Ok guys, got a tasting coming up with some older guys who always drink the same old thing (Napa Cab). It's pretty tiring and last time I brought a Mollydooker Enchanted Path and knocked some socks off which was kind of amusing.

So, these guys seem to like the big in your face new style wines. I guess things that make Parker blush.

So, what would you recommend for the $100 range? Can be over or under $50. I was thinking something like a Clio but better?

Thanks.

Yes: Shafer Relentless.
Possibly: Orin Swift Papillon.

Glaetzer Amon-ra would fit that profile.

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Originally posted by indybob:
Possibly: Orin Swift Papillon.

I've actually found this wine to have more bright fruit and balance than the other Orin Swifts. I wonder if we've had different vintages than each other.

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Originally posted by NolanE:

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Originally posted by indybob:
Possibly: Orin Swift Papillon.

I've actually found this wine to have more bright fruit and balance than the other Orin Swifts. I wonder if we've had different vintages than each other.

yea i agree with that acutally

the mochaish type wines would definitely be what Chard rec'd like the Glaetzer wines.

I'd say they might like some Larkmeads too.

What about a big paso ?

Denner ditch digger or dirt worshipper
Never had any but Saxum seems to be a wow wine
+1 on relentless, I've had the 06,07 & 08 all fabulous
Booker, Carlisle, Valdez all make big new style wines

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Originally posted by Chard:
Glaetzer Amon-ra would fit that profile.

+1 on this. If Napa how about a Dr. Crane from Carter.

Bring a $15 bottle of 2009 Peter Lehmann Clancy's (90pts WS), hide the bottle, and then see what they think. They'll be "jammin'" with all that fruit!

Emilio Moro Malleolus de Valderramiro

Stick with Spain, wrap it up and have them taste it blind, see what happens

- Pahlmeyer Proprietary Red (right @ $100, and the epitome of a "show off" bottle. Huge, rich, extracted...and the fancy label/ & 5lb bottle to boot. Pretty good wine though, in that category.)

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If you want to suck all the moisture out of their palates, bring a 2007-2009 Lewelling Napa.

If you want to impress them bring a 2009 Rivers Marie Panek with a 8 hour decant or a 2009 Chiarello Eileen Cab with a 2 hour decant.

More curious though, why not find a group that drinks what you drink? speaking of the 'old guys' as such makes me think you are in it to just shock them and not actually join in their appreciation of wine, in this case 'big napa cabs'.
just my 2cents

Had the 2007 Jonata Poesia Pinot Noir yesterday. Tons of fruit and very rich. At around $80, would fit the bill.

So what is so "wrong" or distasteful (pun intended) for having a preference for Big Napa Cab's?? Don't we all have different taste buds, personalities, etc. such that some people (myself included) fully enjoy those wines?

I have had my share of all types of wines but I simply enjoy the mouthfeel of a bold Napa Cab. I also enjoy the powerful CdP's as well.

I get the impression from this forum that once a person "grows up" in their wine age that they shun New World and sip primarily Old World offerings...

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Originally posted by nodakgus:
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I get the impression from this forum that once a person "grows up" in their wine age that they shun New World and sip primarily Old World offerings...

I disagree. The path I typically see on this forum is a person gravitates towards balanced wines regardless of which part of the world they come from. One learns to appreciate multiple styles while still maintaining a preference.

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Originally posted by indybob:
Yes: Shafer Relentless.
Possibly: Orin Swift Papillon.

Done the Papillon, good suggestion and I like it, but need something bigger and possibly more sophisticated.

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Originally posted by welshstar:
What about a big paso ?

Denner ditch digger or dirt worshipper
Never had any but Saxum seems to be a wow wine
+1 on relentless, I've had the 06,07 & 08 all fabulous
Booker, Carlisle, Valdez all make big new style wines

Saxum definitely wows but is not easy/cheap to get a hold of.

I'm all for Paso wines.

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Originally posted by BigTex22:
Bring a $15 bottle of 2009 Peter Lehmann Clancy's (90pts WS), hide the bottle, and then see what they think. They'll be "jammin'" with all that fruit!

Definitely will do this just for fun, good idea

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Originally posted by snipes:

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Originally posted by nodakgus:
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I get the impression from this forum that once a person "grows up" in their wine age that they shun New World and sip primarily Old World offerings...

I disagree. The path I typically see on this forum is a person gravitates towards balanced wines regardless of which part of the world they come from. One learns to appreciate multiple styles while still maintaining a preference.

when they finally drink enuf they realize that port is where it's at!

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Originally posted by winetarelli:
Emilio Moro Malleolus de Valderramiro

There we go! This is what I'm looking for. Thank you.

Any others?

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Originally posted by Shane T.:
- Pahlmeyer Proprietary Red (right @ $100, and the epitome of a "show off" bottle. Huge, rich, extracted...and the fancy label/ & 5lb bottle to boot. Pretty good wine though, in that category.)

Already in the tasting, I want to avoid Napa though.

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Originally posted by hare:
Had the 2007 Jonata Poesia Pinot Noir yesterday. Tons of fruit and very rich. At around $80, would fit the bill.

No pinots although I appreciate this suggestion for myself

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Originally posted by mareff:
Stick with Spain, wrap it up and have them taste it blind, see what happens

Something like a Flor de Pingus?

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Originally posted by mike p:
If you want to suck all the moisture out of their palates, bring a 2007-2009 Lewelling Napa.

If you want to impress them bring a 2009 Rivers Marie Panek with a 8 hour decant or a 2009 Chiarello Eileen Cab with a 2 hour decant.

More curious though, why not find a group that drinks what you drink? speaking of the 'old guys' as such makes me think you are in it to just shock them and not actually join in their appreciation of wine, in this case 'big napa cabs'.
just my 2cents

Honestly, these are friends of my fathers. They drink more to get drunk while I drink to appreciate the wine. My wine knowledge / taste just doesn't seem to be completely compatible with them.

They just know Napa cab, that's it. I try to get them to branch out but it's difficult. I succeeded somewhat with the Mollydooker.

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Originally posted by nodakgus:
So what is so "wrong" or distasteful (pun intended) for having a preference for Big Napa Cab's?? Don't we all have different taste buds, personalities, etc. such that some people (myself included) fully enjoy those wines?

I have had my share of all types of wines but I simply enjoy the mouthfeel of a bold Napa Cab. I also enjoy the powerful CdP's as well.

I get the impression from this forum that once a person "grows up" in their wine age that they shun New World and sip primarily Old World offerings...

I think you may be getting me wrong as Napa Cab is predominantly what is in my cellar. Good Napa Cab mind you.

The thing is, these tasting are boring. How many times do you want to drink a Silver Oak Napa or Pahlmeyer? How many times do you need to drink a Chateau Montelena Estate or Caymus SS?

Isn't part of tasting broadening your horizons? So I know they will have the same old stuff and I will bring something different to the table rather than more of the same.

I do believe Cab is king but part of appreciating wine is appreciating the variety of wine out there.