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I'm converting to 100% screw cap for the 2004 vintage wines. I'd wanted to do it for years, but Jim helped push me over the edge!

The synthetics I was using worked great, but I always felt that they were a temporary solution to the whole cork/TCA issue. I've finally got my production level to a point where I need to use a mobile bottling line instead of my own, small line. The mobile guys have screw capability, so that's what I'm going to do! Thanks for the kick in the butt, Jim!! Smile


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Great news Brian!!!
 
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Well done!

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Screw caps won't solve all issues with the wine though Eek
 
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I understand wine with screw caps do not age as well as corks.


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I understand wine with screw caps do not age as well as corks.

This is still not proven....anyway there is NO way you'll want to age a Loring Pinot for the long haul. They are so delicious YOUNG! It will be interesting to follow the progress and hopefully Brian can have some good stats in 5-7 years. I applaude your efforts Brian Wink
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I understand wine with screw caps do not age as well as corks.


My experience over the last 5 years is to the contrary.


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Time will tell...have they been screwing tops on long enough to know.
What IS five years? In terms of serious bord-x? Just a ?


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does this mean i can now publicly wear my "i've been screwed by brian loring" t-shirt? Big Grin


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does this mean i can now publicly wear my "i've been screwed by brian loring" t-shirt? Big Grin
I hate to get technical here bird, but the shirt needs to say "I'm GOING to get screwed by Brian Loring" Cool

Best of luck Brian. I hope it works out for you. I must admit, there is something about those synthetic corks that bug me.


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Excellent Brian, I for one like the screwcaps.
 
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Time has told - as I've mentioned numerous times on these boards, Clare Valley rieslings were screwed back in the 70's, and current tastings of these bottlings have proven to have aged wonderfully. As for Pauly, my current experience with bottlings up to five years of age is very positive.


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Originally posted by Brian Loring:
I'm converting to 100% screw cap for the 2004 vintage wines. I'd wanted to do it for years, but Jim helped push me over the edge!


Well then...I guess I can say - BRIAN MADE ME DO IT! Thanks Warden! I too will be bottling my 2004 vintage under screw cap! Very excited!

Brian gave me the rope (to hang myself) Eek and I ran with it doing as much research and contacting all the right peeps to help us convert.

Now that Brian scheduled the mobile line...the pressure is on to have it all in place!

Gotta love embracing technology!! Smile

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Guys - looking forward to 2004!
 
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Good move fellas! We bottled our SB under "twist top" this year and will move several others to this enclosure soon. I am just as tired of corked wine as everyone else. Question though, was it difficult to find the glass you needed with out buying in outragous quantities? This has been our biggest setback and piggybacking with someone else only offered crap glass for the reds we are looking at bottling. I'm tired of the wait, wait, wait game to buy a few thousand boxes of something attractive.
 
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Fantastic! Great move. I hate cork.
 
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Originally posted by benchland:
Question though, was it difficult to find the glass you needed with out buying in outragous quantities?


benchland...actually...not at all! I was given a GREAT contact at Caliber Wine Group. Costs do vary a bit depending on quantity and type of glass (producer) used. Caliber offers Saver and St. Gobain (domestic). We got lucky...Stel bottle's are still very limited in shape, size, etc...turns out...the St. Gobain bottle we will most likely use...is basically the exact same bottle we have used in the past...'cept of course for the threads on top!

If you need more info...let me know.

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ThanX A.P! I might take you up on that one. Wink If you have any questions comments, or concerns, please shoot me an email: geoff@xwinery.com
 
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But what will you do in place of that moment of Nervous Excited Trepidation you get as you check to see if that bottle you've looked forward to is cork-tainted??
 
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This looks like as good a place as any to ask this particular stupid question:

Do screw top bottles need to be stored on their sides?



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Purple Teeth,

Great question. And no, screw capped wines needn't be stored horizontally. Storing a bottle on it's side is a convention of cork use. Corks need wine moisture in order to remain supple, thus the "laying down" of a bottle. Dried corks allow evaporation and worse, oxygen exposure during aging. According to the experts, you can store a screw capped wine upside down for years and not fret.
 
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But can you store them right-side up? The problem with upside down is twofold -- the sediment builds in the neck of the bottle (yuck), and its oh-so-hard to balance the bottle on the screw cap (though one feels a great sense of accomplishment when it actually stays standing)....

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But can you store them right-side up?

Yep!

And I got an email from Jim... he pointed out that I should be using the term "Twist Off" (as benchland does). It'll be hard though, since screw cap does lend itself to so many jokes!


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I prefer to balance my screw capped wines diagonally upside down with the neck pointing in the same direction as the Earth's axis of rotation. There's slight wobbling, but BOY do the wines look neato standing there!
 
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Originally posted by Brian Loring:
And I got an email from Jim... he pointed out that I should be using the term "Twist Off" (as benchland does). It'll be hard though, since screw cap does lend itself to so many jokes!

And "I got twisted off by Brian Loring" just doesn't have the same joie de vivre.


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