I've got 3 cases and plan to only buy one more, when it is released. I'm still buying '05's and saving my pennies for the some of the '07's. |
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When I was tasting pinot in Oregon back in August my thoughts of the 2006 vintage were that the wines were also a bit acidic, but not bad and just needed a few more months to integrate. Perhaps they seemed this way to me because I've always drunk pinot with a bit more age so perhaps they were better balanced. Overall however, I did enjoy the wines I tasted and did not find any of them sweet.
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Just to pile on, I'm surprised you're saying that about the acidity in the 2006 vintage. As requested let us know a few where you've experienced this.
As a side note...I'm currently sitting on about 3 cases of 2006 (probably will be 4-5 by the time I'm done), 5 cases of 2005, 2 cases of 2004 and then a smattering of bottles in each vintage back to 1994. Joe ----- Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. |
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Chehalem, Penner-Ash, Bergstrom, Willakenzie and a few others. They all seemed a little sharp.....but not bad at all. The Siduri 2006 Willamette Valley has been my favorite so far.
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I haven't had a bad 06 Oregon Pinot (except Erath)
I had three tiers of Gypsy Dancer and loved them all. The base level Raptor Ridge is great as well under $30. ------------------------------ "All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved." Matthew 10:22 www.winetarget.com |
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Funny you should mention that wine, as I had it in a tasting last night! I agree, very, very nice wine. I will buy more. Cheers! |
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The Cristom Mt. Jefferson last night to begin with, I will need to look back for others.
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Thanks, Spo. I saw your tasting note on the Cristom after I asked the question.
If you can get your hands on one, try the '06 Witness Tree Vintage Select Pinot. Witness Tree is located right next to Cristom. The Vintage select is definately one of the better '06's that I have tried. |
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You’re making assumptions about an entire vintage/region without even naming the wines that you basing this claim on??
 The ‘06 O vintage was excellent. And with the rains in ‘07 and now ‘08 at harvest, it will likely be the last really good vintage for a while (I hope I’m wrong). ___________________________________________________ It's good to try them young too and then let them age - James Suckling Infanticide can be very satisfying - Robert Parker I drink mine young to avoid disappointments - James Laube |
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That could be construed by some as 'intent to distribute'.  |
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I said I did not like the few I had, that I know, it is not assumed, I noted limited experience but I have seen similar traits, and then asked board members what they thought of 06. They replied with wines they thought were good examples of 06, that is all. |
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lol, i too finally had to put a title to it all. it starts with village idiot...
----------------------------- "religion ='s thought disorder" - sigmund freud |
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It is just a question, 2 Oregon Pinot from recent memory I bought myself, the McKinlay and the Cristom and 2-3 I have tried in wine shops have had sweeter almost candy like fruit and the acid has been high/bitter. I asked a question, based on the fact I have not had an 06 I liked. I did not sum up a vintage or region. Green Drazi summarized my post incorrectly and TBird, you went along with it. No ideas of your own, just like that stale rock band you play in.
 People on this forum like to blow things out of proportion. |
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Industry people are saying the 06 vintage was Oregon's best growing year in their history.
------------------------------ "All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved." Matthew 10:22 www.winetarget.com |
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awesome. the village idiot has accused me of being "stale". it doesn't get any dumber.
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I forgot about the 06 Loring from Shea. I liked that.
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Hey S,
Did you like the pinots tonight? I did maybe a little over the top, being so young. I have a RR KB to open at a later date... Maybe they are not as age worthy? Maybe your friends above can chime in to let us know their opinion...LOL...  cheers and see ya Wed.  |
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Tbird - what can you expect when you start to treat people with such little respect? So what if he has a different opinion to you? Does that justify your downright rudeness?
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Sure does, just like my mother says, boys will be boys. Well igiots will be idiots |
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Last night I had a company wine tasting and went through about 25 Oregon wines. One that was interesting to me was the Willamette Valley Vineyards 06 "Whole Cluster" Pinot Noir. This is a carbonic macerated PN. Obviously very different. Very fruity and light, similar to a Gamay. It was different.
This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dave Jankow, "Wine is considered with good reason as the most healthful and the most hygienic of all beverages." ~Louis Pasteur 1822-95 |
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