Originally posted by Sandy Fitzgerald: I enjoy the list. It gives me a chance to review the list for good QPRs wines of interest, that might be available retail, and to put them on the list to check out. Some times with their normal varietal listings my eyes start to blur over. A lot of wines listed, many with ridiculous prices or no distribution. Here, an abbreviated list easier to blow through and review.
Well said. I definitely look forward to reading the issue.
I enjoy it as well; for me there is some value with this list. I think it's a good snap shot of the year and enjoy reading about the wines that "made" it. The list is certainly not all inclusive, but an interesting read.
I would be interested to hear what wines others on this site feel are deserving of the top 10 spots, based on similar criteria WS uses for determining this list.
Posts: 957 | Location: Minneapolis | Registered: Jan 06, 2009
Originally posted by Sandy Fitzgerald: I enjoy the list. It gives me a chance to review the list for good QPRs wines of interest, that might be available retail, and to put them on the list to check out. Some times with their normal varietal listings my eyes start to blur over. A lot of wines listed, many with ridiculous prices or no distribution. Here, an abbreviated list easier to blow through and review.
Well said. I definitely look forward to reading the issue.
I enjoy it as well; for me there is some value with this list. I think it's a good snap shot of the year and enjoy reading about the wines that "made" it. The list is certainly not all inclusive, but an interesting read.
I would be interested to hear what wines others on this site feel are deserving of the top 10 spots, based on similar criteria WS uses for determining this list.
I would be surprised if the 06 Chappellet Signature wasn't on that list. 94 points, large production, around $40-$45. I would imagine top 20 ala Orin Swift's The Prisoner last year.
Good call on the Chappellet, I think so too. Another 2 sure bets are the Paraiso pinot $20 WS92 and the Colome Amalaya $15 WS91. Both have 10k+ cases production.
Anyone going to start a thread on the top 10 guessing game ?
Posts: 201 | Location: Vancouver, BC | Registered: Jun 19, 2009
91 and 92 point wines will not/should not "cut it" for making the Top 10. My picks, in no particular order, include the '07 Merry Edwards Sauv Blance 96 points at only $29 with almost 4,000 cases made; Carlisle 2007 Papa's Block Syrah 98 points at only $43 (although only 307 cases were made, so that's what will probably keep it off the list); Landmark 2006 Steel Plow Syrah 94 pts, $30, and 1,600 cases; Chappellet 2006 Signature 94 pts, $43, and over 7,000 cases; Coho 2006 Headwaters, 95 pts, $40, and 1,337 cases; Barone Ricasoli 2006 Brolio at 96 points, $54, and over 6,000 cases; Renato Ratti 2005 Marcenasco at 96 pts, only $44, and 5,000 cases; Fontodi 2006 Flaccianello at $99 pts, $110, and 5,000 cases; La Massa 2007 Primo at 97 points, $65, and 1,750 cases, and finally, the longshot Saxum 2006 Broken Stones 96 pts, only $45, but only 800 cases, hence the longshot to make the list. That's my two cents worth.
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Posts: 36 | Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL | Registered: Dec 08, 2002
Originally posted by GlennK: If you want this wine, you best get on it now before the vultures come….
Also my least favorite, but I pay attention to it because of your point above. There is usually a wine that I have been meaning to grab that ends up on the list. A lot of times it is something that hasn't sold that well and I have put it off since there wasn't a rush. It blows my mind how many people buy something just because it is on this list. Crazy. Also, my local shop gets a lot of stuff in that I wouldn't see otherwise, which is nice. No one here buys much French wine - unless it is on this list. Regardless, it is a good opportunity to grab some stuff locally without having to worry about shipping.
This year though, I wonder if the demand will be as strong due to the economy.
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Posts: 1623 | Location: NC | Registered: May 01, 2007
Originally posted by Winesteven: 91 and 92 point wines will not/should not "cut it" for making the Top 10. My picks, in no particular order, include the '07 Merry Edwards Sauv Blance 96 points at only $29 with almost 4,000 cases made; Carlisle 2007 Papa's Block Syrah 98 points at only $43 (although only 307 cases were made, so that's what will probably keep it off the list); Landmark 2006 Steel Plow Syrah 94 pts, $30, and 1,600 cases; Chappellet 2006 Signature 94 pts, $43, and over 7,000 cases; Coho 2006 Headwaters, 95 pts, $40, and 1,337 cases; Barone Ricasoli 2006 Brolio at 96 points, $54, and over 6,000 cases; Renato Ratti 2005 Marcenasco at 96 pts, only $44, and 5,000 cases; Fontodi 2006 Flaccianello at $99 pts, $110, and 5,000 cases; and finally, the La Massa 2007 Primo at 97 points, $65, and 1,750 cases. That's my two cents worth.
Sorry, I meant to say the top 100, not top10.
For Top10, you got a pretty darn good list there all figured out, except the papa's block syrah looks pretty grim, but still likely to land in top 20. I don't think there was a Top 10 that's under 1000 cases made in the last few years. Looking in the past years, there's always 1-2 that's 20k-50k cases Production, most likely from Montalcino or Rhone. And it is interesting nobody mentioned 07 Beaucastel or Clos Des Papes .
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Posts: 201 | Location: Vancouver, BC | Registered: Jun 19, 2009
Looks like I am in the minority on this one, but the top 100 is my favorite issue. It gives me a chance to reflect on the last year and to revisit some of the wines I may have overlooked. Plus it's a handy list of wines that are worthy of seeking out. Sure #1 goes up 50%-100%+ right away, but most of the rest of the list remains pretty reasonable and that's part of the fun, finding the top 100 at reasonable prices. Maybe it's the baseball card collector in me, but I really enjoy the issue and the ensuing hunt. It's a great way for my dad and I to reconnect on Thanksgiving weekend...
Prediction for #1 KATHRYN HALL -- Cabernet Sauvignon Napa Valley Kathryn Hall 2006. 96pts, $74, 3040 cases
Others I think might land in the top 10: Perennial favorites:
2006 Don Melchor 94pts, $80, 20,000 cases and 2007 Sette Ponti Toscana Oreno, 95pts, $95 3415 cases
Plus the previously mentioned
2006 Chappellet Signature
And who knows, I can very easily see this year as the year that Kosta Browne lands at #1.
I find the Top 100 an enjoyable curiosity, but I can't really say that I base any buying decisions on it. I will say, because I must admit that I find the speculation over the #1 wine to be entertaining, that the Flaccianello sure seems like a good bet to me.
IMHO 2 of the top 5 I think will be '06 Flaccianello and '06 Mondavi Reserve Cab, which I have been told will not be released until January. I am not a huge fan of the list, b/c of its subjectivity, but being in retail, customers start asking me about the wines on the list during the important holiday season.
IW
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Posts: 3574 | Location: Louisville, KY | Registered: Nov 14, 2001
Winesteven, based upon your observations you missed the obvious....Bordeaux. Where is that in your top ten.
Now if WS wants to throw a curve ball and list no bordeaux for the top ten then fantastic. Merry Edwards, they will be lucky to crack the top 20.
I forsee a fantastic Rhone for the top 10 maybe 8, 9 or 10 from the 2007 vintage. Probably a wine from Argentina breaking the top 10 or maybe from Chile. But I cannot give you specific wine names, I leave that for the pros of which neither you nor I are!
I love a good, friendly bet. Let's put some ground rules:
1) If you want to play, post your list from 1-10, including vintage and the wine. 2) Post or edit your post no later than Nov 15. 3) Scoring: Top 1 (5 pts), Top 2-5 (3 pts each), Top 6-8 (2 pts each), and Top 9-10 (1 pt each). If one of your Top 10 wines is in the WS Top 10 but not in the same order, you'll get credit for 1 pt each.
I haven't figure out how to collect the money. I guess its an honor system. Or at least for the folks who are in NYC, I can hunt them down.
Posts: 1469 | Location: New Jersey | Registered: Aug 05, 2007
Mareff - I fully agree both you and I are not pros. However, there is nothing wrong with making guesses -- try it, it can be fun! It seems though, as if you're afraid of being incorrect, and that's why you're not out here making educated guesses with the rest of us. People won't think less of you if your guesses turn out to be off the mark.
Posts: 36 | Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL | Registered: Dec 08, 2002
Originally posted by Winesteven: Mareff - I fully agree both you and I are not pros. However, there is nothing wrong with making guesses -- try it, it can be fun! It seems though, as if you're afraid of being incorrect, and that's why you're not out here making educated guesses with the rest of us. People won't think less of you if your guesses turn out to be off the mark.
WineSteven, I have no fear of being wrong, quite the opposite, I just find it amusing that people try and guess the WS top scores and come up with absurd choices like yourself. But then again people will not think less of you if you guess wrong or off the mark
Originally posted by Winesteven: Mareff - I fully agree both you and I are not pros. However, there is nothing wrong with making guesses -- try it, it can be fun! It seems though, as if you're afraid of being incorrect, and that's why you're not out here making educated guesses with the rest of us. People won't think less of you if your guesses turn out to be off the mark.
WineSteven, I have no fear of being wrong, quite the opposite, I just find it amusing that people try and guess the WS top scores and come up with absurd choices like yourself. But then again people will not think less of you if you guess wrong or off the mark
Is guessing absurd choices really so absurd, given this particular list?
Sorry, forgot the
"No TV and no beer make Homer...something, something"
Originally posted by Winesteven: Mareff - I fully agree both you and I are not pros. However, there is nothing wrong with making guesses -- try it, it can be fun! It seems though, as if you're afraid of being incorrect, and that's why you're not out here making educated guesses with the rest of us. People won't think less of you if your guesses turn out to be off the mark.
WineSteven, I have no fear of being wrong, quite the opposite, I just find it amusing that people try and guess the WS top scores and come up with absurd choices like yourself. But then again people will not think less of you if you guess wrong or off the mark
Is guessing absurd choices really so absurd, given this particular list?
Originally posted by Winesteven: Mareff - I fully agree both you and I are not pros. However, there is nothing wrong with making guesses -- try it, it can be fun! It seems though, as if you're afraid of being incorrect, and that's why you're not out here making educated guesses with the rest of us. People won't think less of you if your guesses turn out to be off the mark.
WineSteven, I have no fear of being wrong, quite the opposite, I just find it amusing that people try and guess the WS top scores and come up with absurd choices like yourself. But then again people will not think less of you if you guess wrong or off the mark
Is guessing absurd choices really so absurd, given this particular list?
Sorry, forgot the
I think so yes.
In that case, do you have any non-absurd guesses/recommendations? Not that anything is available in Toronto anyway...I think I am probably 200th on the list of backorders for Flacc.
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